The Running Thread - 2018

I have a mystery with my insoles. Hoping someone here might have some ideas about it.

For about 5 years, I've gotten custom insoles from a local running store. I have high arches, a high instep, and wide feet. About a month ago, I needed a new pair of custom insoles. The new ones were from the same store, the same type, the same size as the ones I had been wearing. I put them in my running shoes (not new shoes) and did two runs in them two days in a row totaling over 15 miles.

The next day when I put on my shoes (with the new insoles) for a run, the insoles felt wrong. It felt like the arches were in the wrong place. I hadn't taken the insoles out since the previous two runs. When they felt wrong, I took them in and out a few times to make sure they were properly seated. They still felt wrong. I convinced myself it was all in my head. I ran an easy 5 miles. The next day, the arches of my feet felt all bruised up, like I'd worn insoles with the arches in the wrong place, or maybe arches that were too high!

The next run, I went back to the old insoles. Then I tried the new ones again on the run after that. They still felt wrong. This was just a couple of weeks before my Ragnar, so I didn't want to beat up my feet too much. I stuck with the old insoles through Ragnar.

After Ragnar, I got some new running shoes. I'd had a week off from running. I put the new insoles in the new shoes and ran 4.5 easy miles. The insoles felt fine. No problems afterward.

That was yesterday. Tonight I put on the same new shoes and the new insoles and the insoles felt wrong. Again, I took them in and out a bunch. I sort of convinced myself that they felt "better" after doing this and ran 4 miles. But now several hours after, I can tell my feet feel bruised again.

I can't figure out what is going on. Why do the insoles feel OK sometimes and not others? I have never had this happen, despite using the same type of insoles for years. They are moderately expensive, so I don't want to just chuck them. Also, if I got a another new pair, how do I know the same thing won't happen?

Any ideas?
 


I just wanted to add that my body feels more like I ran a marathon yesterday than a 10 miler. Its a little sad. I am a little surprised by just how sore I am, like walking down stairs is uncomfortable today. I hope tomorrows run helps loosen things up.

Yeah those stairs are still kicking my butt today but I am feeling a lot better and I think a good night of sleep tonight will make me feel great. Not great enough to run tomorrow.

I don’t have a great recovery plan but after throwing out all I could at Chicago, I am taking the week off from running and diet. I will regret the diet part later but am enjoying my celebration right now :)
 
QOTD: Post race recovery, what do you do to recover? How soon before you get your next run in?
Immediately post race I love chocolate milk (it was my drink of choice as a kid!) and a small snack (once a local race had those peanut butter and cheese crackers...they really hit the spot!) After arriving home it's time for a hot shower and lunch. I don't know what it is about racing, but they are commonly followed by an unplanned afternoon nap on the couch.

The days ahead are usually filled with a lot of yoga. I used to take the week off running and start up again the following weekend. But, since switching to a Hal Higdon plan I have started running again on Tuesday. However, those first weekday runs start much slower than usual.

I liked @Dis5150 's recent recommendation for an Epsom salt bath. I never takes baths at home, but a hot bath and glass of wine might be really nice post WDW marathon...
 


It's funny. I always tell people running a marathon will change your life and people never believe me, until they do it. But it really does and based on your post I am thinking you would agree. Great job!
It really does change your perspective on things. I saw a lady’s headband before the race and it had a saying on it that said “redefine your possible.” Those simple words stuck with me the whole time out there. I never thought doing this was possible, but I put my mind to it and made it happen. It really makes me confident that I can set other goals and make them happen too.

I don’t know if another marathon is in my future, I much prefer halfs, but I’m pretty sure my next goal will be a strong half marathon PR. If it hadn’t been for knowing I still had a whole second half to go, I would have easily set a half marathon PR in the first half yesterday.
 
ATTQOTD: Post-race recovery involves walking a while, drinking and eating as much as I can handle from the provided snacks and stretch. My next step is getting into dry clothes.
I then try to consume a full meal in the two hours after but have seldom succeeded, shower usually comes before! If I have access to a pool, I like to take a quiet swim or just float, it acts as cooling and compression. Then, party, eat as I please on the day of the event. For a half-marathon, I do not run for a full week even if I feel good and miss it. Forced recuperation both physical and mental worked wonders so far.
 
QOTD: Post race recovery, what do you do to recover? How soon before you get your next run in?

ATTQOTD: In a perfect world I get a chocolate milk and stretch. This weekend was not that, I had a water, a coke, got in my buddys car, and cramped up. Luckily it was only for a few minutes. I give myself a day of rest for anything less than a marathon. After a marathon it's 2-3 days of no running.

I'm struggling with this now. My 1/2 was 9 days ago. I am still not recovered. I took two days off and ran on Wednesday last week. I got one mile in and realized I wasn't ready to run yet. My legs were heavy and sore. I pushed through to 4 miles. I ran over the weekend too and Saturday's run went well. Sunday's, not so much. So, I have decided not to worry about my 100 mile goal for the month. I'm going to take it easier than last month until my legs feel good again and then get back to normal. I am doing a 1/2 in February so I have plenty of time to get my training in order and try for the under 2:00 goal.

Nope. Not true. They have had promotions a few times where you could buy a one day ticket at a discount for guests, but it was for specific days and could only be purchased that day in person.
Excellent, thanks.

