What's the current lid/straw situation?

frighteningmcmean

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Hi! Sorry, I feel like I shouldn't be having this much trouble finding the answer to this, but are lids available with the cups you get at restaurants? Paper straws? Any recent photos of your tables/meals with a picture of a cup in it so I know what to expect? Much appreciated!
 
Pretty sure there were no lids in MK but don't know about the straws. I recall seeing a woman struggling to keep her tray of drinks upright at Casey's while a couple of refillable mugs hung from her waist on a carabiner. This was probably around Christmas time.
 


The festival kiosks at Epcot no longer had drink lids last time I asked. The lack of lids led a nice lady to accidentally spill her drink on my clothes as she passed by. Back when lids were available at these kiosks, they were great for minimizing such unnecessary stains on clothing, and for minimizing extra use of soap and water to try to clean the stains out of the clothing.
 
When I was there last month, no lids anywhere (at least where I bought a drink). Straws were scarce, as well. Some QS park locations had paper straws, some did not. I was able to get paper straws at table service locations, and the Contempo Cafe (only non-park QS location I ate at during the trip).
 


Were I a regular QS drinker I would definitely invest in reusable straws and a Ziploc bag to hold them in.
As for the lids I think you need to go back in time when lids weren't readily available and just not fill the cup as much. Maybe Disney will initiate a 1/2 hour training course for their workers explaining the logic of not overfilling anymore. Or maybe just send them a memo.
 
So if people are buying straws and bringing them in Ziploc baggies then I guess there goes the environmental savings. Just more political correctness run amok. Who cares that kids are spilling drinks all over themselves becoming a sticky magnet for bees? Not to mention more labor and cleaning supplies (including paper napkins!) to clean up the messes. Well as long as everyone is feeling better - doesn't matter if a policy actually works
 
Were I a regular QS drinker I would definitely invest in reusable straws and a Ziploc bag to hold them in.
As for the lids I think you need to go back in time when lids weren't readily available and just not fill the cup as much. Maybe Disney will initiate a 1/2 hour training course for their workers explaining the logic of not overfilling anymore. Or maybe just send them a memo.
Well, "back in the day" the cups were not nearly as flimsy. Flimsy cups without lids equals a much better chance for spills. Fill them only 1/2 way or so? Guess that might help, but some guests may not be too happy.
 
The festival kiosks at Epcot no longer had drink lids last time I asked. The lack of lids led a nice lady to accidentally spill her drink on my clothes as she passed by. Back when lids were available at these kiosks, they were great for minimizing such unnecessary stains on clothing, and for minimizing extra use of soap and water to try to clean the stains out of the clothing.
You can always buy new (stupidly overpriced) clothing from Disney, and you can use the laundry facilities at the resorts (Also stupidly overpriced) if you're staying at one.
All of which would add to Mr Iger's pocket lining.

So if people are buying straws and bringing them in Ziploc baggies then I guess there goes the environmental savings. Just more political correctness run amok. Who cares that kids are spilling drinks all over themselves becoming a sticky magnet for bees? Not to mention more labor and cleaning supplies (including paper napkins!) to clean up the messes. Well as long as everyone is feeling better - doesn't matter if a policy actually works
Exactly..........
The "Save the World" mentality completely ignores the laws of physics and human nature.
A plumber recently told me, as he was roto rooting my drain, that the low flush, "great for the environment" Federally mandated toilets are the reason for the vast majority of his calls.
Not enough water is used to move the "stuff" to the sewer so it collects in our pipes.
His advice.......
Flush at least two times to move the effluent into the city sewer.
That blows the "saving water" mantra that the Government used to justify the low flush toilets.
I was at WDW when the new Earth saving "Eliminate the demon plastic" policy went into effect last August and I observed people spilling their uncovered drinks onto their trays as they made their way through the crowd to a table.
When the tray was placed on a waste receptacle after their meal many of them put their waste in the container and then shook the tray's liquid overflow onto the floor before placing it on the stack of used trays.
Which begs the question, "Is new carpet every year, in the WDW eating establishments that have it, good for the environment?"
Or, "Is it worth the potential pain and suffering caused when a guest slips and falls on the wet tile in the establishments that have that flooring?"
Oh yeah, and the likely lawsuit that inevitably follows such a fall.
The saying, "Penny wise and dollar foolish." comes to mind.
 
