Peloton Ad

[RamblingMad]

A few cities around here have required paper straws and they almost immediately turn to mush. I've used paper straws in other countries, they were typically waxed so they didn't just fall apart.

For some reason I've seen ads for a company selling a collapsible metal straw called "Final Straw". Seems like overkill, where it comes in a case along with a cleaning brush like the ones I used to clean baby bottles. Also comes in a variety of anodized colors.

There are other makers of reusable metal straws.

The reason they no longer make metal canteens for water is that they eventually rust inside. I don’t want to drink out of a possibly rusty straw.

We do need a plastic alternative. It’s gotten into our food supply. You can’t trust sea salt anymore. And fish are eating it.

 

[mrodgers]

The reason they no longer make metal canteens for water is that they eventually rust inside. I don’t want to drink out of a possibly rusty straw.

We do need a plastic alternative. It’s gotten into our food supply. You can’t trust sea salt anymore. And fish are eating it.

City people don't use metal canteens. They are very much produced and used by outdoors people all over. Camping, bushcraft, survival, metal canteens are very commonplace in the list of gear.

 

[bcla]

The reason they no longer make metal canteens for water is that they eventually rust inside. I don’t want to drink out of a possibly rusty straw.

We do need a plastic alternative. It’s gotten into our food supply. You can’t trust sea salt anymore. And fish are eating it.

Depends on who. Sign makes aluminum bottles with a plastic liner. While aluminum has certain anticorrosion properties, that's really best for direct contact with air and not submersion in water. Final Straw says they use elastic silicone inside the metal to allow it to collapse and expand.

But there are plenty of unlined stainless steel bottles like from Kleen Kanteen. They also have straws now. Titanium has similar properties.

 

[RamblingMad]

City people don't use metal canteens. They are very much produced and used by outdoors people all over. Camping, bushcraft, survival, metal canteens are very commonplace in the list of gear.

I spend most of my vacation time outdoors, and I haven’t used a metal canteen since the 80s. They’re not healthy. All metal eventually rusts.

They’re also really heavy. My go to is 1L Smart Water bottles. They’re light and come with water when you buy them.

 

[CamilaGS]

I said nothing about individuals being shamed, I asked why people have an issue with a person maintaining a healthy weight and lifestyle (or something to that effect).
We will just have to agree to disagree, I think the backlash and the cries of sexism this ad has received plus all the "other scenerios" people think the company should have used shows pretty clearly that they have an issue with it, specifically when it's a thin, presumably already fit woman. They can't accept that the woman just wants the bike and wants to use it, if they could there would be no backlash over it. It would just be a commercial that only the people interested in Peloton would pay attention to.

Again, people have no trouble with that. Come on.
The backlash doesn´t come from the woman wanting to get fit. The backlash comes from a perceived idea that the woman was being forced by her husband to get fit - 2 VERY different things. And I agree that watching the ad, you don´t necessarily see that. I didn´t see that, but I see why some people may see it that way.

I think people failing to understand the backlash (understand, not agree to it) are people that have never been in that situation: being shamed by someone you care about for your weight. And I can tell you that happens even to thin and fit women. And not only by someone you care about: it happens in the workplace, in the showbiz - even models get shamed for being "overweight" if they don´t fit a certain aesthetic the fashion industry wants.
In fact, it kinda happened in this very thread, when someone said the Peloton ad girl was a " little heavy" in the Ryan Reynolds ad (if that girl is heavy, by God, I weight as much as the moon lol).

I agree that in a normal setting, there´s nothing wrong with a woman wanting to get fit, nothing wrong with a husband buying a bike for her for Xmas, nothing wrong with documenting her journey from not-so-fit to fit and showing her husband. But that is not a normal setting. That´s an ad and that kinda stuff sets patterns. The marketing industry - well, all of showbiz, really - creates opinions, mindsets, world views. There´s not such thing as an innocent ad. It instills thoughts and views in people. That´s why people talk about representation and visibility.

