Star Wars and Avatar multiple sequel schedules.

It may be a more global thing. That's where the film made a lot more of it's money proportionally.

Avatar was indeed immensely popular outside of the US. I think the biggest issue though is that there was never any more to keep the property on people's minds. They have taken a long time with the sequels, and Pandora at AK was the first thing to come up to reinvigorate the brand. I don't think it'll be too much of an issue for them though. The marketing will likely be insane, and with the the tie-in to the park now, I think they'll do just fine. The world wants Avatar sequels, it just wants them in 2011!
 
I hope (or wish really) they would do a Full on Sith origin movie. Or an HBO (I guess it would be Disney +) style series along the Game of Thrones style. To see how the Sith became and all the lords and such would be really cool.
 
I really wouldn't be surprised if some of the Avatar sequels never see the light of day.
I think the 2nd may do fine for curiosity sake (like the first one really was more to do with curiosity and technology breakthroughs and such). I think after that they will fall off massively as there isnt the curiosity factor and the story really is not that interesting. If it were not due to the hype, technology, and Cameron name the story would have got lost in the mud with any other movie like Titan AE, or Waterworld and such.
 
Waiting 3 more years before another Star Wars movie hits the big screen? Just seems way too long -- but maybe that is ALSO a strategy to push people to Disney+ to see the Star Wars content there (Star Wars Clone Wars and the Mandalorian) .

Again though . I don't think they are doing the franchise any service by bouncing around all these different eras. If you have a new trilogy -- STICK to .. and improve on that content. Have shows and movies set in the new era -- don't keep flashing back.

It just seems Disney's strategy with Star Wars(unlike Marvel) was "let's cash in on nostalgia .. and it worked for the first few years (until the Last Jedi didn't cohesively continue the story and until Solo came too soon after that). Hopefully regrouping for 3 years will help that.
 


Waiting 3 more years before another Star Wars movie hits the big screen? Just seems way too long -- but maybe that is ALSO a strategy to push people to Disney+ to see the Star Wars content there (Star Wars Clone Wars and the Mandalorian) .

Again though . I don't think they are doing the franchise any service by bouncing around all these different eras. If you have a new trilogy -- STICK to .. and improve on that content. Have shows and movies set in the new era -- don't keep flashing back.

It just seems Disney's strategy with Star Wars(unlike Marvel) was "let's cash in on nostalgia .. and it worked for the first few years (until the Last Jedi didn't cohesively continue the story and until Solo came too soon after that). Hopefully regrouping for 3 years will help that.


I actually don't mind them bouncing around different eras. I just hope that if they do a trilogy or a universe like MCU, they actually force the directors and story to be cohesive. But if they want to focus on one era on Disney+ and another era in the movies, I'm fine with that. I'd be less ok with them bouncing stuff from one era to Disney+ from the movies and then back and forth. People lose that kind of continuity quickly.
 
I hope (or wish really) they would do a Full on Sith origin movie. Or an HBO (I guess it would be Disney +) style series along the Game of Thrones style. To see how the Sith became and all the lords and such would be really cool.

Siths of Thrones.

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It may be a more global thing. That's where the film made a lot more of it's money proportionally.

Well, I’m from the UK and there is zero buzz about it here. I mean, it was popular at the time but purely because it was the first movie to do proper 3D, but that is commonplace now.
 


It’s nice that this new trilogy is gonna be the Benioff and Weiss one and not the Rian Johnson trilogy. At least they have not disappointed a whole legion of fans of a beloved universe.
 
It’s nice that this new trilogy is gonna be the Benioff and Weiss one and not the Rian Johnson trilogy. At least they have not disappointed a whole legion of fans of a beloved universe.

I don't know, based on the reactions to this season of GOT they kind of have. Not as large of a legion or as old a universe, but still.
 
I don't know, based on the reactions to this season of GOT they kind of have. Not as large of a legion or as old a universe, but still.

Yeah, I don't watch GoT, but I have heard some friends complaining about it. I'd probably prefer Rian Johnson, but I didn't hate Last Jedi anyway. It's certainly not the strongest SW movie out there, but I really don't see what everyone got bent out of shape about.
 
As a fan of both Game of Thrones (show and books) and Star Wars, I must say I've been disappointed in the treatments of both lately.

Maybe the Russos? MCU has only gotten better overall. End Game was fantastic in my opinion.

I wonder if the bigger problem isn't that overarching manager. MCU has their Feige. Heck, Pixar had Lasseter when they were going strong. The Game of Thrones playbook was literally written by Martin until the show passed the books. The Rey trilogy doesn't feel like it has a strong sense of overall direction (though I think that was only part of TLJ's problem). With D&D only being writers, maybe a good director (or a solid producer) can iron out their deficiencies.
 
As a fan of both Game of Thrones (show and books) and Star Wars, I must say I've been disappointed in the treatments of both lately.

