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NotUrsula said:
(I believe that the dispatch speed will decline a bit in practice. I am guessing it will end up somewhere closer to 30-40 seconds, because with the REALLY large number of strollers at WDW, getting off will be slower than getting on, and they will probably need to adjust for that. Still quite fast, but not as fast as testing with no passengers to deal with.)
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That would reduce capacity by at least 67%. I really don't think it will happen.

Remember, strollers roll on and off, don't need to be folded, and kids can stay in them. There are no steps to deal with, and no need to unload the week's worth of provisions from the stroller's bag. Ecv users at WDW tend to be inexperienced, but most parents with strollers have plenty of experience maneuvering them.

I suspect Disney would rather deal with an occasional E-stop if someone doesn't disembark in the available time than to slow down the entire system that much. Cast at the unload area may also have the option to slow the system for a few seconds if they catch sight of someone taking a while to "gather their belongings."
 
With the story that came out today about the firefighters and the severe storms we have here in Florida during Summer days, IMO I think the gondolas will have a lot more down time then people think, mostly in the summer though with the storms.

You have to figure, they see the storms coming on radar, they stop loading and get everyone off and wait out the storm. You have to believe that time will be anywhere between 1 and 2 hours of downtime during the storms.

The saving grace of summer Florida storms is usually one big line comes through in the afternoon and that's it done for the day.
 
Spridell said:
With the story that came out today about the firefighters and the severe storms we have here in Florida during Summer days, IMO I think the gondolas will have a lot more down time then people think, mostly in the summer though with the storms.

You have to figure, they see the storms coming on radar, they stop loading and get everyone off and wait out the storm. You have to believe that time will be anywhere between 1 and 2 hours of downtime during the storms.

The saving grace of summer Florida storms is usually one big line comes through in the afternoon and that's it done for the day.
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These can operate in storms. The lightening is the worry.
 
rteetz said:
These can operate in storms. The lightening is the worry.
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Right, which is pretty much a daily thing with the bad summer Florida storms.

They have to shut it down when the storms are a certain distance away. Add that timing, then the time it takes the storm to clear through and far enough for no more lightning strikes, is where I think the 1 to 2 hours during the bad storms.
 


Spridell said:
Right, which is pretty much a daily thing with the bad summer Florida storms.

They have to shut it down when the storms are a certain distance away. Add that timing, then the time it takes the storm to clear through and far enough for no more lightning strikes, is where I think the 1 to 2 hours during the bad storms.
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I don't think so. They should be able to cycle out a line in anywhere from 15-30 minutes. The theory or speculation is lightening within 6 miles.
 
rteetz said:
I don't think so. They should be able to cycle out a line in anywhere from 15-30 minutes. The theory or speculation is lightening within 6 miles.
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6 miles out shutdown is given. Storm moving at 25 mph. So doing that math they would have NO CHOICE but to cycle everyone off in 15 minutes or less before storm arrives.

Then another 15 minutes for storm to pass and add another 10 min or so before it is safe and no more lightening threat.

We can agree to disagree, but I am sticking with my 1 hour or more shutdown during severe storms. The math adds up to an hour just for it to be safe again.
 
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NotUrsula said:
(I believe that the dispatch speed will decline a bit in practice. I am guessing it will end up somewhere closer to 30-40 seconds, because with the REALLY large number of strollers at WDW, getting off will be slower than getting on, and they will probably need to adjust for that. Still quite fast, but not as fast as testing with no passengers to deal with.)
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You should watch more of the videos of them in operation. While one departs every 10 seconds there are 4-5 on both the unloading and loading side at all times. Thus they are in the station at least 80-90 seconds.
 
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Spridell said:
With the story that came out today about the firefighters and the severe storms we have here in Florida during Summer days, IMO I think the gondolas will have a lot more down time then people think, mostly in the summer though with the storms.
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Keep in mind that the story about the firefighters was planted to put pressure on RCID to hire more firefighters. As such it is slanted towards one point of view.

Living very close to the parks for over 5 years now and I'm very familiar with the storms that pass through many days in the summer. They typically last only 15-30 minutes from bright sunshine to bright sunshine.

Spridell said:
They have to shut it down when the storms are a certain distance away. Add that timing, then the time it takes the storm to clear through and far enough for no more lightning strikes, is where I think the 1 to 2 hours during the bad storms.
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I don't think its been established that they have to shut it down for lightning.
 
Maybe I'm overly nervous, but I'm not feeling too comfortable when I'm by myself about being in a closed cabin with roughly 10 strangers way up high where no one's close by to come to my aid if I scream. At least on rides, even the monorail, you're never that far from CMs. What if someone claims "He touched me inappropriately up there". But then, ski gondolas have worked successfully for years, so no doubt I'm worried for nothing.
 
Spaceguy55 said:
:rolleyes:\Does anyone think the DHS to CBR to POP/AOA will open next weekend "Memorial Day"..or is it just me because we'll be there then ? :rolleyes:
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Nobody has reported seeing any cm training yet. The guys in the station look like construction workers and technicians.

Nobody has seen cm's riding the system. I think training and final testing will include cm's queuing up and boarding the cabins as Guests would. Maybe even pushing a few strollers on.

And I think the CBR and DHS stations have more than a week's worth of work to finish.
 
OKW Lover said:
Keep in mind that the story about the firefighters was planted to put pressure on RCID to hire more firefighters. As such it is slanted towards one point of view.

Living very close to the parks for over 5 years now and I'm very familiar with the storms that pass through many days in the summer. They typically last only 15-30 minutes from bright sunshine to bright sunshine.


I don't think its been established that they have to shut it down for lightning.
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Right so the avg storm lasts 15-30 min then add 15 min before that and 15 min after to be safe from the lightening (if they do have to be closed down for the lightening) adds up to about an hour.
 
Simba's Mom said:
Maybe I'm overly nervous, but I'm not feeling too comfortable when I'm by myself about being in a closed cabin with roughly 10 strangers way up high where no one's close by to come to my aid if I scream. At least on rides, even the monorail, you're never that far from CMs. What if someone claims "He touched me inappropriately up there". But then, ski gondolas have worked successfully for years, so no doubt I'm worried for nothing.
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If you're worried, or uncomfortable, you are. There isn't anything silly about it.

I have kids who had some issues with anxietys when they were younger and CMs were always kind and accommodating about it. For example, they wouldn't place a single rider with us if I asked them not to. (Trust me, the single rider in question would be better off waiting the extra 15 seconds than riding with my hysterical child.)

If you express your hesitance to the CM at loading, I am sure they will allow you to step aside to wait for a lull in the line of a group that looks safe to you - all women, or a family with children.
 
Simba's Mom said:
Maybe I'm overly nervous, but I'm not feeling too comfortable when I'm by myself about being in a closed cabin with roughly 10 strangers way up high where no one's close by to come to my aid if I scream. At least on rides, even the monorail, you're never that far from CMs. What if someone claims "He touched me inappropriately up there". But then, ski gondolas have worked successfully for years, so no doubt I'm worried for nothing.
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If you are uncomfortable that is perfectly OK! I will get off elevators if I am alone and a man gets on and I am not comfortable. You do you. As long as I am only inconveniencing myself, who cares? I've taught my daughters the same thing.
 
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