Do I think all this backlash is deserved? Perhaps not. Perhaps a lot of people also jumped to the idea of mocking something - that´s what meme culture does. I agree with people that say "I don´t see that", because I don´t see that either. But I think it´s wrong to antagonize people that are trying to create a discussion with "these people have too much time on their hands" or other stuff.

 

[mrodgers]

I spend most of my vacation time outdoors, and I haven’t used a metal canteen since the 80s. They’re not healthy. All metal eventually rusts.

They’re also really heavy. My go to is 1L Smart Water bottles. They’re light and come with water when you buy them.

Well, the metals used for canteens for hiking, camping, and bushcraft have come a long way from using carbon steel that rusts. Stainless and titanium is what they use these days.

I'd much rather drink from a metal canteen than a plastic bottle.

 

[RamblingMad]

Well, the metals used for canteens for hiking, camping, and bushcraft have come a long way from using carbon steel that rusts. Stainless and titanium is what they use these days.

I'd much rather drink from a metal canteen than a plastic bottle.

They still rust. It just takes longer.

I’m using smart water bottles for my water storage. No guarantee that they’re BPA free. But they weigh less than metal alternatives.

For cooking I use titanium, and I monitor for rust too. But I can see the inside of the pot. I can’t see the inside of a metal canteen.

 

[VandVsmama]

So, in summary:

• plastic straws are evil
• metal straws are bad, too
• giving anybody you're in a relationship with an exercise bike means that you're body shaming and a horrible bigoted person
• if you like plastic straws or metal straws, there's something wrong with you.
• if you'd like receiving a Peloton from a significant other, there's something wrong with you.
• if you're not offended by any of this stuff, you're not woke enough.
• if you didn't know before this thread what a Peloton is, then you've been living under a rock like I have and apparently haven't been on the Internets in years.
• the ad achieved what the company probably set out to achieve: brand name recognition. Y'all remember the Aflack duck commercials? Super annoying ads, but everybody remembers that name.

All of the above is purposely posted in jest, so if you are upset by what I said, it was not directed at you personally.

 

[Park Pirate]

Losing weight comes from burning more calories than you take in. For a whole bunch of us, that is going to mean adding activity of some sort.

Multiple times in my life I have become very overweight (unfortunately, like now), but have been able to lose 50+ lbs to get back to an average weight for my height. I am certainly no expert, but have used the equation in the quote above to lose weight. I agree that just eating less than your daily required calorie intake while maintaining the same activity level or, exercising more while eating the same, will take a lot of time to see results. I think it requires something like 3500 calories less than your required intake to lose a pound of fat. Exercising alone only burns a few hundred calories per hour (depending upon the level of activity/effort and your weight). Building muscle increases your metabolism and required intake. Doing all three is the obviously the best approach.

However, I have found that when I exercise, I naturally eat much less and better. I think this is a psychological response of my body telling me that it would be stupid to waste the exercise. My problem has always been maintaining - I will stop exercising (due to a heavy work period or something like that) and then the eating discipline goes out the window. I seem to be good at losing the weight, but maintaining the loss has always been a struggle for me. Perhaps something like a group activity (which I generally do not gravitate towards) does help maintain the healthy attitude. This is where I think the Peloton idea might be helpful, but there are probably cheaper ways to be in an exercise group!

I do realize that there is more to being healthy than just losing or maintaining a suitable weight.

 

[RamblingMad]

Park,

My maintenance is my friends keeping me in good shape. I’ve never been overweight. One of my friends wants to me to do a local hike that’s 8 miles in and out, but it has 3000 feet of elevation gain.

Now, I’m frustrated that I’m not in good enough shape to do it. So I need to come up with a plan. I might do half of this weekend to see what I can do. And I might do some more cardio. But I’ll get it done. It’s the elevation gain that’s going to kick my butt.

It helps having people around you that’ll keep you on your toes.

