Cover your eyes!!!

[kimblebee]

Robert Kraft’s tapes are going to be released! They don’t have a date yet, but they will be released. They are being described as pornographic so hopefully it’s not just going to be floating around on Facebook and Twitter. We know they will be though..

*this is all being reported on CNN who had a reporter in the courtroom.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Robert Kraft’s tapes are going to be released! They don’t have a date yet, but they will be released. They are being described as pornographic so hopefully it’s not just going to be floating around on Facebook and Twitter. We know they will be though..

*this is all being reported on CNN who had a reporter in the courtroom.

I read the other day that one of the other people secretly taped is suing the police/investigators for civil rights violations.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...raft-sex-spa-case-sues-over-video/3441427002/

 

[soccerdad72]

Yeah, I don't know if anyone needs to see that.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Yeah, I don't know if anyone needs to see that.

Or should. I don't get why the OP seems so gleeful about it.

 

[DLgal]

Who is Robert Kraft?

 

[soccerdad72]

Who is Robert Kraft?

New England Patriots (NFL team) owner

 

[cvjw]

Or should. I don't get why the OP seems so gleeful about it.

Me either.

 

[kimblebee]

Or should. I don't get why the OP seems so gleeful about it.

Me either.

Not gleeful at all. There’s no lol or emojis. It’s just a warning.

 

[Nayan]

I don't think they'll release the whole thing, but enough of it to show (and prove) that it was him there. Maybe he'll reconsider that plea deal .

 

[Pea-n-Me]

New England Patriots (NFL team) owner

And friend of the president's.

 

[mumto3girls]

Ick! Sounds like something I will try to avoid seeing.

 

[cabanafrau]

I don't think they'll release the whole thing, but enough of it to show (and prove) that it was him there. Maybe he'll reconsider that plea deal .

I think that's exactly why prosecutors are insistent they will be releasing the tape, trying to apply enough pressure for a plea deal. I think having a conviction on his record, which is the outcome if he takes a plea, violates policies of the NFL.

As I understand it the person who has filed suit regarding the violation of being recorded was there for legitimate services. Prosecutors are being cagey about how many legitimate customers were taped doing nothing illegal at all. Some lawyers here think the prosecution has a ticking time bomb on their hands on these grounds.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Details of the civil suit and unlawful videotaping:

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profil...-up-video-that-allegedly-caught-robert-kraft/

The lawsuit, which was filed by a man going only by the name John Doe, claims that police violated his constitutional rights by recording him at the Orchids of Asia Day Spa without good cause.

“Defendants violated Mr. Doe’s constitutional rights on or around January 19, 2019, by spying on him while he was in a state of undress in a private massage room at a private spa facility, despite having failed to meet the constitutional requirements to secretly record him in such a private setting,” the complaint says. In addition to State Attorney David Aronberg and the Jupiter Police, the complaint also names as a defendant Detective Andrew Sharp, whose name appears on police records related to the investigation.

Kraft’s attorneys have floated the idea that the video used by police was not properly obtained. Doe’s lawsuit claims that police had a warrant, but still notes the circumstances of the camera’s surreptitious nature of the camera’s installation.

“On January 18, 2019, upon information and belief, the Jupiter Police caused a false ‘suspicious package’ warning to be issued for the Spa. Having evacuated the Spa, the Jupiter Police then entered and installed video monitoring equipment in rooms in which clients received massages, as well as the lobby, pursuant to a search warrant,” the complaint says, claiming that spa personnel were not made aware “of the issuance of the warrant or the placement of video recording equipment on its premises.”

The day after the camera was installed, Doe went to the Orchids of Asia Day Spa for a massage. “Mr. Doe did not engage in any sexual or illegal activity at any time while receiving his massage at the Spa,” the complaint says, stating that Doe had a reasonable expectation of privacy while he was getting undressed for his massage. Despite this expectation of privacy, Doe alleges, “Jupiter Police shared these recordings with other individuals and organizations pursuing or acting in parallel with” the investigation of the spa.

Doe included Aronberg in the lawsuit because he believes that his office unnecessarily included in a case file video of him and other spa customers who were not accused of crimes. While the video has not been made public yet, Doe is concerned that if this does happen, his privacy will be invaded even further. Kraft’s lawyers appeared in court on Friday to argue against the release of any video, claiming that details of the allegations against Kraft are already in police paperwork, and therefore showing the video to a jury or the public would just be “pornography.”

The lawsuit seeks unspecified monetary damages, as well as an injunction prohibiting the police and prosecutors from showing “any and all video, audio, photographic, or other recordings, or any images or other records derived from or based on recordings, made inside the Spa,” and ordering them to destroy all such material.

We all have cause to worry if they think this is ok and are just doing this to him because of who he is.

 

[Lehuaann]

What’s the point of releasing the video? There was no evidence of sex trafficking...and he apologized. This seems gross

 

[cabanafrau]

What’s the point of releasing the video? There was no evidence of sex trafficking...and he apologized. This seems gross

Have they ruled out sex trafficking?

IMO the point of prosecutors pushing to release the video is to pressure defendants to take a plea deal -- particularly if there is any doubt a court might potentially quash admittance of the video as evidence.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Have they ruled out sex trafficking?

IMO the point of prosecutors pushing to release the video is to pressure defendants to take a plea deal -- particularly if there is any doubt a court might potentially quash admittance of the video as evidence.

Yes, they have.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...es-spa-case/r6tNUIIixJEFpKGuNPZT9L/story.html

 

[Lehuaann]

Judge Stops Prosecutors From Releasing Kraft Surveillance Video for Now

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/17/sports/kraft-spa-video.amp.html

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Judge Stops Prosecutors From Releasing Kraft Surveillance Video for Now

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/17/sports/kraft-spa-video.amp.html

Just seeing that on the local news. Such a disappointment to some, I'm sure!

 

[okeydokey]

I can see showing the tapes during trial as evidence, but why would the general public need to see them in advance?

 

[kimblebee]

Just seeing that on the local news. Such a disappointment to some, I'm sure!

Not sure there’s too many people that want to see 80 year old ween but you never know..