Good/Bad Internet and eBay Pin Sellers

pixiewings71

<marquee><font color=deeppink>Sweet!!! Totally!!!!
Joined
Jun 8, 2007
If you look at retiredreadingspecialists feedback as a buyer, you will see she buys big lots from known scrapper dealers.
I didn't look at that either. I would highly suggest she goes on the bad seller list then. :( Bummer, our good sellers are turning to the dark side. LOL
 
  • dr_zero

    VMK Ultracoolmouse
    Joined
    Oct 1, 2007
    I have to give props to Pinpointe again we are taking a unexpected trip to disney and my daughter has misplaced her pins and was very upset (re painting her room).
    Well I got ahold of Pinpointe and was able to get an order sent and it will be here today in time for our trip tommorow! :thumbsup2 :worship: :hug:

    Really sweet person and a dream to do business with! :thumbsup2
     

    debranator

    earless
    Joined
    Aug 5, 2010
    I have to give props to Pinpointe again we are taking a unexpected trip to disney and my daughter has misplaced her pins and was very upset (re painting her room).
    Well I got ahold of Pinpointe and was able to get an order sent and it will be here today in time for our trip tommorow! :thumbsup2 :worship: :hug:

    Really sweet person and a dream to do business with! :thumbsup2
    She may be sweet...
    she may be just wonderful and ship like a speed demon.
    But..SHE SELLS FAKE PINS!!!!!!!!!!:scared1::scared1::scared1::scared1:
    I looked her up..
    If you look at her one little negative...
    not only does she sell scrappers..
    but..she gets nasty when called on it.:eek:..
    unfortunately..right now...there are many scrapper sellers on the green list...
    so...you have to do a bit of digging.
     

    PurpleTurtle

    Mouseketeer
    Joined
    May 1, 2008
    Thanks for all of this information. Because I don't want to buy fake pins/scrappers/etc. I went ahead and bought straight from Disney. I got a couple sets on clearance from DisneyStore.com for 6.99 for 4 pins. I also went to our local Disney Store outlet and got a bunch for 1.99 and 2.99 per pin. I feel a lot better about this than buying a bunch for super cheap and then having to worry about whether I'm contributing to the problem.
     

    debranator

    earless
    Joined
    Aug 5, 2010
    Thanks for all of this information. Because I don't want to buy fake pins/scrappers/etc. I went ahead and bought straight from Disney. I got a couple sets on clearance from DisneyStore.com for 6.99 for 4 pins. I also went to our local Disney Store outlet and got a bunch for 1.99 and 2.99 per pin. I feel a lot better about this than buying a bunch for super cheap and then having to worry about whether I'm contributing to the problem.
    And..that is about the same price... that you will pay for real pins from a good seller on Ebay.
    But, if you are paying less...:confused3
     
  • dr_zero

    VMK Ultracoolmouse
    Joined
    Oct 1, 2007
    She may be sweet...
    she may be just wonderful and ship like a speed demon.
    But..SHE SELLS FAKE PINS!!!!!!!!!!:scared1::scared1::scared1::scared1:
    I looked her up..
    If you look at her one little negative...
    not only does she sell scrappers..
    but..she gets nasty when called on it.:eek:..
    unfortunately..right now...there are many scrapper sellers on the green list...
    so...you have to do a bit of digging.

    I had one pin that was an issue and she took care of it when she was made aware of it. The other pins I did cross check and all seemed to be fine, the only other scrapper I have got was a trade in the park with a CM.

    I do not know the details or the validity of others claims I can only speak from my personal experience with the person and she has done right by me. :thumbsup2
     

    pixiewings71

    <marquee><font color=deeppink>Sweet!!! Totally!!!!
    Joined
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    I had one pin that was an issue and she took care of it when she was made aware of it. The other pins I did cross check and all seemed to be fine, the only other scrapper I have got was a trade in the park with a CM.

    I do not know the details or the validity of others claims I can only speak from my personal experience with the person and she has done right by me. :thumbsup2
    Unfortunately I have to agree with Deb, this seller has 4 pages of auctions, they are all 20 pin lots. I would not purchase from this seller as too many times auctions/listings like this are indicative of scrappers. Actually, I shouldn't say I wouldn't buy from them, I would to test the theory that they were selling scrappers so I could post here, unfortunately I can't do that now because I lost my job in June and have been unable to find another one. :) So no extra pin money for me. :) I am glad that your transaction was satisfactory but I would strongly caution others to be aware of the strong possibility of scrappers being received. :)
     

    Melisande

    Mouseketeer
    Joined
    Aug 22, 2010
    I have some info compiled in my other thread:

    http://disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2141715

    I didn't post the 'bad' sellers because in the larger e-bay thread people were calling it a 'witch hunt' when people posted the names of sellers who sold scrappers.

    I think we should post whatever information we have so that others don't make the mistake of spending money on scrapper pins.