Maybe the Russos? MCU has only gotten better overall. End Game was fantastic in my opinion.

I wonder if the bigger problem isn't that overarching manager. MCU has their Feige. Heck, Pixar had Lasseter when they were going strong. The Game of Thrones playbook was literally written by Martin until the show passed the books. The Rey trilogy doesn't feel like it has a strong sense of overall direction (though I think that was only part of TLJ's problem). With D&D only being writers, maybe a good director (or a solid producer) can iron out their deficiencies.

I think the Sequel Trilogy will seem better once all is said and done. I know TLJ zagged when everyone expected a zig, but really, what's so wrong with that? I felt that making some unexpected choices was warranted after the very safe The Force Awakens. Once we see where it all ends up, it will make a bit more sense. I do hope they have a strong director for the GoT guys to work with. This is only based on what I've heard since I don't watch it, but everyone says that there has been a notable loss of quality since they surpassed where the books left off.
 
To me Star Wars is a much harder product to create and that is their problem. A Marvel film is usually a hack and slash that takes place in one sitting. Bad guy enters movie, good guy kills bad guy, roll to credits. Star Wars (when done correctly..) takes multiple films to tell the complete story. People get so upset with the SW films because they are so invested in them. People don't get upset with MU. You don't like a certain Marvel movie? oh well, another will be out in 3 months.

I think of a Marvel film as a book and a Star Wars film as a novel. And I agree that with a new film, there needs to be no overlapping characters. In fact, not even a mention of them. Something from the old KOTOR games would be awesome.
 
I don't know, based on the reactions to this season of GOT they kind of have. Not as large of a legion or as old a universe, but still.
It was sarcasm. I’m not I big GoT fan was a book reader but gave up on them before it became a tv show. It’s been interesting watching the reaction people are losing their minds. I would of rather have had Rian Johnson’s trilogy but I’ll give Benioff and Weiss a chance.
 
I think the Sequel Trilogy will seem better once all is said and done. I know TLJ zagged when everyone expected a zig, but really, what's so wrong with that? I felt that making some unexpected choices was warranted after the very safe The Force Awakens. Once we see where it all ends up, it will make a bit more sense. I do hope they have a strong director for the GoT guys to work with. This is only based on what I've heard since I don't watch it, but everyone says that there has been a notable loss of quality since they surpassed where the books left off.

It's possible the third one will make the second one better, but I'll be ok if the third one just manages to be good on its own.

I didn't like TLJ overall, but I have no problem if others liked it. It's not a fight, just opinions. I wish everyone approached it that way (speaking generally, not to anyone here).

I could go into the reasons I think GoT has struggled, but that's not what this thread is for. I don't know that it matters who makes it. I just hope I like it.
 
People get so upset with the SW films because they are so invested in them. People don't get upset with MU.

People don't get upset with Marvel movies because, even at their worst (Iron Man 3, for me), they're not as bad as some of the SW films. IOW, the Marvel movies don't suck. Some of the SW films have.
 
I'm really looking forward to the new D&D Star Wars movies. There are a lot of issues with the current run of movies that can make a good comparison with GOT. Star Wars has been held captive by the Skywalker saga. Disney needed to resurrect and old mangled storyline that started off with a great original trilogy, got butchered by Lucas with the prequels and the new writers/directors were handcuffed trying to clean up that mess that stretched over 40 years.

Just like GRRM handcuffed the showrunners of GOT with a terrible mess of a story line when his books ran out, Star Wars is the same way. But D&D did an excellent job of creating a world full of characters. I hope they can write well enough to create new stories.

Star Wars is a massive universe. I can't wait to see what they can do with a very clean slate and create stories without any of the legacy characters weighing it down.
 
It's possible the third one will make the second one better, but I'll be ok if the third one just manages to be good on its own.

I didn't like TLJ overall, but I have no problem if others liked it. It's not a fight, just opinions. I wish everyone approached it that way (speaking generally, not to anyone here).

I could go into the reasons I think GoT has struggled, but that's not what this thread is for. I don't know that it matters who makes it. I just hope I like it.

Hey, at least you can disagree in a respectful manner. So many fans can't do that. Certainly I can respect the position of those who didn't like TLJ (or the Prequels) if they can give actual reasons and not just parrot the "outrage" from the Internet. There's always room for criticism and debate, but certain segments of fandom on the Internet really make it ridiculous.
 
People don't get upset with Marvel movies because, even at their worst (Iron Man 3, for me), they're not as bad as some of the SW films. IOW, the Marvel movies don't suck. Some of the SW films have.

Agreed but thats kind of my point, It's kinda hard to make a Marvel movie suck. They are linear.
 
Agreed but thats kind of my point, It's kinda hard to make a Marvel movie suck. They are linear.

I disagree. Just because the story has a specific arc or timeline, it doesn't guarantee the final product will be good.

I mean, Back to the Future wasn't linear. It wasn't even exponential. But it was incredible. :D
 

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