Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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So, to summarize... The people who are upset about the lack of transparency are mainly people who have upcoming trips (within the next 2-3 months) -- or those who had trips recently canceled.

The people who think they are overreacting about that lack of transparency either have no trips planned anytime soon, or don't have kids or other commitments and can reschedule for whenever if they get canceled with little notice.

I know I'm generalizing, but the people who aren't going back for a while and don't have flights to potentially reschedule, DVC points, and other decisions to make with whether the reduced experiences will be worth it when they do announce their reopening plans, are not being very empathetic, IMO. I guess if I didn't have a dog in the fight, I sadly might have that attitude too.

Anyhow, it's frustrating to say the least. Someone said it pages ago, but just give me a date that you can give me the date. :rotfl:

@LSUmiss, any update from your cousin on when Seaworld is presenting their plan?
I hadn’t reached out to her this week. I will try this weekend.
 


I would be completely shocked if Disney truly had absolutely ZERO idea Universal was going to open on June 5. The theme park execs meet every single week, there has been talk for weeks about reopening proposals, we all knew last week Universal was going to propose this week, and it would be incredible if the big parks weren't discussing dates and procedures together privately for weeks if not months too. And somehow Disney is "shocked" and now "scrambling" and "having to open to compete with Universal" even though they wanted to open August 31? It makes no sense at all. And to be honest it makes Disney look clueless and caught with their pants down, and now peeking at Universal's notes. This is not the Disney I know.
 
I think @rteetz is right. Probably "some" of that info is true. I never knew of those boards until just now to be honest. @rteetz was my go to for inside info on this board.

The one thing that I find interesting about that Aug 31st date is, there is no way IMO they would of been able to keep DVC closed that long. With things fully opened in Florida they would run into some problems. So thats what makes me think that date is wrong.
 


I would be completely shocked if Disney truly had absolutely ZERO idea Universal was going to open on June 5. The theme park execs meet every single week, there has been talk for weeks about reopening proposals, we all knew last week Universal was going to propose this week, and it would be incredible if the big parks weren't discussing dates and procedures together privately for weeks if not months too. And somehow Disney is "shocked" and now "scrambling" and "having to open to compete with Universal" even though they wanted to open August 31? It makes no sense at all. And to be honest it makes Disney look clueless and caught with their pants down, and now peeking at Universal's notes. This is not the Disney I know.
My thoughts as well. I mean, I have seen a few rumors in the past weeks of Universal hoping for June 1. Surely Disney isn't clueless.
 
I think @rteetz is right. Probably "some" of that info is true. I never knew of those boards until just now to be honest. @rteetz was my go to for inside info on this board.

The one thing that I find interesting about that Aug 31st date is, there is no way IMO they would of been able to keep DVC closed that long. With things fully opened in Florida they would run into some problems. So thats what makes me think that date is wrong.

Not that I’m expecting you to answer for everyone, but I’ve wondered if opening the DVC resorts ASAP even without parks would be even worse. Wouldn’t the points issue still exist somewhat, as people who could cancel far enough in advance and not lose their points would do so, and others would be upset their options are either go on a vacation to a park-less WDW or lose their points as I would assume they would roll back the exceptions they’ve been making?

Feels like another no win. Sorry if this is too OT.
 
They may want to but if called back they can’t claim that money anymore. There are several reports of theme park employees who are still struggling to get any unemployment.
Plus, a week or so ago, our local news reported that Florida added a requirement that you have to refile every two weeks so they know you are still unemployed. If you don’t do it, you don’t get paid. With the huge mess the unemployment system has been to access, I can’t imagine anyone thinking it’s easier to stay on unemployment than to work. It probably takes the full two weeks to get through and file, and it has to be doubly frustrating if you haven’t received any benefits yet. I haven’t heard anything about Disney doing bulk refiles like they did at the beginning when they signed everyone up.
 
Plus, a week or so ago, our local news reported that Florida added a requirement that you have to refile every two weeks so they know you are still unemployed. If you don’t do it, you don’t get paid. With the huge mess the unemployment system has been to access, I can’t imagine anyone thinking it’s easier to stay on unemployment than to work. it probably takes the full two weeks to get through and file, and it has to be doubly frustrating if you haven’t received any benefits yet. I haven’t heard anything about Disney doing bulk refiles like they did at the beginning when they signed everyone up.
Unemployment as a whole across the US is a total mess. I think most people would rather go back to work than being on unemployment because then the paychecks would be guaranteed.
 
I would be completely shocked if Disney truly had absolutely ZERO idea Universal was going to open on June 5. The theme park execs meet every single week, there has been talk for weeks about reopening proposals, we all knew last week Universal was going to propose this week, and it would be incredible if the big parks weren't discussing dates and procedures together privately for weeks if not months too. And somehow Disney is "shocked" and now "scrambling" and "having to open to compete with Universal" even though they wanted to open August 31? It makes no sense at all. And to be honest it makes Disney look clueless and caught with their pants down, and now peeking at Universal's notes. This is not the Disney I know.

I don’t know. This is a once in a life chance for Universal to be the only theme park open in Orlando. Something I thought I’d never say in my lifetime. Pandemic or not, Universal has wanted to upstage Disney for years

Sneaky Sneaky
 
I don't get what the unemployment has to do with it anyway. It's not like a lot of cast members would be able to choose to stay on unemployment and get more money. If they're recalled to work, they have to go back, otherwise they lose their unemployment because it'll be as if they quit. If you quit you're ineligible for unemployment. The only exceptions are if you have the virus or are caring for somebody who does.
 
I don't get what the unemployment has to do with it anyway. It's not like a lot of cast members would be able to choose to stay on unemployment and get more money. If they're recalled to work, they have to go back, otherwise they lose their unemployment because it'll be as if they quit. If you quit you're ineligible for unemployment.
I seriously doubt Disney would put off opening so that employees could collect an unemployment bonus. Especially when so few of them are actually getting anything.
 
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