 

[CamilaGS]

Multiple times in my life I have become very overweight (unfortunately, like now), but have been able to lose 50+ lbs to get back to an average weight for my height. I am certainly no expert, but have used the equation in the quote above to lose weight. I agree that just eating less than your daily required calorie intake while maintaining the same activity level or, exercising more while eating the same, will take a lot of time to see results. I think it requires something like 3500 calories less than your required intake to lose a pound of fat. Exercising alone only burns a few hundred calories per hour (depending upon the level of activity/effort and your weight). Building muscle increases your metabolism and required intake. Doing all three is the obviously the best approach.

However, I have found that when I exercise, I naturally eat much less and better. I think this is a psychological response of my body telling me that it would be stupid to waste the exercise. My problem has always been maintaining - I will stop exercising (due to a heavy work period or something like that) and then the eating discipline goes out the window. I seem to be good at losing the weight, but maintaining the loss has always been a struggle for me. Perhaps something like a group activity (which I generally do not gravitate towards) does help maintain the healthy attitude. This is where I think the Peloton idea might be helpful, but there are probably cheaper ways to be in an exercise group!

I do realize that there is more to being healthy than just losing or maintaining a suitable weight.

I feel you, I’m the same way. I managed to lose a lot of weight for my wedding, but I gained it all back a lot faster (it doesn’t help that I decided to study again besides work, leaving me with a heavy schedule). Also, I gain weight quite easily and I have a bad relationship with exercise and sports in general - I can start many activities, but can’t keep doing them, can’t motivate myself to do them and I feel no pleasure in it.

Now me and my wife are trying to exercise at home - we got a bike, a lot cheaper than peloton lol Staying home and doing it while I read or watch someone on youtube and Netflix is helping.

 

[mrodgers]

Park,

My maintenance is my friends keeping me in good shape. I’ve never been overweight. One of my friends wants to me to do a local hike that’s 8 miles in and out, but it has 3000 feet of elevation gain.

Now, I’m frustrated that I’m not in good enough shape to do it. So I need to come up with a plan. I might do half of this weekend to see what I can do. And I might do some more cardio. But I’ll get it done. It’s the elevation gain that’s going to kick my butt.

It helps having people around you that’ll keep you on your toes.

I'm a bicyclist in western PA, I can't ride my bike on flat except for on trails as there is no flat on the roads. 800 feet in 8 miles on a bicycle is extreme (and a daily ride for me) so that 3000 in 8 miles sounds like pure torture to me, LOL.

 

[RamblingMad]

I'm a bicyclist in western PA, I can't ride my bike on flat except for on trails as there is no flat on the roads. 800 feet in 8 miles on a bicycle is extreme (and a daily ride for me) so that 3000 in 8 miles sounds like pure torture to me, LOL.

It’s in and out. So it’s 3000 ft in 4 miles.

 

[mrodgers]

It’s in and out. So it’s 3000 ft in 4 miles.

Yup, I should have figured that out. I ride downhill from my place for 4.5 miles and circle around on a different road to climb my 800 feet back home.

I have the North Country Trail around a mile from my place. I want to start hiking myself. Have hiked a few miles from the lake and it's got some nice climbing, not 3000 in 4 miles though.

And as I said, there's another burger place I frequent when we ride the Allegheny River. No, I can't eat all these, even on a bike ride. They are all organic, grass fed beef, etc, and that shown was $6.15 in the summer.

 

[Imzadi]

Hopefully for the last time, then we can put this topic to rest:

The Peloton wife SPEAKS! Her first (and hopefully last on this topic) interview with Hoda Kotb on the Today Show:

 

[CamilaGS]

Hopefully for the last time, then we can put this topic to rest:

The Peloton wife SPEAKS! Her first (and hopefully last on this topic) interview with Hoda Kotb on the Today Show:

I didnt watch the interview and I don´t want to further the discussion, I just came to comment that I find it funny people went after the actors to discuss the ad. They didnt create it! They just got hired, showed up and said their lines. They have absolutely no say in how the ad was developed and what was the company´s vision or the ad makers´ vision on the issue. Maybe she can talk about how her acting choice made some people see it as if the woman in the ad was being held hostage or something (kinda hilarious tbh), but that as far as she can go. She was not involved in the decision making concerning how the ad came to exist.

