As has been covered in this thread, by and large IBCCES is not verifying that the doctor's note is valid. They do ask for a doctor's name and a certain ID number (which IBCCES links to the database to find during the application process, so you don't need the doctor to provide it), but they aren't contacting the doctor in every application to ensure they wrote the note, or that the content of the note is valid.
At a minimum, it would likely be a PR nightmare that Disney doesn't want. They literally just added "inclusion" as a key. I personally know at least one other person who is having the exact same concerns with Disney and the exact same accommodations as my father at Universal. Can you see the headlines? "Orlando locals sue Disney after the parks refuse to continue providing needed accommodations. Both plaintiffs state that Universal is still meeting their needs."
My child is not autistic, but has a developmental disability. As a party of 3, her separating from the other parent for an extended period would cause additional issues. It's difficult to explain without giving others a roadmap to abuse, but she requires access to both of us for a variety of reasons. Even at home we don't typically do outings that are akin to theme park outings without both of us going.
They weathered the same thing when they discontinued the GAC and then blew the plaintiffs out of the water in the lawsuit, which was also based on Disney taking away what the plaintiffs claimed were needed accommodations.
Me? Nothing. I don't use DAS. My father? Everything. Reread my many comments in this thread and others, where I've explained his exact conditions. Being confined in a line is agonizing, and if he has to do it for more than about 20 minutes, he's done not only for the day but for the next day as well. If he leaves the line, it's to go home and collapse.
No different than when the GAC was taken away.
That suit was entirely different. First, it was based on autism, not physical disabilities. Second, they did away with GAC for everyone, not just people with the plaintiffs' specific condition. Third, Universal wasn't placed front and center in both the lawsuit and the media coverage. Fourth, the plaintiffs DID accomplish something in the long run, because Disney is now centering autism as the one group that will continue to get DAS.
Well said!
I can only speak for myself.
Lets see...how about having a Crohns immediate need for a bathroom while on an ECV because you also have COPD? Do you have an "accident" or take the chance of injuring people trying to escape the line? Do you choose the accident and stink up the line so no one can enjoy it? Do you sit in it so that your skin gets burned? Those are the choices for someone with both. Can't leave the scooter because my oxygen is on it and I can't walk too far either.
Initially ocurrs =/= Initially diagnosed.
Finally someone who understands! Add to that a husband who has a battery/controller running the left side of his heart, and a son who can't get any remission on his Crohns, has a past perforation a prolapse. We're a nightmare!Well said!
And agree
I can only speak for myself.
This is how I do any ride with DAS:
Request a return time.
When my return window open I hang around the nearest bathroom to the ride.
I wait until I go (since I'm going every 45-60 min thats not a problem).
After my bathroom brake I have a good chance that I can do the ride safely. So I hope in the LL. And hope for the best.
Walking around or sitting around the park is much more easier to get to a bathroom on time.
If you were in a line which is narrow and maze like especially in a wheelchair you can easily imagine how difficult and how long would it take to get out of that line and get to the bathroom on time.
Before my disease (and based on my family) when I felt I need a bathroom I was able to hold it back at least for 20 min sometimes even hours. And with a healthy people number 2 is usually well formed, solid.
Someone with IDB number 2 is usually liquid can come with a tons of blood. Extremely difficult to hold it back.
Imagine when someone has an accident like that in the line! It would be very disturbing and humiliating! If someone never had an accident as an adult can't even imagine it.
The get back to line might be option for a healthy person but for someone who is emptying their bowel at least hourly not so much.
Unless the line is 30 min. In that case it might work. But if the line is hours long that can mean several out and back to the line "travel".
During a week long holiday it is very possible that a healthy person need to leave the line once...
An IDB person probably would have to leave every line which is longer than 45 min. Even multiple times if it's a longer line.
That is just 1 person (me ) experience.
As I said everyone has different needs.
Also anxiety triggers our symptoms and believe me getting in a long line or just to get from point A to B in any kind of life situation is a struggle. Ie I can't use public transport at all! I can only travel by our car (I have a portable toilet in the back).
I hope this answer your question why "get back in line" option is not suitable for every bathroom needs.
I was typing out a response to a different comment and then got sidetracked.
-Disney is constantly in crosshairs of everything. This is no different.
Basically? I don't work, because I can't. DD's schedule of therapies doesn't allow it, at least currently. Everything I made would be paying for a caregiver to take her to what I do. We don't have family in the area. We don't have respite. Medicaid waivers are a cluster in our state. The reasons she needs both of us at WDW are unique to the theme park environment, and the only other place it's an issue for us constantly is medical appointments, esp. things like xrays. Those require both of us.
The disability involved was irrelevant - guests with a disability sued because an accommodation they said they needed was taken away, which is the same basis someone with a physical disability would claim if they chose to sue over DAS being taken away from them.
OK cool. Then all the people who genuinely NEED DAS switch over to Universal. Disney gets a massive black eye, and hopefully they finally wake up to the fact that giving lip service to disabilities (the inclusion key) isn't enough to pull them out of the spiral. Meanwhile, at least they're screwing everyone over equally rather than giving preferential treatment to one group.
