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[Capang]

I know there has been a lot of discussion on concerns of people fitting on FoP so thought I would share a link to a story that @WebmasterJackie wrote. She was very honest and candid and unfortunately was not able to ride. The concerning part to me is that she said 7 people of the theaters on her side (so out of 32 people) were unable to ride:

The Scoop on Flight of Passage for Guests Who Are of a Certain Size

If this is close to the norm, and nearly 1/4 of the people will have trouble riding I really need to take back my previous thoughts and now feel this is a big issue and I expect better from Disney

Maybe this was an outlier group but I do think Disney needs to think of some way to address this / have some alternative for people that don't fit in the standard seat

That is a super high percentage and not at all the norm at Disney. Would placing a test seat even help? I wonder if the test seat would have the restraints like the actual ride. In my experience test seats usually have seat belts to fasten not bars or other types of restraints.

 

[CinderDuffy]

I know there has been a lot of discussion on concerns of people fitting on FoP so thought I would share a link to a story that @WebmasterJackie wrote. She was very honest and candid and unfortunately was not able to ride. The concerning part to me is that she said 7 people of the theaters on her side (so out of 32 people) were unable to ride:

The Scoop on Flight of Passage for Guests Who Are of a Certain Size

If this is close to the norm, and nearly 1/4 of the people will have trouble riding I really need to take back my previous thoughts and now feel this is a big issue and I expect better from Disney

Maybe this was an outlier group but I do think Disney needs to think of some way to address this / have some alternative for people that don't fit in the standard seat

Tangent: I don't get the need for all the euphemisms.

"Of a certain size"
"Pooh-sized"
"Fluffy"
"Larger"

Why can't we just say "fat"

That said, with 7DMT and this situation, I am getting the feeling that there must be a particular reason this occurs (additional cost? would have to sacrifice some of the tech?) and Disney is thus far unwilling or unable to work around it.

 

[Capang]

Tangent: I don't get the need for all the euphemisms.

"Of a certain size"
"Pooh-sized"
"Fluffy"
"Larger"

Why can't we just say "fat"

That said, with 7DMT and this situation, I am getting the feeling that there must be a particular reason this occurs (additional cost? would have to sacrifice some of the tech?) and Disney is thus far unwilling or unable to work around it.

7dmt had a lot of worry for folks in the beginning but most fit, albeit uncomfortably, but most safely fit. This seems to be a different situation in that's lots of folks of all body types are not fitting for various reasons. These are restraints that are unlike anything WDW has used before so maybe this was not exactly predicted to happen the way it has.

 

[wilkeliza]

I know there has been a lot of discussion on concerns of people fitting on FoP so thought I would share a link to a story that @WebmasterJackie wrote. She was very honest and candid and unfortunately was not able to ride. The concerning part to me is that she said 7 people of the theaters on her side (so out of 32 people) were unable to ride:

The Scoop on Flight of Passage for Guests Who Are of a Certain Size

If this is close to the norm, and nearly 1/4 of the people will have trouble riding I really need to take back my previous thoughts and now feel this is a big issue and I expect better from Disney

Maybe this was an outlier group but I do think Disney needs to think of some way to address this / have some alternative for people that don't fit in the standard seat

In our group of 16 nobody got turned away including a woman who was big and using an ecv. So it may just be jackie got a large percentage but it isn't the real percentage information Disney has.

 

[rteetz]

I know there has been a lot of discussion on concerns of people fitting on FoP so thought I would share a link to a story that @WebmasterJackie wrote. She was very honest and candid and unfortunately was not able to ride. The concerning part to me is that she said 7 people of the theaters on her side (so out of 32 people) were unable to ride:

The Scoop on Flight of Passage for Guests Who Are of a Certain Size

If this is close to the norm, and nearly 1/4 of the people will have trouble riding I really need to take back my previous thoughts and now feel this is a big issue and I expect better from Disney

Maybe this was an outlier group but I do think Disney needs to think of some way to address this / have some alternative for people that don't fit in the standard seat

I'm still playing wait and see. To me this doesn't seem right. This article is the first where we hear that this is a big issue. It's also interesting how then people like John BigFatPanda and Banks Lee were able to get on.

 

[rteetz]

In our group of 16 nobody got turned away including a woman who was big and using an ecv. So it may just be jackie got a large percentage but it isn't the real percentage information Disney has.

That's what I'm thinking.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

That is a super high percentage and not at all the norm at Disney. Would placing a test seat even help? I wonder if the test seat would have the restraints like the actual ride. In my experience test seats usually have seat belts to fasten not bars or other types of restraints.

I was the makings bout that for the test seat that it seems to be the latching part that is the challenge so just having the seat along isn't sufficient - you would almost need a CM or two there trying to latch people and showing them how to position themselves and stuff

 

[rteetz]

Tangent: I don't get the need for all the euphemisms.

"Of a certain size"
"Pooh-sized"
"Fluffy"
"Larger"

Why can't we just say "fat"

That said, with 7DMT and this situation, I am getting the feeling that there must be a particular reason this occurs (additional cost? would have to sacrifice some of the tech?) and Disney is thus far unwilling or unable to work around it.

Some feel offense to being called fat. I can understand all the names being a bit silly but it's better to be respectful of the situation.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

In our group of 16 nobody got turned away including a woman who was big and using an ecv. So it may just be jackie got a large percentage but it isn't the real percentage information Disney has.

