Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[hertamaniac]

Southwest Airlines has already tweeted for people who could be I packed to check their flight status.

Thanks for the update. I presume everyone should check their flight status into MCO/TPA/etc. over the next 24-36 hours.

 

[anthony2k7]

Airplanes have HEPA filters and cycle the air every few minutes.

How do they know 100% of the air is cycled?

Also whilst air may be continually filtered, contagious person or persons are also continually shedding the virus. So air with virus is continually being dragged by neighbouring seated passengers for entire flight.

 

[SwirlTheCitrus]

How do they know 100% of the air is cycled?

Also whilst air may be continually filtered, contagious person or persons are also continually shedding the virus. So air with virus is continually being dragged by neighbouring seated passengers for entire flight.

It depends if you believe that the virus is an aerosol. Southwest flights are not full right now, and you are able to pick your seat.

 

[hertamaniac]

From what I've read on the Southwest site about their safety standards, the air is filtered as well as cycled with outside air so there is a change over of the air every 3 minutes. I haven't read about the cruise industry though since I am not a fan of cruising.

Here is the company that Virgin Voyages is using to recirculate their air. They claim to neutralize at least 99.9% of the coronavirus.

http://atmosair.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/2020_AtmosAir_Coronavirus-Test_OnePager_v01-1.pdf

 

[Eric Smith]

Interesting point, but I would have really like to see the cycle life data on all the actuators/motors on the Yeti prior to dropping him/her in a fixture that has accessibility issues or whatever is causing the quandary.

They can’t fix the yeti because they’d have to cut the mountain open to get to it.

 

[hertamaniac]

I was pleasantly surprised by Jimmy Fallon RTNY. F&FS was a HUGE disappointment. I was really looking forward to it and it was a big let-down IMO lol

It was after riding Kong a couple of weeks after opening is when we almost swore that "Projection Park" wouldn't get another penny from us. I think when the Epic Universe opens, it will be a lessons learned and will really be a game-changer beyond RotR.

 

[Eric Smith]

But HEPA or ULPA filters are not quantified to eliminate/neutralize COVID-19 right? I thought the company that Virgin Cruises employed advertised 99+% of effectiveness for COVID-19 neutralization? Do you have other data to support HEPA can have the same effectiveness?

The filter doesn’t “eliminate” the virus. The virus is expelled from the body attached to tiny water droplets. The filter catches the droplets and this the virus as well.

 

[hertamaniac]

They can’t fix the yeti because they’d have to cut the mountain open to get to it.

That's not my point. The cycle life data on motors/actuators should have indicated a failure mode prior to a serviceability timeline. Who knows....the data may have shown the Yeti would/should still be operational until 2030?

 

[hertamaniac]

The filter doesn’t “eliminate” the virus. The virus is expelled from the body attached to tiny water droplets. The filter catches the droplets and this the virus as well.

The net result is the same; eliminate the propagation of the virus forward for the duration of at least 1 flight/cruise. The service procedure/protocol would be quantified to show a replacement.

Where is the HEPA filter data to support COVID-19 elimination....err....propagation?

 

[AmberMV]

It was after riding Kong a couple of weeks after opening is when we almost swore that "Projection Park" wouldn't get another penny from us. I think when the Epic Universe opens, it will be a lessons learned and will really be a game-changer beyond RotR.

It's funny because while Kong and F&FS are very similar ride design, I actually really enjoy Kong and I feel there is much better theme immersion in Kong

 

[Vern60]

The filter doesn’t “eliminate” the virus. The virus is expelled from the body attached to tiny water droplets. The filter catches the droplets and this the virus as well.

Yes, just be sure to sit as close as possible to the inlet for maximum effect, right?

 

[Obliviate]

Has anyone been on Smuggler's Run as a solo traveler since the reopening? I'm wondering how good (or bad, really) this ride works with just one person.

Edit: Grammar!

 

[SomeThingsNeverChange]

Where were you waiting for a bus where people had their masks off? If it is on Disney property then it is definitely within their control and should be. Was it at least outside and social distancing?

We were waiting at Caribbean. We had just moved from Contemporary and mask usage was phenomenal there. Not a sole employee at the bus terminal to monitor the situation. No social distancing, minimal mask usage, and with limited capacity on the busses it’s quite a long wait. My husband called the resort to tell them there was a long backup of people and he hadn’t seen a bus. They told him it comes every 35 minutes. For us we waited a hour and half of a wait before we could get on a bus. Once on the bus the drivers didn’t say a word to those not wearing masks either. Not a great way to start our day.

