Do you have a medical marijuana card?

:flower3: A very happy ending - thanks for sharing that part. As to the other - it strikes me as just bizarre and outrageous. If you don't mind, what is the penalty for smoking marijuana and/or possessing quantities for personal use? Here, although we are moving rapidly towards full legalization, it has been decriminalized for many years. A prescription is required for medical use, but I can hardly imagine it's worth fussing about given the very low risk of any kind of serious repercussion.

That all just depends on how much and where you are caught with it .. if your inside your home and not out bothering anyone the chances are low but I would think the problem is having to buy it off someone .. it’s not illegal to “ be high “ it’s illegal to have possession. I know for me I need to be legal for my peace of mind , but I definitely don’t judge people that are forced to find it other ways .. in my own personal opinion it works and I know it HAS to be better then multiple types of RX pain meds .
 
Actually again here in Florida LE does have a test they can do but it’s a trained visual test but very effective, my husband had to take a course in it , but yes easy to get from just about anywhere .. best to be legal

There is also a cheek-swab field test that is being rolled out in pilot programs here in Michigan, and from what I've read, across the country. It still isn't perfect - it can pick up use from the previous day in some cases - but paired with behavioral observation measures it seems to be a viable alternative to just not knowing, or to relying on after-the-fact urine testing that can pick up weeks-old use.

I don't have one and am very thankful not to have a need.

A very close friend needed one during a recent bout with cancer. Her oncologist made the recommendation and his office completed the doctor portion of the application. The State contacted my friend via letter, claiming something on one page was not filled out. My friend knew it was, contacted the State and was told they needed the doctor to re-do that part of the form. The staff at the doctor's office knew it was thoroughly and properly filled out and gave my friend a runaround. It wasn't sorted until my friend's next appt. with the doc where he was surprised to find she hadn't tried using for relief because of the snafu. Staff was told in no uncertain terms to provide her with the document immediately. She mailed it to the State. She received another letter back, telling her they had to reject her application because in the interim her driver's license had since expired because it was due for renewal at her birthday that occurred between sending in the original forms and the second from the doctor's office. She already had renewed her license in that timeframe and sent them a copy -- despite the fact that the clerk at the State admitted she knew the license had been renewed because she was able to look it up in the State database as a State employee. I've since learned that my friend's experience is not unique in the slightest.

I work in the court system. Those who are on parole or probation are restricted from use of drugs or alcohol as terms of parole/probation. 99.999% of those on parole or probation have Medical Marijuana cards, about the same ratio for parents with kids in the foster care system who are ostensibly working to reunite with their children.

In Michigan if you are a law abiding citizen you will be hassled and obstructed from receiving a medical marijuana card. If you have a criminal record, blaze away with the State's blessing.

Edited because I've realized I now cannot select the correct do/due/dew for the appropriate circumstance.

Her mistake was going to her doctor. I have a friend who had a similarly bad experience trying to get his card through his primary doctor. But one visit to one of those med-card specialists that advertises in the 'alternative' newspaper and he had it in a single try. The state has played so many games with changing forms, requirements, documentation rules, etc. that only the specialists seem to be up on the methods that work reliably.

Of course, with the new licensing system they're rolling out there's basically no value to the card anyway. In a year and a half since the new rules went into effect, they haven't issued a single dispensary license and have started issuing cease-and-desist notices to those operating without one. It is starting to look like they're going to use the regulatory process to essentially negate the referendum that legalized medicinal pot by closing down "unlicensed" dispensaries while not allowing any licenses to be issued.
 
There is also a cheek-swab field test that is being rolled out in pilot programs here in Michigan, and from what I've read, across the country. It still isn't perfect - it can pick up use from the previous day in some cases - but paired with behavioral observation measures it seems to be a viable alternative to just not knowing, or to relying on after-the-fact urine testing that can pick up weeks-old use.



Her mistake was going to her doctor. I have a friend who had a similarly bad experience trying to get his card through his primary doctor. But one visit to one of those med-card specialists that advertises in the 'alternative' newspaper and he had it in a single try. The state has played so many games with changing forms, requirements, documentation rules, etc. that only the specialists seem to be up on the methods that work reliably.

Of course, with the new licensing system they're rolling out there's basically no value to the card anyway. In a year and a half since the new rules went into effect, they haven't issued a single dispensary license and have started issuing cease-and-desist notices to those operating without one. It is starting to look like they're going to use the regulatory process to essentially negate the referendum that legalized medicinal pot by closing down "unlicensed" dispensaries while not allowing any licenses to be issued.

That’s crazy ! They have had good luck with lawsuits against the state so it’s at some point there will probably be one in that situation.
 