    Here are the names of scrapper/questionable sellers from the old thread. Please remember that I've only had an experience with one seller.

    tradepinsforyou
    nannub
    bibbidi_bobbidi_boo_colectibles
    shells7pak
    tecarroll1964

    Questionable:
    gordo1111
    Tooninterior



    Uh nope Gordo1111 is complete bad. Hiddeous. Foul. Move them to red. I ordered specific pins. All 4 were very clear scrappers when you held them up and looked horrizontially at the pin carefully. Uneven and scratched. They like to say their used and oh they trade for the stuff regularly at Disney but the husbands unemployed or something. Yeah that sounds real believable. These are pins I would have never traded for my personal collection. I can not imagine that someone running a business for real would have kept those to sell. Real character this one is. Especially when the business seems to be run by the husband until you have a complaint but whatever.
     

    petals

    Irish Princess because Cinderella said so!
    Joined
    May 18, 2010
    just to let you all know out of recent buys on ebay both woodchipboy and crazychick_kb sent scrappers
     
  • debranator

    earless
    Joined
    Aug 5, 2010
    just to let you all know out of recent buys on ebay both woodchipboy and crazychick_kb sent scrappers
    :hippie:Hi,i hate to say this..
    but,when you are sent an obvious scrapper....
    unless the seller bent over backwards..and gave you the pin...:lmao:
    please..leave a negative for that seller..not a neutral...
    as..you cannot see a neutral in the numbers percentage...
    and..other buyers..will not know..that you were sent a fake..
    I learned that lesson the hard way..
    a few years ago..I bought what was listed as a brand new handbag with tags.
    It was not..it was old,scratched..and fake.
    But,when I wrote her..and she acted so nice and wonderful...
    and..all her feedback was positive.
    So...I did nothing..left her good feedback..
    and I thought I was being a good person..
    and...that was that.
    about a month ago..I happened upon one of her listings...
    and..I glanced at her feedback...
    it seems that she has made a habit out of selling old garbage...
    and..acting nice..about it.:rolleyes:
    So now..if something is really wrong..unless I get a full refund...
    I let the world know.
     

    Castle Shadow

    Earning My Ears
    Joined
    Dec 28, 2010
    i have some names to add to the list i havent seen yet.

    yourwdwstore.net-green list
    thepinconnection-green list
    pinscout203-green

    all of these i had great experiences with and have received all legit pins, especially the first two.
    yourwdwstore.net sells legitimate pins, but they sell them as much as 3x the original cost. For example, they are selling a Not So Scary pin for 29.95 (before the ship charge) that was only 9.95 at the Not So Scary parties. They bought it for 7.96.
     

    petals

    Irish Princess because Cinderella said so!
    Joined
    May 18, 2010
    :hippie:Hi,i hate to say this..
    but,when you are sent an obvious scrapper....
    unless the seller bent over backwards..and gave you the pin...:lmao:
    please..leave a negative for that seller..not a neutral...
    as..you cannot see a neutral in the numbers percentage...
    and..other buyers..will not know..that you were sent a fake..
    I learned that lesson the hard way..
    a few years ago..I bought what was listed as a brand new handbag with tags.
    It was not..it was old,scratched..and fake.
    But,when I wrote her..and she acted so nice and wonderful...
    and..all her feedback was positive.
    So...I did nothing..left her good feedback..
    and I thought I was being a good person..
    and...that was that.
    about a month ago..I happened upon one of her listings...
    and..I glanced at her feedback...
    it seems that she has made a habit out of selling old garbage...
    and..acting nice..about it.:rolleyes:
    So now..if something is really wrong..unless I get a full refund...
    I let the world know.
    I leave negatives for ones that are obvious scrappers and neutrals for ones I suspect. Pins from Woodchipboy and the other seler I mentioned had dimples in the paint and were the wrong colour though
     

    trixiedixie

    Earning My Ears
    Joined
    Dec 28, 2010
    Check the feedback as buyer on ebay and many people will surprise you on where they are getting their pins. Several sellers I thought were good and are on this green list to buy from are buying huge scrapping lots. So apparently their mode is to buy huge lots of scrappers then steal good hidden mickeys in trading. I always knew you had to beware of scrappers, but I never thought people would buy scrappers, then go to the parks and trade for good pins, then sell good pins suposedly keeping reputation intact. I know several major scrappers also sell individual pins, so this method of finding scrappers isnt foolproof, esp when detailed information about a purchase is over 90 days old and isnt shown. But you can also look at known scrappers feedback as sellers and see several names that shocked me as they were green and also are known to see original pins on original cardbacks. Many I thought, well maybe they just bought one pin (remember details are gone) only to see their feedback as great pins!

    If I need to send a pm to someone with the information Ive gathered I will. My saved sellars list went from about 30 to about 20 based on this information. You are right about retired reading specialist but it is like debranator said many on green are scrapping.

    Very very discouraging.