 

[SMRT-1]

Interesting point, but I would have really like to see the cycle life data on all the actuators/motors on the Yeti prior to dropping him/her in a fixture that has accessibility issues or whatever is causing the quandary.

It's not a matter of accessibility to the animatronic, though. Joe Rhode has stated that the problem is not with getting to the animatronic (it would seem silly of them to have put such a complicated animatronic somewhere they couldn't access it for maintenance). The problem, from what I understand, has to do with the fact that the yeti sits on top of its own independent free-standing structure in the middle of the rest of the ride structure (Rhode described it as a complicated machine on top of a 150 ft tower inside a finished building) and mistakes in the bleeding edge construction techniques they used on Everest resulted in structural issues in the Yeti support tower such that it's not safe for it to run in "A mode." So they need to be able to get at the support tower to fix the structural issues while not damaging the yeti in the process which is why some think might require them cut open the side of the main structure. As Joe Rhode put it... "It's a hard problem."

 

[chicagoshannon]

Has anyone being on Smuggler's Run as a solo traveler since the reopening? I'm wondering how good (or bad, really) this ride works with just one person.

I haven't ever been on it but I just heard someone that went on alone say he got 2 of whatever you're supposed to get. lol

 

[Dentam]

We were waiting at Caribbean. We had just moved from Contemporary and mask usage was phenomenal there. Not a sole employee at the bus terminal to monitor the situation. No social distancing, minimal mask usage, and with limited capacity on the busses it’s quite a long wait. My husband called the resort to tell them there was a long backup of people and he hadn’t seen a bus. They told him it comes every 35 minutes. For us we waited a hour and half of a wait before we could get on a bus. Once on the bus the drivers didn’t say a word to those not wearing masks either. Not a great way to start our day.

You should report this (nicely of course) to a manager there at the Caribbean resort. Not okay at all!

 

[Tiggr88]

We were waiting at Caribbean. We had just moved from Contemporary and mask usage was phenomenal there. Not a sole employee at the bus terminal to monitor the situation. No social distancing, minimal mask usage, and with limited capacity on the busses it’s quite a long wait. My husband called the resort to tell them there was a long backup of people and he hadn’t seen a bus. They told him it comes every 35 minutes. For us we waited a hour and half of a wait before we could get on a bus. Once on the bus the drivers didn’t say a word to those not wearing masks either. Not a great way to start our day.

No it’s not. Hopefully it gets better. Did the resort just reopen? Maybe it’s some growing pains and not a long term issue.

I’m not sure we’ve actually discussed how increased crowds or opening more resorts might put additional strain on the transportation. Looks like they may need more buses and drivers. Aside from the cost issue, I wonder if they have any issue getting bus drivers to come back. Not sure if it is true or not but I read some speculation earlier on that the drivers tended to be older and perhaps more high risk and might not be as eager to return depending on how well they were protected on the bus. Can’t say I would blame them if people ignore them when they ask them to wear their masks.

 

[Dentam]

ResortTV1 is at HS tonight. I know it closes soon, but man is it dead there. Josh said he got to the park at 2 and was able to get a boarding pass for RotR. For a Friday night and reports of increased crowd levels lately, this is amazing I think!

 

[osufeth24]

ResortTV1 is at HS tonight. I know it closes soon, but man is it dead there. Josh said he got to the park at 2 and was able to get a boarding pass for RotR. For a Friday night and reports of increased crowd levels lately, this is amazing I think!

Wonder if a lot of people bailed due to the heat. The heat index got up to either 108 or 109 today

 

[Geomom]

ResortTV1 is at HS tonight. I know it closes soon, but man is it dead there. Josh said he got to the park at 2 and was able to get a boarding pass for RotR. For a Friday night and reports of increased crowd levels lately, this is amazing I think!

We were at HS today, from 11:30-6. We didn't get a boarding pass at 2pm. It was crowded in toy story land around 1pm, but only 10-15 minute waits for toy story mania and saucers, 30 minutes for slinky dog. Waited 45 min for MMRR at 3:30. It was HOT today, 98, felt like 108. I'm not surprised that it looked dead after 6. We just couldn't take the heat anymore.