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Hmm...I wonder what this offer will be. Hoping for prices closer to what I booked earlier in the year for our May dates.

same. We booked the DLH for less than $372 a night for a late April trip. Getting a rate that low in July would be unheard of, and if it’s much more, we’ll have to stay off property. So hopefully it’s a REALLY good deal.
 
I'm booked for a trip 3rd week of August, still confident this trip will happen. And I've just received an e-mail from Touringplans about increased crowd level predictions. On several days DCA has been increased from 6 to 8 for 3 out of 5 days. DL only changes 1 point and goes from 3 to 4.
Now, I read crowd calendars like I read horoscopes, it's not an exact science.

But I think even Touringplans must be able to come to the conclusion that the rest of the year could go all directions when the parks reopen. Either it's going to be:
1. super quiet because people are still cautious or because people have lost their jobs etc. and need to save money.
2. super busy because everyone who still has money needs a vacation,
3. normal for the time of year because the 1st and 2nd group cancel each other out.
Either way, if Touringplans would make a change to their predictions, then all days for all parks should follow one of the 3 options, or am I missing something?
 
I'm booked for a trip 3rd week of August, still confident this trip will happen. And I've just received an e-mail from Touringplans about increased crowd level predictions. On several days DCA has been increased from 6 to 8 for 3 out of 5 days. DL only changes 1 point and goes from 3 to 4.
Now, I read crowd calendars like I read horoscopes, it's not an exact science.

But I think even Touringplans must be able to come to the conclusion that the rest of the year could go all directions when the parks reopen. Either it's going to be:
1. super quiet because people are still cautious or because people have lost their jobs etc. and need to save money.
2. super busy because everyone who still has money needs a vacation,
3. normal for the time of year because the 1st and 2nd group cancel each other out.
Either way, if Touringplans would make a change to their predictions, then all days for all parks should follow one of the 3 options, or am I missing something?
First don’t trust any crowd predictions for DL... often they are even the exact opposite because many locals make assumptions based on them...
Touringplan probably has a crazy math program to make the numbers more “random” so it’s not the same number everyday and looks more professional...

I don’t think anyone can make a reasonable assumption on crowd levels at the moment because there is just so much unknown with the crisis...
Important factors I can think of: how long does the shutdown take, how much money is lost there for how many people, any restrictions still in place, any discounts for hotels and most important airfare and social/ economic impact...

Locals with AP will be in the park no matter what just to be back...
APs from further away will try to make trips happen especially if there are cheap flights/ discounts for hotels...
International visitors: depends if global travel is possible and easily done and how expensive impromptu trips might me...
But of course for many people a trip to Disneyland will be impossible that soon after the crisis...(money/ health /education/ job)

My wild guess would be a pretty normal crowd level for that timeframe... (given that Disneyland opens at least 1 month prior...and has regular operation in place)
I think you can make more accurate guesses 60 days out...
 


I saw on one of the bloggers Instagram stories (Disney Food Blog) that the Disneyland offer for people rescheduling is:

“Beginning Monday, March 30, 2020, these select guests will be able to book a special Disneyland Resort offer for most arrival dates from June 1st through December 31st, 2020. The Cast Member we spoke with said the offer will apply to weekdays, Sunday through Thursday. Eligible guests will receive up to 10% off at Paradise Pier for a Premium Room. Guests booking at the Disneyland Hotel or Grand Californian Hotel can receive 15% off a standard room or 20% off a premium room!”

ETA: here’s the link https://www.disneyfoodblog.com/2020...rivate-offer-for-guests-affected-by-closures/
 
I saw on one of the bloggers Instagram stories (Disney Food Blog) that the Disneyland offer for people rescheduling is:

“Beginning Monday, March 30, 2020, these select guests will be able to book a special Disneyland Resort offer for most arrival dates from June 1st through December 31st, 2020. The Cast Member we spoke with said the offer will apply to weekdays, Sunday through Thursday. Eligible guests will receive up to 10% off at Paradise Pier for a Premium Room. Guests booking at the Disneyland Hotel or Grand Californian Hotel can receive 15% off a standard room or 20% off a premium room!”

