Question about the internet, what is permissable, etc.

snapppyd · May 23, 2019

I was going through some photos from one of our Disney trips. I have the most adorable pictures of a little girl dancing in the rain. She is wearing a red tutu and holding a Disney umbrella. You cannot see her face. I would love to find her parents and give them the pics. They were taken from my balcony at the Beach Club and the overhead angle was perfect.

My question - would it be right or wrong to post on facebook or the resorts forum here to try to find the family?

Again, you cannot see her face. The pics were taken in May of 2015.

thanks in advance for any advice!

tvguy · May 23, 2019

A photo taken of someone in a public place, you are good to go. You have no expectation of privacy in a public place and no legal grounds to object.

Now if you took a picture of her say inside her hotel room, that would be a no no.

sam_gordon · May 23, 2019

tvguy said:
A photo taken of someone in a public place, you are good to go. You have no expectation of privacy in a public place and no legal grounds to object.

Now if you took a picture of her say inside her hotel room, that would be a no no.

Totally agree from a legal standpoint. However, some people get upset when you post ANY picture of them or their family members irregardless of where you took it.

snapppyd · May 23, 2019

It is just such an innocent, perfect picture. She and her brother were in the courtyard, but what makes it special is the Disney logo on her umbrella. Thanks for responding.

tvguy · May 23, 2019

sam_gordon said:
Totally agree from a legal standpoint. However, some people get upset when you post ANY picture of them or their family members irregardless of where you took it.

Nothing that can be done about that.

sam_gordon · May 23, 2019

tvguy said:
Nothing that can be done about that.

Again, I agree with you. I'm just trying to inform the OP they may get backlash. I've gotten into arguments here on the Dis that pictures I've taken at youth sporting events in public parts I am allowed to post all I want. People were telling me I need to ask the parents of every kid in the picture. Nope, not gonna happen.

Imzadi · May 23, 2019

Lots of movies & TV shows film here in NYC. When people accidentally or on purpose walk though the area of street they are shooting, the producers have to get the person to sign a release saying that they give permission for their face & likeness to be used. Even the local news has to blur out some people's faces they didn't get permission to use. Doesn't matter if they are shot in a public place.

When I shoot photos of strangers for work, I always have to tell them that it's only used internally at work and the photos will never be posted on social media of any kind. Many people will not allow me to take their photos if they thought it would go on social media. And I've had people turn me down anyway as they don't believe me.

You have a photo of a minor. The parents may be angry or annoyed that you posted the photos instead of happy to get a copy. Think of all the celeb who are out in public with their kids. They are furious or feel invaded that their kids pics are posted/published everywhere.

snapppyd · May 23, 2019

Imzadi said:
Lots of movies & TV shows film here in NYC. When people accidentally or on purpose walk though the area of street they are shooting, the producers have to get the person to sign a release saying that they give permission for their face & likeness to be used. Even the local news has to blur out some people's faces they didn't get permission to use. Doesn't matter if they are shot in a public place.

When I shoot photos of strangers for work, I always have to tell them that it's only used internally at work and the photos will never be posted on social media of any kind. Many people will not allow me to take their photos if they thought it would go on social media. And I've had people turn me down anyway as they don't believe me.

You have a photo of a minor. The parents may be angry or annoyed that you posted the photos instead of happy to get a copy. Think of all the celeb who are out in public with their kids. They are furious or feel invaded that their kids pics are posted/published everywhere.

Her face if not visible. i don't think anyone but her parents would know it was "her".

BadPinkTink · May 23, 2019

I would err on the side of caution and NOT post the photo on the internet. In Europe, we have very strict laws on privacy, called GDPR. People are becoming more and more aware of their personal privacy and their digital footprint. Once a photo is on the internet, it is there forever, no going back.

For example, my sister and her husband signed forms at my nieces school to say that they do not want her photo posted on social media. Since the day my niece was born, they made the same request to friends and family, no photos of the child on social media.

Your personal views about posting photos on the internet may not be the same as this childs parents. The childs parents may be from a country where there are strict privacy laws.