 

[Imzadi]

Maybe she can talk about how her acting choice made some people see it as if the woman in the ad was being held hostage or something (kinda hilarious tbh), but that as far as she can go.

If you had watched the interview, that is precisely what she had done. She said she thinks it was her FACE that made everyone have the reactions about what she did. Her eyebrows get wonky, and it made her look overly-worried and scared. (Like she was being held hostage.) She said it in a joking way. She also said she hopes people will get beyond this and see, her as an actress, that she can and has done other work. That she won't only be thought of as the "Peloton wife."

Then they brought out Ryan Reynolds, whom she hadn't met before that moment, even though she filmed his gin commercial. He said the concept came up as a friend texted him the link to the Peloton commercial. He thought it was funny and also had sympathy for the actress, and joked that he'd love to just send that actress a case of gin to help her get through all the social media harassment. That's when the spark of the commercial came up.

 

[CamilaGS]

If you had watched the interview, that is precisely what she had done. She said she thinks it was her FACE that made everyone have the reactions about what she did. Her eyebrows get wonky, and it made her look overly-worried and scared. (Like she was being held hostage.) She said it in a joking way. She also said she hopes people will get beyond this and see, her as an actress, that she can and has done other work. That she won't only be thought of as the "Peloton wife."

Then they brought out Ryan Reynolds, whom she hadn't met before that moment, even though she filmed his gin commercial. He said the concept came up as a friend texted him the link to the Peloton commercial. He thought it was funny and also had sympathy for the actress, and joked that he'd love to just send that actress a case of gin to help her get through all the social media harassment. That's when the spark of the commercial came up.

I didn´t watch the interview because, frankly, I didn´t care about that. I commented on how I find it funny that people went after the actors for "explanation" about the ad when, in reality, they have nothing to do with how it was conceived, it was just a job. If there´s backlash, the ones who should respond to it are the ones that elaborated the ad in the first place.
Also, I think it´s stupid of people to hold her accountable for the ad - in case they didn´t like it - and to have it hurt her career in any way. Why define someone because of an ad that went viral? She seems like a nice person through it all, she´s cute and I loved how she jumped at the idea of doing the RR gin commercial and kinda of laugh about this whole thing (also, I think RR was a genius in this, enjoying the momentum and coming up with that funny response ad) . I hope she has a nice future in the business - who knows, maybe she can play RR love interest in a movie someday lol.

 

[DLgal]

I didn´t watch the interview because, frankly, I didn´t care about that. I commented on how I find it funny that people went after the actors for "explanation" about the ad when, in reality, they have nothing to do with how it was conceived, it was just a job. If there´s backlash, the ones who should respond to it are the ones that elaborated the ad in the first place.
Also, I think it´s stupid of people to hold her accountable for the ad - in case they didn´t like it - and to have it hurt her career in any way. Why define someone because of an ad that went viral? She seems like a nice person through it all, she´s cute and I loved how she jumped at the idea of doing the RR gin commercial and kinda of laugh about this whole thing (also, I think RR was a genius in this, enjoying the momentum and coming up with that funny response ad) . I hope she has a nice future in the business - who knows, maybe she can play RR love interest in a movie someday lol.

Well, when actors are hired to do commercials, they are the literal faces of the company. They are who the public associates with the brand, which is why celebrity spokespeople are always in high demand for products. Naturally, the actors would be interviewed in this case. No one has ever interviewed the marketing team behind ads. Because no one cares about those people.

 

[lifesavacation]

I watched the interview and thought the actress was great. She approached the situation with humor and there probably is some truth to the fact that people aren't used to seeing eyebrows move because of botox