ETA: here’s the link https://www.disneyfoodblog.com/2020...rivate-offer-for-guests-affected-by-closures/

That is a disappointing discount. We currently have a better deal and won’t be rebooking if this is the best discount.... we’ll just stay off property!
 
As a midwestern family who only makes it to DL periodically and with a trip already planned for the middle of June, one of my concerns is how different or drastic the experience at DL once they do finally open...and for how long some of those changes could be in place. Some are speculating about no parades and evening shows for a time after they open. Those are things that I don’t know that I’m willing to give up if we were to go this summer. Makes us want to potentially push the trip back a year given that Disney has extended the expiration on tickets. 😔
 


I saw on one of the bloggers Instagram stories (Disney Food Blog) that the Disneyland offer for people rescheduling is:

“Beginning Monday, March 30, 2020, these select guests will be able to book a special Disneyland Resort offer for most arrival dates from June 1st through December 31st, 2020. The Cast Member we spoke with said the offer will apply to weekdays, Sunday through Thursday. Eligible guests will receive up to 10% off at Paradise Pier for a Premium Room. Guests booking at the Disneyland Hotel or Grand Californian Hotel can receive 15% off a standard room or 20% off a premium room!”

ETA: here’s the link https://www.disneyfoodblog.com/2020...rivate-offer-for-guests-affected-by-closures/

Not an amazing deal but at this point I’d definitely take the 20% off versus moving my dates into June and not getting that discount. Looks like it would save me close to $1k so the move from May to June would be a little over $1k extra versus $2,200 or so.

I wonder though if it would actually be worth moving from 5/3-5/8 dates to 6/7-612 or if it would just be an exercise in frustration due to a more prolonged closure. *sigh* #firstworldproblems
 
At this point why would they even offer anything - once the park opens up and things go back to anywhere near normal the place is going to be slammed. Also they are losing millions and millions of dollars right now so why they are even offering an incentive is beyond me. I guess though it could be because the economy is going to go to the dogs but there are still going to be lots of people who did not lose a red cent in all of this that will gladly give them their business?
 
From CNN:
Social distancing is going to go until April 30. And we should be recovering by June 1...so that follows the lines of the parks offering hotel reservations June 1 and beyond.

There is no cohesive plan, and instead of creating a situation where the pain is experienced all at once, it's instead a sort of game as to how the economy can get back into recovery mode, versus what is necessary to contain this virus, so our lives can begin to resume.

Even IF we're "recovering" by June 1st, which up until a couple of days ago was supposed to be an Easter "recovery" in 2 weeks, a place like Disneyland does not have an environment conducive to the social distancing which will likely be necessary in order to prevent the virus from getting out of control again.

All of these places in the U.S. that feel like they're isolated and somehow immune from this virus reaching them, and then spreading like wildfire, are going to see outbreaks eventually. It is their reluctance to take this seriously, which is going to drag things out for the places like CA, NY, Washington State, where they are doing their best to stay at home. We're going to have to keep our conditions in place, so that when these other "immune" states start getting hit, we don't get re-infected by someone coming from one of those states.
 
Really annoyed that they went back on changing the expiration date for the multi-day tickets, I was looking to move my trip to next year. I hope they end up extending them officially when all is said and done.
 
I wonder if they are trying to drive cash flow by offering a discount for June 1 and later, thereby getting your one night deposit (room only) or package deposit, right now, when they need cash flow? I am sure they have been refunding many, many deposits of cancelled trips, plus all of the lost revenue from being closed. So the number crunchers are saying, get us some cash flow. I agree that the parks might be really crushed from pent-up demand after the closure, but at the same time, many families are going to be on hard financial times after loss of income, loss of jobs, etc, and may not be able to go to Disney at that point. So they may need to offer a discount to fill the hotels and parks back up. For the casual Disney fan, if they are hurting financially, it will be easy to say, we just can’t go to Disney this year.
 
I wonder if they are trying to drive cash flow by offering a discount for June 1 and later, thereby getting your one night deposit (room only) or package deposit, right now, when they need cash flow?
No; they’re attempting to generate interest in booking and entice guests to return to the parks quickly.