I have a bottle of that and unfortunately after years of RX meds it does very little but possibly combined with the low THC it would work well .. I’m willing to try what I can to end the meds cycle..

First - not a doctor.

But just reading through your posts it seems like you could be experiencing OIH. Have you discussed tapering off the meds with your doctor to see if it provides pain relief?
 


First - not a doctor.

But just reading through your posts it seems like you could be experiencing OIH. Have you discussed tapering off the meds with your doctor to see if it provides pain relief?

No , I have some pretty horrible health issues with significant injuries.. unfortunately those will continue and I will be depending on some type of med to “ manage “ .
 
There is also a cheek-swab field test that is being rolled out in pilot programs here in Michigan, and from what I've read, across the country. It still isn't perfect - it can pick up use from the previous day in some cases - but paired with behavioral observation measures it seems to be a viable alternative to just not knowing, or to relying on after-the-fact urine testing that can pick up weeks-old use.



Her mistake was going to her doctor. I have a friend who had a similarly bad experience trying to get his card through his primary doctor. But one visit to one of those med-card specialists that advertises in the 'alternative' newspaper and he had it in a single try. The state has played so many games with changing forms, requirements, documentation rules, etc. that only the specialists seem to be up on the methods that work reliably.

Of course, with the new licensing system they're rolling out there's basically no value to the card anyway. In a year and a half since the new rules went into effect, they haven't issued a single dispensary license and have started issuing cease-and-desist notices to those operating without one. It is starting to look like they're going to use the regulatory process to essentially negate the referendum that legalized medicinal pot by closing down "unlicensed" dispensaries while not allowing any licenses to be issued.

This was not her PCP, this was her oncologist, who recommended strongly she get the card and handed her the prepared paperwork for the first time when he raised the issue with her because he wanted her set up when the chemo started especially because the initial rounds he was using are so rough . From what I've heard most reputable PCPs in the metro area do not get involved in issuing cards. Obviously there are plenty of docs in the area issuing the paperwork with ease judging by what I've seen going on in literally hundreds of court cases. Friends in the probation department tell me inevitably the docs behind the applications for the cards they see are not affiliated with any area hospitals.
 


I am now curious.
The assistant at the Eye Specialist gave us info on this CBD oil product.
PlusCBDoil distributed by CV sciences.
She said her mother is recommending this, not for the glaucoma, but the other general benefits, pain etc...

Does anyone here have any insight on this company/product?
 
I use CBD oil for chronic pain. There are different varieties some which have THC and others with only CBD. I use a combo for sleeping and CBD only during the day for pain control. I am on high amounts of morphine for pain and I am trying to wean myself off of it. I work from home so no issues with driving under the influence and the CBD oil does not have a “high”. I’m in Canada and have a medical exemption and order it online from a reputable distributor.
 
You’re correct
Your opinion will not be popular here

This is a positive thread helping others to gather info that will help them
Many have chronic pain and need advice
 
You’re correct
Your opinion will not be popular here

This is a positive thread helping others to gather info that will help them
Many have chronic pain and need advice

I think you may have misread my post. Adult people that are ill and it works for them that's a beautiful thing, or marijuana for children without THC, I am absolutely all for it and said so. I don't think it's safe for all tho, and care should be taken, that was my point, not to attack marijuana. I am actually a supporter but I believe there needs to be warnings at least, etc. and is particularly bad for teens whose brains have not developed. I've seen it cause problems, personal and severe mental health issues in several people. BUT maybe I should have put that in another thread, so I will take off. It's just personal bc I've seen it hurt some people close to me. Didn't mean it negative, knowing the risks of any drug I would think a good thing. Agree that medical marijuana if it works for you and you are an adult, or for children without the THC, agree is a good thing. I myself have used CBD oil products, having migraines, didn't notice much help from it personally but it if works, great. Just marijuana with THC is not totally safe for all, and just be aware.
 
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The one time I did not copy a thread before it was edited
You removed things which were the reason I posted my opinion
But not an issue when someone wants to change their post
 
OH I have some questions.... my mother is 67 and has never done pot. hardly drinks too.. She has cataracts and issue with eye pressure and glaucoma.. Also has issues with vertigo and instability. I was reading that pot can help with this. she has been to many Drs. takes eye drops etc.. but her vertido has no real cause to treat medically. I was reading that pot has been proven benefical here.

Has anyone any experience with this? Also I believe you can get pot in droplet form too? My mom is not smoking anything!! any one more question: does one get high when taking drop form? I can see that being an issue with my mom.. she has never been hight.. but we are curious. I view pot as a herbal treatment. It's about time we get rid of the stigma.
 
