Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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other than for the people that work those attractions and shows. Fear Factor would've been on hiatus anyways because of HHN and Barney has been on the chopping block for a while, last time I saw it there was 5 people in there

They’re being reassigned though. It sucks that they have to move from one attraction or area to another, but if they’re still getting hours, it’s better than nothing. HHN TMs that don’t specifically work for UOR 10 months out of the year and might have needed that job are the ones I’m concerned about.
 


They’re being reassigned though. It sucks that they have to move from one attraction or area to another, but if they’re still getting hours, it’s better than nothing. HHN TMs that don’t specifically work for UOR 10 months out of the year and might have needed that job are the ones I’m concerned about.
I have a feeling it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better. There is going to be a lot of people out of work soon. Especially in the tourism industry. People just aren't interested in amusement parks right now. Waldameer in Erie cancelled their new attractions for 2021 as their attendance was much lower then they planned for even with the lower capacity.
 


I should have stated earlier, yes MK is much more crowded today. Great for Disney. Mask compliance has been amazing in the parks. Crowded walkways are an issue today as there are instances of being shoulder to shoulder with people while passing. We switched resorts yesterday and mask compliance at the one we switched to is awful. It took a hour and a half to get on a bus this morning as they’re only coming every 35 minutes. There was quite a line and literally every group in front and behind us had masks off. I understand this is beyond Disney’s control but we had a rough start to our morning.
Which resort was it?
 
I have a feeling it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better. There is going to be a lot of people out of work soon. Especially in the tourism industry. People just aren't interested in amusement parks right now. Waldameer in Erie cancelled their new attractions for 2021 as their attendance was much lower then they planned for even with the lower capacity.

In the end, the theme park industry will survive. Some smaller parks will probably close, but theres no substitute for theme parks the way there are for other things, like movies, or physical stores. Although, Rollercoaster Tycoon used to come close. The interest for guests in theme parks is still there, theres just something very big in the way of many people going to them right now. Once we get through this, people will go back, and theme parks will thrive again. It wont be tomorrow, it might not even be this year, but there will come a time when theme parks are packed with people riding the newest ride’s. It might not look like that day will come right now, but it will
 
Stepped away from the thread for a few days (Thanks, Fall 2021 cruises!).

Without going back over hundreds of pages, it does seem the prevailing topic at hand is the same concern that my family and I have been discussing the last few days....the increasing crowds. With it being only 2 1/2-3 weeks into it and crowds already becoming an issue, I am scared to think of what it will increase to by the end of August.

Certainly from the pictures and videos that I have seen, I don't think things could or should increase much more for safety and social distancing purposes. If people are wearing masks, that's great. That's what should be happening. But crowd sizes should never be to a point that most people feel they are taking a risk, even with all the safety measures in place. It is getting to the point that we feel like Disney isn't going to keep guest safety at the forefront anymore.

One vlogger I saw said that they estimated it to be about 25%. I know 25% was sort of the idea in the beginning, but sometimes you (and in the case I mean Disney) have to change things based on reality. And maybe 25% is just too high right now. Maybe 15-20% is what it is going to have to be. And, maybe 25% is fine, for NOW....but if they are planning to increase capacity periodically....every two weeks or a month....it won't be long until we are up to 40%. And, I would hope we all agree that 40% is way, way, way too high.
 
Yes - so two days ago people were saying that the parks would reduce hours or close again because of lack of attendance.

I honestly think we need to take attendance off the table as a subject because it is so dependent on pictures, and vloggers, we have no idea unless there are people actually there - Disney doesn't release those numbers - this is beyond speculation.
 
Yes - so two days ago people were saying that the parks would reduce hours or close again because of lack of attendance.

I honestly think we need to take attendance off the table as a subject because it is so dependent on pictures, and vloggers, we have no idea unless there are people actually there - Disney doesn't release those numbers - this is beyond speculation.

I don’t think people really thought MK or DHS would see reductions. Maybe the rumours brought here said it I can’t remember, but as far as the discussion here it focused on Epcot and AK.

I don’t think MK or DHS are really hurting for crowds. Crowd complaints seem to come primarily from those two when they happen (and DS) which makes a lot of sense and isn’t surprising.
 
Yes - so two days ago people were saying that the parks would reduce hours or close again because of lack of attendance.

I honestly think we need to take attendance off the table as a subject because it is so dependent on pictures, and vloggers, we have no idea unless there are people actually there - Disney doesn't release those numbers - this is beyond speculation.

I think a reduction in hours and/or operations will happen in September.
 
Exactly, the parks have not hit capacity yet since opening as they continue to allow resort and ticket holders to make reservations and continue to sell same day tickets

The thing is....we don't really know anything. We can assume, we can surmise, we can make an educated guess. We know that AP and Resort buckets aren't selling out on any given day on any given park, with the exception of HS. What we don't know is how many tickets they are selling at the gate. I would hope that they have a max that they will sell day-of at the gate, but again....we don't really know that. We don't know if and/or how often they are moving the needle on those buckets. Does it get to within 10 of capacity and then they add another 500 spots to it? Was it 10,000 at opening and now, it's 25,000...but because they are still "in the green" there is a false sense of safe, low crowds?

This is my biggest issue with Disney not releasing numbers. I personally feel that their guests deserve to be informed of the risk they are taking. I should know before I step foot on property or inside a park what the general numbers are. It doesn't have to be exact. But...if I could be there with around 15,000 people versus if I could be there with 40,000 other people...I feel like that is something their guests deserve to know going into it. Not just..."We have a capacity, and you are just going to have to trust us that we will keep the capacity at manageable numbers." Without numbers, things can be very arbitrary, very relative.



I should have stated earlier, yes MK is much more crowded today. Great for Disney. Mask compliance has been amazing in the parks. Crowded walkways are an issue today as there are instances of being shoulder to shoulder with people while passing. We switched resorts yesterday and mask compliance at the one we switched to is awful. It took a hour and a half to get on a bus this morning as they’re only coming every 35 minutes. There was quite a line and literally every group in front and behind us had masks off. I understand this is beyond Disney’s control but we had a rough start to our morning.

That sounds terrible. Wait times are one thing. But, congestion in walkways is absolutely something Disney should be preventing at all costs. And, it isn't really beyond Disney's control at all....they can control number of buses coming. They can also control enforcement of mask usage.
 
I know there's been talk that Disney needs to do something to get people down (discounts, etc) so that they don't have to cut everything/go out of business. Most were saying it would be irresponsible to advertise...for the first time since before this all started, I have ads popping up on my Facebook feed for Universal Orlando...so maybe Disney could start there.
 
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