Last week no lids were to be found anywhere but pretty much every QS and TS we ate at had straws- you had to ask for them. They are not readily handing them out to anyone but they are available when asked for.
 
It was hit and miss for us a few weeks ago. I would say 25% lids 75% no lids. Sometimes we got plastic straws, sometimes paper, and a couple of times no straws. FYI slushee with a paper straw is a bad combination.
 
So if people are buying straws and bringing them in Ziploc baggies then I guess there goes the environmental savings. Just more political correctness run amok. Who cares that kids are spilling drinks all over themselves becoming a sticky magnet for bees? Not to mention more labor and cleaning supplies (including paper napkins!) to clean up the messes. Well as long as everyone is feeling better - doesn't matter if a policy actually works
Personally no problem from a container w/o a straw but some people enjoy the convenience:). I don't see this as political correctness run amok; plastic garbage is currently floating around the oceans waiting for a few lifetimes to disintegrate. Scientists have now found plastic filaments in the guts of sea creatures who live in the depths of the Great Reef. If the garbage has reached that far down what are they doing to the higher level fish we regularly eat? We can still wash clothes with the biodegradable soap that is now readily available and children will learn a valuable lesson in how to eat and drink; win-win

Well, "back in the day" the cups were not nearly as flimsy. Flimsy cups without lids equals a much better chance for spills. Fill them only 1/2 way or so? Guess that might help, but some guests may not be too happy.
I think we come from 2 different sets of "olden days";). I remember much more flimsy cups from counter service places that were paper cones.

@UncleMike101 - if any plumber today is still complaining about 2 flush toilets- it's time for the homeowner to buy a new bowl since the unit is paid for but the water bill isn't.
Lower water usage commodes first became widely available in the '80's and yes the first generation version were a PITB, literally and figuratively, LOL. Problem was resolved back in the '90's unless people went for the lowest priced units not knowing that they were in for a lifetime of......downloading.
"Pennywise and pound foolish" does come to mind.

Remember, everyone, these are just straws and when they were first invented they were made of glass or metal and specifically marketed for invalids.
 
Personally no problem from a container w/o a straw but some people enjoy the convenience:). I don't see this as political correctness run amok; plastic garbage is currently floating around the oceans waiting for a few lifetimes to disintegrate. Scientists have now found plastic filaments in the guts of sea creatures who live in the depths of the Great Reef. If the garbage has reached that far down what are they doing to the higher level fish we regularly eat? We can still wash clothes with the biodegradable soap that is now readily available and children will learn a valuable lesson in how to eat and drink; win-win


I think we come from 2 different sets of "olden days";). I remember much more flimsy cups from counter service places that were paper cones.

@UncleMike101 - if any plumber today is still complaining about 2 flush toilets- it's time for the homeowner to buy a new bowl since the unit is paid for but the water bill isn't.
Lower water usage commodes first became widely available in the '80's and yes the first generation version were a PITB, literally and figuratively, LOL. Problem was resolved back in the '90's unless people went for the lowest priced units not knowing that they were in for a lifetime of......downloading.
"Pennywise and pound foolish" does come to mind.