I actually have pretty significant true Vertigo.
(not a fear of heights at all, but the neurological thing, central vertigo)
I have never heard of this being used for vertigo before? But would be very interested if anyone here had any info.

This keeps me from doing some things, like certain things on vacations.
If we cruise Greece, I just don't know how I am going to manage those Cable-Cars that you have to use to get onto Santorini!!!

And, would love to hear if anyone is familiar with that maker of CBD oil, or can recommend an excellent product that is legal to be mail-ordered.

Mousefan, CBD oil would not have the 'high'.
There are products that do contain more THC, and would probably have that.
These would probably be illegal or regulated as medical marijuana, depending on the State.
 
I’m in Canada so only know of the companies here. There are different varieties of the CBD oil. The 2 I use are 10-10 and 1-20. The 10-10 has about 10% THC & 10% CBD. This one does cause a “high” feeling. The 1-20 has 1% THC & 20% CBD, this one I do not feel any high with, just good pain relief. Because it’s an oil you don’t need to smoke or inhale it you can just injest it. The oils I get came with a medicine dropper and I just measure it oil and swallow it down, there is a bit of a taste to it so I have drink of milk following it. As far as amount to use the suggestion of the company pharmacist is to start low and go slow. I started use 0.1ml and worked my way up making sure to use the same amount for a couple of days before staying or increasing. If you don’t like the taste of the oil you can mix it with something like yogurt or applesauce.
 
The one time I did not copy a thread before it was edited
You removed things which were the reason I posted my opinion
But not an issue when someone wants to change their post

Macraven, I removed the specifics of the people I know that were badly affected by it, but the gist of my post is the same. I started the post with stating I agree with medical marijuana use including for adults and children when they take out the THC. But I then went on to put specific points about people I know that had very serious issues with it including my brother's wife's son who is in his 20s and just recently started hearing voices. I also put on my brother had issues of extreme paranoia but no longer smokes. Again I agree with it for many adults, not teens, or children without THC, but think it can be dangerous for some and that is also important to know. I know you are a moderator and was veering off topic I guess.
 
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I actually have pretty significant true Vertigo.
(not a fear of heights at all, but the neurological thing, central vertigo)
I have never heard of this being used for vertigo before? But would be very interested if anyone here had any info.

This keeps me from doing some things, like certain things on vacations.
If we cruise Greece, I just don't know how I am going to manage those Cable-Cars that you have to use to get onto Santorini!!!

And, would love to hear if anyone is familiar with that maker of CBD oil, or can recommend an excellent product that is legal to be mail-ordered.

Mousefan, CBD oil would not have the 'high'.
There are products that do contain more THC, and would probably have that.
These would probably be illegal or regulated as medical marijuana, depending on the State.
Studies show potential with tinnitus and Meniere’s ( extreme motion stuff i believe) google. I need to look more into this too. My mom has mainly circulatory issues and it affects her eyes and that is most likely the instability. Not true vertigo but an unbalance. She has gluscoma too
 
I use CBD oil for chronic pain. There are different varieties some which have THC and others with only CBD. I use a combo for sleeping and CBD only during the day for pain control. I am on high amounts of morphine for pain and I am trying to wean myself off of it. I work from home so no issues with driving under the influence and the CBD oil does not have a “high”. I’m in Canada and have a medical exemption and order it online from a reputable distributor.

I just started using mine , I got the CBD and the indica , one wow .. that indica will have to be a nighttime only lol but how long and how often will it take using the CBD to feel results ?
 
I just started using mine , I got the CBD and the indica , one wow .. that indica will have to be a nighttime only lol but how long and how often will it take using the CBD to feel results ?

I felt results the first time I used it. The 10-10 that I use at night seems to take about 2 hours to get to the best use, so I take it 2 hours before bed. The 1-20 seems to kick in within about one hour and lasts for 3-4 hours. So once I start feeling the slight swingers I take another dose. The thing that was somewhat of a pain was finding my optimal dose but now that I know it’s much easier.

Now for me the trouble is to decrease the high doses hydromorphone I’m on. I need to be weaned off the hydromorphone (my doctor feels I may need to be hospitalized when we are ready to drop it as the withdrawal will be very hard because of the doses and the number of years I’ve been on it) and will need to slowly increase the CBD oil. In the end I hope to be able to use just CBD oil for my chronic pain. I’ve been traveling this CBD oil path for almost 2 years, with a history of chronic pain going back over 20 years starting with endometriosis when I was just 18. The pain meds have screwed up my stomach bad and I sure would like to have better stomach health as well.

Good luck! You can reply anytime and I’ll do my best to answer your questions. I hope this helps you.
 

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