MillauFr · May 23, 2019

I would post it. People should have no expectation of privacy in public.

tinkerbellandeeyor · May 23, 2019

My gym takes photos oand films classes all the time for promotions and I will say I have no problem with it more "clients" a better class choices but I don't remember signing anything

MillauFr · May 23, 2019

Imzadi said:
Lots of movies & TV shows film here in NYC. When people accidentally or on purpose walk though the area of street they are shooting, the producers have to get the person to sign a release saying that they give permission for their face & likeness to be used.

You don't have to get a release though. Otherwise the Paparazzi would be out of business.

luvsJack · May 23, 2019

Maybe you could try posting just a description and the date first? The parents may recognize the description. Sounds like a really cute picture and something the parents would love to have.

I am guessing its a digital picture? Could you perhaps post a part of it that might help them to recognize their child? Like just the rain coat, shoes, or umbrella?

Imzadi · May 23, 2019

snapppyd said:
Her face if not visible. i don't think anyone but her parents would know it was "her".

I get that. And I know you mean well. Yet, the parents dressed the kid that day and gave her the umbrella to carry. I assume they probably brought their own camera since they were on vacation. While they wouldn't have the angle you had, they have every opportunity to take pics of their own daughter in the red tutu with the Disney umbrella.

Instead a stranger took a photo. . . and posted it on social media. [Forget the part about doing it to find them.]

How does that sound to you?

I did see a news story of how a woman was snapping pics of the outside of a church. She saw a couple off to the side in an alcove. When the man knelt down in front of his partner, she realized she caught the moment he was proposing to the woman. She ran down and around to let them know she took their photo and would give it to them. But, she didn't make it over to them before they had walked away somewhere. She had that photo for 10 years before she decided to post it on Facebook to find them. She found them and it made the news. It was a sweet moment.

I don't have a problem with the situation above. Both of the people in the photo were adults. Personally, because your photo is of a minor, I wouldn't do it. It sounds like a potential keg of dynamite. You don't know how the parents are going to react. You know that saying, "No good deed goes unpunished." :duck:

You could describe the photo on FB. The parents would still recognize the description of their child.

Imzadi · May 23, 2019

MillauFr said:
You don't have to get a release though. Otherwise the Paparazzi would be out of business.

But the celeb parents are still furious about the photos being taken & published of their kid.

So, what's really the point here? Is the OP doing it for them? Or for herself, that she took a great photo?

snapppyd · May 23, 2019

Funny, I hesitated to post this because I was pretty sure I would get a response like the one above. I had no ulterior motive, I was not doing it for myself. never mind. I thought it would be nice for them to see. It was not a digital picture, I'm middle aged and old fashioned, still use a real camera. I'll move along now.

Imzadi · May 23, 2019

snapppyd said:
Funny, I hesitated to post this because I was pretty sure I would get a response like the one above. I had no ulterior motive, I was not doing it for myself. never mind. I thought it would be nice for them to see. It was not a digital picture, I'm middle aged and old fashioned, still use a real camera. I'll move along now.

TWO of us stated describe the photo. That doesn't seem to be enough for you. You want people to agree with you to post the photo.

luvsJack said:
Maybe you could try posting just a description and the date first? The parents may recognize the description. Sounds like a really cute picture and something the parents would love to have.

Imzadi said:
You could describe the photo on FB. The parents would still recognize the description of their child.

FlightlessDuck · May 23, 2019

While legal, I think this would come off as ... creepy.

Dan Murphy · May 23, 2019

Post is here, we'll let you know. :duck:

Cindy's Mom · May 23, 2019

Imzadi said:
Lots of movies & TV shows film here in NYC. When people accidentally or on purpose walk though the area of street they are shooting, the producers have to get the person to sign a release saying that they give permission for their face & likeness to be used. Even the local news has to blur out some people's faces they didn't get permission to use. Doesn't matter if they are shot in a public place.

When I shoot photos of strangers for work, I always have to tell them that it's only used internally at work and the photos will never be posted on social media of any kind. Many people will not allow me to take their photos if they thought it would go on social media. And I've had people turn me down anyway as they don't believe me.

You have a photo of a minor. The parents may be angry or annoyed that you posted the photos instead of happy to get a copy. Think of all the celeb who are out in public with their kids. They are furious or feel invaded that their kids pics are posted/published everywhere.

So in NYC, when a reporter is on the street and the masses huddle behind him or her, those people have to sign a release?

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