Disney just recently increased their cash flow by 6 billion dollars through bond offerings. That’s what’s getting them through this shutdown period.
 
From CNN:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/29/politics/trump-coronavirus-press-conference/index.html
Social distancing is going to go until April 30. And we should be recovering by June 1...so that follows the lines of the parks offering hotel reservations June 1 and beyond.

*Sidenote: not trying to discuss politics, just giving info on how long things may be lasting that impact the park closure*
Don't worry -- your post is a good example of citing a current news story that really does relate to the DLR closure and possible reopening date. And you have managed to do so without being argumentative, preachy, or off topic. Thank you!

Really annoyed that they went back on changing the expiration date for the multi-day tickets, I was looking to move my trip to next year. I hope they end up extending them officially when all is said and done.
Hang in there -- it is always possible that this policy could change again as this situation continues. Right now, I would note every official update, but be aware that changes (positive or negative) could be forthcoming. Have you contacted Disney about your frustration? Try sending in a comment -- be clear, calm, and detailed about why the new date doesn't help you. They set a date once, then changed it. If enough people complain, they could change it again.
 
As a midwestern family who only makes it to DL periodically and with a trip already planned for the middle of June, one of my concerns is how different or drastic the experience at DL once they do finally open...and for how long some of those changes could be in place. Some are speculating about no parades and evening shows for a time after they open. Those are things that I don’t know that I’m willing to give up if we were to go this summer. Makes us want to potentially push the trip back a year given that Disney has extended the expiration on tickets. 😔
Disney went back on pushing back the expiration dates on tickets for now.

We don’t know what parks will look like when they open. I can see wanting to give it time. We Disney nuts can’t wait to go back- for now. But after a couple months of watching this unfold, living 6 feet apart from others and knowing this is still circulating in society...I concur. Entertainment that requires people to stand next to each other in small spaces (fireworks, parades) could be LONG postponed. I can see Fantasmic and WOC running but with drastic cuts in audience size allowed in viewing areas.

as far as your tickets even if Disney expires them out you should be able to apply the value to new tickets.
 
All, if you haven't done so in a while, check out the Disneyland Community Board, there are several photo threads to explore. While no relief for the current situation we are all in, nor a substitute for postponed Disney trips, it can provide a nice distraction during these uncertain times.


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Don't worry -- your post is a good example of citing a current news story that really does relate to the DLR closure and possible reopening date. And you have managed to do so without being argumentative, preachy, or off topic. Thank you!


Hang in there -- it is always possible that this policy could change again as this situation continues. Right now, I would note every official update, but be aware that changes (positive or negative) could be forthcoming. Have you contacted Disney about your frustration? Try sending in a comment -- be clear, calm, and detailed about why the new date doesn't help you. They set a date once, then changed it. If enough people complain, they could change it again.

Is there a best email address I could write to that anyone knows of that actually gets responses? I've never emailed Disney before; I don't want to clog up the phone lines right now because there are certainly people with more pressing and immediate vacation problems to figure out. I saved the screenshot someone posted upthread with the later expiration date, I forget who shared it but thank you! I'm going to start checking each day and screenshotting myself I guess. This was my first every trip to Disneyland and it was heartbreaking to cancel. It's going to be difficult to fit a trip in to essentially the second half of the year with everything else being rescheduled as well and then the holidays.

Also, just in everyone's opinion with this being a constantly changing situation...is it too early to reach out about this if there's a possibility they might change it back? They're effectively going to be shut down for a little under two months we can presume, and I feel like they can't avoid a somewhat modified guest experience when they first open up. The extra full year was very generous, but even if it's not that long, wouldn't it make sense to add the minimum length of time that the park is closed on to the ticket when they finally open again and know how much time was lost?
 
Is there a best email address I could write to that anyone knows of that actually gets responses? I've never emailed Disney before; I don't want to clog up the phone lines right now because there are certainly people with more pressing and immediate vacation problems to figure out...
We've always used the "contact us" link at the bottom of the DLR webpage. Be sure to leave all your contact information if you want someone to get back to you. It may take a while, given the current situation, but don't be surprised if someone actually does get back to you about this. If you don't hear anything in a reasonable amount of time, try again.
 
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