Remember, everyone, these are just straws and when they were first invented they were made of glass or metal and specifically marketed for invalids.
My toilet is three years old and the advertisement stated that it will flush a dozen golf balls. (I've not had the courage to try that.)
From my plumber.
The maximum allowed flow from a toiled is 1.6 gal.
The older toilets used 3.5 gal.
My toilet is 45 feet from the City sewer.
At the required slope angle from a residential dwelling 1.6 gal will not push effluent, (You know. The chunky stuff.) 45 ft unless it is jet propelled, gravity is insufficient unless the angle of departure is at least double the requirement.
Since the last plumbers visit we've been doing the two, sometimes three, flush routine and have had no issues. :yay:
 
My toilet is three years old and the advertisement stated that it will flush a dozen golf balls. (I've not had the courage to try that.)
From my plumber.
The maximum allowed flow from a toiled is 1.6 gal.
The older toilets used 3.5 gal.
My toilet is 45 feet from the City sewer.
At the required slope angle from a residential dwelling 1.6 gal will not push effluent, (You know. The chunky stuff.) 45 ft unless it is jet propelled, gravity is insufficient unless the angle of departure is at least double the requirement.
Since the last plumbers visit we've been doing the two, sometimes three, flush routine and have had no issues. :yay:

The last building I lived in was at least 1,200 feet in the air so all the bathrooms had a straight run until the stack reached the basement or cellar level and the pitch to the city sewer line was probably somewhere between 45 and 90 degrees. In all likelihood it was around 50-60 ft away from the city line. Currently living in a building on a higher floor that probably has a hydraulic system to aid gravity with the same distance from the city's sewer connection. The latter is conjecture on my part as I have not yet seen the building's offering plan but the time this building was put up matches the mechanical plant systems of that time. I have not had any need for 2 flushes since the 1.6 gal. toilets were installed in either residences.

Were I you, I would look carefully at the specs for your existing commode(s) and consider changing them if need be as the least expensive solution. Changing any aspect of your sewer connection would be financially onerous. We pay for water connections by metered usage, have some of the highest water costs in the country per capita and thus are very conscious of keeping as much money as possible in our individual pocketbooks.
 
I think we come from 2 different sets of "olden days";). I remember much more flimsy cups from counter service places that were paper cones.
Remember, everyone, these are just straws and when they were first invented they were made of glass or metal and specifically marketed for invalids.
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Well, paper water cones are not the same thing as paper cups, anyplace I've lived.

I travel with someone with serious neurologic disease. Neither of us think of him as an invalid, we just use devices that make his life easier. I've learned that (these days) I need to bring clean, sanitary straws for him. And we will continue to do that. It's easy enough to order a box on Amazon.
Honestly, we feel blessed we are still able to travel together. :flower:
 
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I travel with someone with serious neurologic disease. Neither of us think of him as an invalid, we just use devices that make his life easier. I've learned to bring clean, sanitary straws for him. And we will continue to do that.
Honestly, we feel blessed we are still able to travel together. :flower:
Having a medical condition is just who straws were invented for and I'm truly happy that our medical knowledge continues on so many levels as it makes life easier for all with access to it. I'm not suggesting we go back in time in how we view individuals or groups (one of my maternal uncles went from being a sturdy and witty merchant mariner to being laid to waste from neurological problems (he could still make me laugh and think then) and finally leukemia which was a death sentence when he passed) as the progression has been wonderful for all, just to think towards now and later. If something as simple as switching to reusable, or paper or bamboo straws is better for society as a whole, I'm good with minor inconveniences.
 
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Well, paper water cones are not the same thing as paper cups, anyplace I've lived.

I travel with someone with serious neurologic disease. Neither of us think of him as an invalid, we just use devices that make his life easier. I've learned that (these days) I need to bring clean, sanitary straws for him. And we will continue to do that. It's easy enough to order a box on Amazon.
Honestly, we feel blessed we are still able to travel together. :flower:

Agreed. They weren't just water cups back then but were also used at counter services like your local pizza shop, Nedick's, Papaya King, Woolworth's, etc. All named stores that you probably only heard of in fairy tales. The paper containers which held more ozs. (6-8) than the current water cones were placed in hard molded plastic stands and you drank on site.
Told ya my "g/olden years" were different from your's;). Ask your parents or maybe even your grandparents and they'll confirm:).
 
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