That's what I'm thinking.

Yeah, I did caveat my comment that it could just have been an outlier group but still potentially worrisome - and if this is even the perception (if not the reality) that isn't good either

 

[MotherKnowsBest]

Random question, did you enter the Park with other guests or was there a separate queue for the DVC preview?

Sorry, I just got home so I just saw this. There was an EMH (which I didn't realize) so we just entered at around 8:30.

 

[ethanwa]

I went on Flight of Passage today and there were people big and small. All 16 people were able to ride. Let's not get too worried yet please.

 

[Linkura]

They really need to have a test seat installed ASAP or there is going to be a riot when people wait in line for 4 hours for this and then find out they can't ride.

 

[ArielRae]

Personally I didn't want those on the first page because the ride specifically states no video to be taken. So this is technically against Disney policy. I'd also appreciate if @ArielRae could put those videos in a spoiler tag as many who are going don't want to see them.

This why I created my own thread for the videos in the first place with a warning "Beware Spoilers Inside" for the thread title. Some people do want to see these videos while others don't but @yulilin3 wanted it added to your thread.

 

[wilkeliza]

They really need to have a test seat installed ASAP or there is going to be a riot when people wait in line for 4 hours for this and then find out they can't ride.

It is suppose to be in by opening day.

 

[yulilin3]

This why I created my own thread for the videos with a warning "Beware Spoilers Inside" for the thread title. @yullin3 wanted it added to your thread.

Trying to keep most Pandora info on one thread, like I said one of the videos was already posted here.

 

[ArielRae]

Trying to keep most Pandora info on one thread, like I said one of the videos was already posted here.

So is it possible to restore my original thread? @yulilin3

 

[Linkura]

It is suppose to be in by opening day.

Thanks, really hope this is true. I personally probably won't have an issue, but it would be heartbreaking to see people wait for so long and not be able to ride.

 

[HopperFan]

I do not understand why people say Disney made the queue line 6 hours but they would inticipate the line to be 60 to 190 minutes long. I believe Disney made the queue line 6hours long because they intimidate at least that. Actually the cast members told me they are already set up for lines of 2 and 3 hours beyond the 6 hour queue line. I believe that it will happen.

I remember when Indiana Jones opened in Disneyland, the 4 and longer hour line for the ride. I remember a few years ago the 6 hour line at Epcot for frozen caractors. This ride is better than any E ride attraction I have ever been on at any theme park. I do believe that it will be a 6 hour or longer queue for at least the first year or more, probably until they get Star Wars and toy story up and running and then maybe it will be a two hour queue.

Soaring 17 years later is still never under 60 minutes at either park, I have seen them up to 120 or more. Especially at Disneyland. Test track is never under 60 minutes, always above 90 when I go anytime after am. FoP is twice the excitement of them, and in a park with so few rides, and rides who usually don't make it over 60 minutes, I could be wrong but I have never even seen rapids, EE or the safari above 45 minutes. My expectation, is I will not get another chance to ride this ride without a miracle for at least the next two years. This year I spent 31 days in the park, and that is my expectation for the next two years. Of course there are many that will stand in a line for that long, I will not. So I don't plan on seeing the ride again for quite some time.

I hope I'm wrong, but I think Disney knows for a fact this ride will be a 6 hour queue for years to come.

8-9 hours to wait for a few minute ride. NO ride is that good. Honestly I can't think of anything I'd wait that long for other than a boatload of cash.

Soarin' is often shorter now with the third theater. I just looked and it's 35 minutes.

I know there has been a lot of discussion on concerns of people fitting on FoP so thought I would share a link to a story that @WebmasterJackie wrote. She was very honest and candid and unfortunately was not able to ride. The concerning part to me is that she said 7 people of the theaters on her side (so out of 32 people) were unable to ride:

The Scoop on Flight of Passage for Guests Who Are of a Certain Size

If this is close to the norm, and nearly 1/4 of the people will have trouble riding I really need to take back my previous thoughts and now feel this is a big issue and I expect better from Disney

Maybe this was an outlier group but I do think Disney needs to think of some way to address this / have some alternative for people that don't fit in the standard seat

That is a super high percentage and not at all the norm at Disney. Would placing a test seat even help? I wonder if the test seat would have the restraints like the actual ride. In my experience test seats usually have seat belts to fasten not bars or other types of restraints.

There are 8 seats on 3 floors so that is 24. If 7 couldn't ride that is 29%. Again others groups will have no issues but I still think it's looking like a bigger problem than any other ride at Disney. I saw a few comments today on twitter of folks who could not ride at the previews.

Placing a test seat will help you know before you wait in line you don't fit but it doesn't solve the issue that Disney has designed an attraction that leaves out a higher number of guests than they normally do.

 

[rteetz]

This why I created my own thread for the videos in the first place with a warning "Beware Spoilers Inside" for the thread title. Some people do want to see these videos while others don't but @yulilin3 wanted it added to your thread.

And I'm fine with that but if you could put them in the spoiler tag that's great. We shouldn't have 30 Pandora threads as it is.

 

[rteetz]

This why I created my own thread for the videos in the first place with a warning "Beware Spoilers Inside" for the thread title. Some people do want to see these videos while others don't but @yulilin3 wanted it added to your thread.

And I'm fine with that but if you could put them in the spoiler tag that's great. We shouldn't have 30 Pandora threads as it is.