Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[wombat_5606]

I would like to see cdc guidance saying specifically that

Where have you been for 4 months?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/prevention.html

 

[mshanson3121]

It depends. Masks in relation to Disney sure. Now discussing the ins and outs of statistics and this link vs. that link, and your source vs. mine are not.

The mask debate is endless though and I certainly would appreciate if we moved on from it. Disney is requiring them for Disney springs. Disney has every right to do so.

And given the union agreement, they will be required for the parks as well.

 

[Eric Smith]

Nope. The mayor of orange county is not even meeting with Disney to discuss reopening approval plans until late June. Its july/august. As I've said for over a month now. Unless there is a push by the governor to overrule the county, which DeSantis won't do because of his tenuous position already, they won't even get a plan for opening looked at locally until late June. And then will get state approval. And that is the timeline Disney and uni have been working towards for a while now. Lots of moving parts and agreements on policies, as well as how to handle the opening to abide by guidelines prior to it happening. This is all still in the planning stages and has been for a while.

Do you have a source on that?

 

[xuxa777]

Where have you been for 4 months?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/prevention.html

Fair enough but the cdc also says, linking from that page

In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies) especially in areas of significant community-based transmission.

Conflicting info , no wonder people are confused

 

[Brianstl]

But the union has said masks for their members to come back. If they pull their members the park closes no matter what government says and we have seen the letter they sent out

The union isn’t going to pull their workers over an ADA accommodation that would be an illegal work stoppage. You can not enforce part of a contract in instances when it violates the law.

 

[Krandor]

Fair enough but the cdc also says, linking from that page

In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies) especially in areas of significant community-based transmission.

Conflicting info , no wonder people are confused

Nothing we are talking about is 100% so make thing the best you need to use multiple methods. The more things you implement the lower the risk to the people coming in. Now there is a limit to how many are practical but masks + social distancing is practical. Everything right now is a layered approach. In a situation like this, you just assume everybody is positive and build procedures around limiting the spread assuming that is true.

 

[SarahC97]

I'm very curious how they're going to handle rope drop at DHS with boarding groups for RotR.

 

[Searc]

It depends. Masks in relation to Disney sure. Now discussing the ins and outs of statistics and this link vs. that link, and your source vs. mine are not.

The mask debate is endless though and I certainly would appreciate if we moved on from it. Disney is requiring them for Disney springs. Disney has every right to do so.

Interesting, because my posts directly relating to the DS announcement were deleted, while the mask debate rages on.

 

[MickeyWaffles]

Fair enough but the cdc also says, linking from that page

In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies) especially in areas of significant community-based transmission.

Conflicting info , no wonder people are confused

How is it confusing? I am not confused. It’s been pretty clear.

We know some people will stand or walk too close to others. We know some people will adjust their masks or try to get away with not wearing one.

Combining masks and social distancing is an attempt to yield the best possible outcome. If everyone does both well, HOORAY!

 

[Krandor]

I'm very curious how they're going to handle rope drop at DHS with boarding groups for RotR.

My guess is park reservations with arrival times but at opening anybody can join BGs that has a reservation for the day at HS even if not in the park.

 

[gottalovepluto]

But the union has said masks for their members to come back. If they pull their members the park closes no matter what government says and we have seen the letter they sent out

We kinda need to chill on Florida Union power. If they don’t work after getting called back to work, they don’t get paid. And many of the employees are desperate because FL unemployment is crap and they literally aren’t getting paid. Not to get political but their situation is well known so I don’t think I am. Disney knows their level of desperation for a paycheck darn well. And the union would like to still exist after this so telling everyone to walk off the job because everyone isn’t complying with mask wearing? Ehh. It’s not a strong argument because
1) It automatically assumes all union members want masks. Most likely not the case.
2) And that they are so dedicated to masks they are willing to forgo their paychecks. Definitely not the case.

I don’t see a Union Walk Out under any circumstances honestly. And the language Disney put out today tells everyone they will adjust guidelines based on public officials recommendations... I suspect the final union contract said the same thing...

 

[wombat_5606]

Fair enough but the cdc also says, linking from that page

In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies) especially in areas of significant community-based transmission.

Conflicting info , no wonder people are confused

What is the link you went to from my page I posted?

On the page I posted, it's called How to Protect Yourself and Others. Sounds perfect for the situation at Disney and anywhere else you would want to go.

Under the heading Everyone Should - it explains the 3 things and it expressly tells you that when you are wearing a mask, please still maintain 6 ft.

 

[Krandor]

How is it confusing? I am not confused. It’s been pretty clear.

We know some people will stand or walk too close to others. We know some people will adjust their masks or try to get away with not wearing one.

Combining masks and social distancing is an attempt to yield the best possible outcome. If everyone does both well, HOORAY!

A theme part is a textbook definition of a place where you cannot maintain social distancing 100% of the time. You can do it where you can but there are lots of places where you cannot.

 

[rteetz]

Interesting, because my posts directly relating to the DS announcement were deleted, while the mask debate rages on.

I delete posts, people complain. I don’t delete, people complain.

I think it’s important to have a place to discuss this but it would make my life a lot easier not having to check this thread every 5 minutes.

I have said what I think on the mask topic but that’s not good enough. People will continue to argue about it until the end of eternity at this point. There isn’t a whole lot else I can do about it. I close this thread and the discussion will move to another.

 

[Brianstl]

It depends. Masks in relation to Disney sure. Now discussing the ins and outs of statistics and this link vs. that link, and your source vs. mine are not.

The mask debate is endless though and I certainly would appreciate if we moved on from it. Disney is requiring them for Disney springs. Disney has every right to do so.

I am guilty of posting a link a time or two or more on these issues. It is a stupid thing to do because 90% of the time if the person disagrees with you they aren’t going to read the link at all. Second, I have a hard time believing on these issues that some people bother reading the links they post to support their opinions. It appears in some cases they just skim the article to find one thing they think supports their opinion. If they actually read through the whole thing, they would see the article isn’t saying exactly what they think it is saying. I have probably done this myself before, too.

 

[Krandor]

I delete posts, people complain. I don’t delete, people complain.

I think it’s important to have a place to discuss this but it would make my life a lot easier not having to check this thread every 5 minutes.

I have said what I think on the mask topic but that’s not good enough. People will continue to argue about it until the end of eternity at this point. There isn’t a whole lot else I can do about it. I close this thread and the discussion will move to another.

You have a thankless job but I appreciate what you do even when my posts get deleted (and most of the time it is warranted)

I do not envy your job right now at all.

 

[rteetz]

My friend who is REALLY high up at Disney/Gatorland/Govenor’s office/Publix Shopping Cart Patrol...

I understand you’re trying to lighten the mood here but things like this only end up making it worse and create more work for me.

 

[planecrazy63]

I understand you’re trying to lighten the mood here but things like this only end up making it worse and create more work for me.

I can’t fathom your work right now to keep the forums “safe”. Thank you for doing this for little or no pay (not sure how disboards treats mods)

 

[rteetz]

You have a thankless job but I appreciate what you do even when my posts get deleted (and most of the time it is warranted)

I do not envy your job right now at all.

And I appreciate all the “thanks” and what not many have given me. At the end of the day if we could just listen to what is said by me or any mod or webmaster for that matter, things wouldn’t go on for pages and my job could go back to being thankless.

I much prefer interacting, discussions, and answering questions than having to just post warnings and delete posts. My almost 75,000 posts on this website are not all just doing that.

 

[rteetz]

I can’t fathom your work right now to keep the forums “safe”. Thank you for doing this for little or no pay (not sure how disboards treats mods)

Moderators are volunteers.