Ugh, I’m sorry. I’m leaving Orlando for Louisiana in the morning, so hopefully I will make it through the panhandle before it gets too bad. It’s already raining here in Orlando from the outer bands, so I’m really not looking forward to the drive.

Stay safe!



Because Houston is a Hellscape Cesspool that I wouldn’t even wish upon my worst enemy.
It can't be worse than Boston.

It really does change your perspective on things. I saw a lady’s headband before the race and it had a saying on it that said “redefine your possible.” Those simple words stuck with me the whole time out there. I never thought doing this was possible, but I put my mind to it and made it happen. It really makes me confident that I can set other goals and make them happen too.

I don’t know if another marathon is in my future, I much prefer halfs, but I’m pretty sure my next goal will be a strong half marathon PR. If it hadn’t been for knowing I still had a whole second half to go, I would have easily set a half marathon PR in the first half yesterday.

That's exactly the reason it changed my life too. I spent most of my life living in fear and doubting myself. I never pushed myself hard for anything because I was always afraid to fail. Running was all about getting out of my comfort zone and it did. Then the Marathon came and I refused to quit and finishing that race, and seeing what I could accomplish if I set my mind to it was game changing. I'll do a couple more marathons for sure but I am with you, I'll stick mostly with 1/2's. But congrats again, you did it!
 
I have a mystery with my insoles. Hoping someone here might have some ideas about it.

For about 5 years, I've gotten custom insoles from a local running store. I have high arches, a high instep, and wide feet. About a month ago, I needed a new pair of custom insoles. The new ones were from the same store, the same type, the same size as the ones I had been wearing. I put them in my running shoes (not new shoes) and did two runs in them two days in a row totaling over 15 miles.

The next day when I put on my shoes (with the new insoles) for a run, the insoles felt wrong. It felt like the arches were in the wrong place. I hadn't taken the insoles out since the previous two runs. When they felt wrong, I took them in and out a few times to make sure they were properly seated. They still felt wrong. I convinced myself it was all in my head. I ran an easy 5 miles. The next day, the arches of my feet felt all bruised up, like I'd worn insoles with the arches in the wrong place, or maybe arches that were too high!

The next run, I went back to the old insoles. Then I tried the new ones again on the run after that. They still felt wrong. This was just a couple of weeks before my Ragnar, so I didn't want to beat up my feet too much. I stuck with the old insoles through Ragnar.

After Ragnar, I got some new running shoes. I'd had a week off from running. I put the new insoles in the new shoes and ran 4.5 easy miles. The insoles felt fine. No problems afterward.

That was yesterday. Tonight I put on the same new shoes and the new insoles and the insoles felt wrong. Again, I took them in and out a bunch. I sort of convinced myself that they felt "better" after doing this and ran 4 miles. But now several hours after, I can tell my feet feel bruised again.

I can't figure out what is going on. Why do the insoles feel OK sometimes and not others? I have never had this happen, despite using the same type of insoles for years. They are moderately expensive, so I don't want to just chuck them. Also, if I got a another new pair, how do I know the same thing won't happen?

Any ideas?

Glad I am not the only one with this problem, though mine is with insoles for regular shoes bought from a specific store. Beyond the guess that the insoles have been reshaped by the manufacture, I have no words of wisdom.
 
ATTQOTD

Race Recovery: A banana and chocolate milk right away followed by a nap then chicken noodle soup. Sometimes if I'm really sore I'll take an ice/salt bath before my nap too. As for running again... I've tried different things and haven't quite landed on a good way of determining that yet.
 
the weather is the key. i've mentioned before i'm planning on a climate "boost" after training all summer in north texas. the current high temperatures out there are cooler than the low temps i'm contending with here. but i'd really love for it to get down to the 50s with no rain on raceday.
Looks like we may have Chamber of Commerce race conditions for you and the Hartford marathon. Dry conditions, race start temps in the mid to upper 40s and only reaching the low 50's on Saturday. Light NW winds. Safe travels and good luck!
 
ATTQOTD: I am still learning on this, but am going to try to chocolate milk idea that I have seen here.

Leaving for Orlando saturday morning, hurricane supposed tp pass too close to my house wed night/thursday morning (Will be far weaker than at landfall, but still strong TS/minimal hurricane). Here is hoping I don't take a tree into my house.
 
Not seeing many mentions of an ice baths? Do people really use them? I have once or twice - not sure how much of an impact it made.
I tried it: hated it and felt no different than I did just taking a regular shower. In the heat of FL summer, I often jump in my pool after a run to bring down my core temp - but my pool temp is around 90, so nothing like an ice bath! After cold long runs, I like a hot bath.

I can't figure out what is going on. Why do the insoles feel OK sometimes and not others? I have never had this happen, despite using the same type of insoles for years. They are moderately expensive, so I don't want to just chuck them. Also, if I got a another new pair, how do I know the same thing won't happen?

Any ideas?
All the times you've tried the new insoles - have they been at the same time of day, or varying times? And were you wearing the same shoes (or lack of shoes) immediately beforehand, or different shoes at different times? I ask because, while I don't use insoles beyond the sockliners that come with them, my running shoes can feel markedly different depending on what I had on my feet before putting them on. Barefoot first thing in the morning, for instance, vs. after wearing Birkenstocks all day before an evening run. Obviously, my running shoes don't change from day to day or hour to hour, but how they feel does, depending on what my feet were used to in the hours before. Could it be something like that?
 

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