    So how do you complete your HM's and not get stuck with scrappers?
     

    brightvalleyjrts

    DIS Veteran
    Joined
    Dec 29, 2007
    I am just getting into buying pins for my boys for our next trip. I have bought a few from a seller on Ebay and have been happy, but have no idea if they are "good" pins or not. I wasn't aware there were bad pins out there.

    Has anyone bought from the seller "Mr. Disneycollector" ??? Like I said, I have been very happy with my pins so far and the seller is pretty local to me which means they ship to me superduper fast. I was just making sure before I bought a bunch more :)
     

    debranator

    earless
    Joined
    Aug 5, 2010
    I am just getting into buying pins for my boys for our next trip. I have bought a few from a seller on Ebay and have been happy, but have no idea if they are "good" pins or not. I wasn't aware there were bad pins out there.

    Has anyone bought from the seller "Mr. Disneycollector" ??? Like I said, I have been very happy with my pins so far and the seller is pretty local to me which means they ship to me superduper fast. I was just making sure before I bought a bunch more :)
    Do you know the easiest way to check out a seller?
    It does not work all the time..of course..
    but in the case of this seller..it does.
    Read his feedback..
    I mean..read the neutrals and the negatives.
    I read all bad,neutral..and..very important...revised feedback...
    then,
    I look at the feedback of folks that left the bad feedback..
    to see if they are competitors..vicious....or..just..unaware.
    I look to see what kind of feedback they leave..for other sellers.
    and..in the case of your seller..
    I would not touch him..with a ten foot pole.
    Too many folks..who sell real pins..
    have called him a scrapper.
    I have never to my knowledge bought a scrapper pin that was individual...
    but..it seems..that is what he has done.
    Also..a key to gauging it is....
    the price a seller is asking for LE pins.
    He has 50 of them listed with a 99. cent starting bid...
    He has sold thousands of LE pins for 3 bucks and less.
    And..it is the cheap LE pins..that buyers are calling fakes in his feedback.
    Another strange thing is.......
    He has all those complaints..and..perfect 100% feedback numbers.
    But....very important..he does not have the gold star.
    Now..they give out that badge to tons of crooks..so..why..
    does he not have it?
    I will tell you a little known secret...
    If a seller has perfect feedback..and almost or perfect stars....
    and..he does not have that dumb gold ebay seal...[and yes...:laughing:..I have one]...
    there is only one reason..
    and that is....
    He has too many opened paypal and ebay disputes against him.
    Because..even if you settle a dispute..
    if more than 2% of buyers file a case....
    you lose..your gold badge.
    Good luck..
    with a bit of investigating..you will be able to find a good seller.:wizard:
     

    brightvalleyjrts

    DIS Veteran
    Joined
    Dec 29, 2007
    Do you know the easiest way to check out a seller?
    It does not work all the time..of course..
    but in the case of this seller..it does.
    Read his feedback..
    I mean..read the neutrals and the negatives.
    I read all bad,neutral..and..very important...revised feedback...
    then,
    I look at the feedback of folks that left the bad feedback..
    to see if they are competitors..vicious....or..just..unaware.
    I look to see what kind of feedback they leave..for other sellers.
    and..in the case of your seller..
    I would not touch him..with a ten foot pole.
    Too many folks..who sell real pins..
    have called him a scrapper.
    I have never to my knowledge bought a scrapper pin that was individual...
    but..it seems..that is what he has done.
    Also..a key to gauging it is....
    the price a seller is asking for LE pins.
    He has 50 of them listed with a 99. cent starting bid...
    He has sold thousands of LE pins for 3 bucks and less.
    And..it is the cheap LE pins..that buyers are calling fakes in his feedback.
    Another strange thing is.......
    He has all those complaints..and..perfect 100% feedback numbers.
    But....very important..he does not have the gold star.
    Now..they give out that badge to tons of crooks..so..why..
    does he not have it?
    I will tell you a little known secret...
    If a seller has perfect feedback..and almost or perfect stars....
    and..he does not have that dumb gold ebay seal...[and yes...:laughing:..I have one]...
    there is only one reason..
    and that is....
    He has too many opened paypal and ebay disputes against him.
    Because..even if you settle a dispute..
    if more than 2% of buyers file a case....
    you lose..your gold badge.
    Good luck..
    with a bit of investigating..you will be able to find a good seller.:wizard:
    Thank you so much for the info!! I will be looking for a new seller to buy from :) I appreciate you looking into him for me!!
     

    trixiedixie

    Earning My Ears
    Joined
    Dec 28, 2010
    Do you know the easiest way to check out a seller?
    It does not work all the time..of course..
    but in the case of this seller..it does.
    Read his feedback..
    I mean..read the neutrals and the negatives.
    I read all bad,neutral..and..very important...revised feedback...
    then,
    I look at the feedback of folks that left the bad feedback..
    to see if they are competitors..vicious....or..just..unaware.
    I look to see what kind of feedback they leave..for other sellers.
    and..in the case of your seller..
    I would not touch him..with a ten foot pole.
    Too many folks..who sell real pins..
    have called him a scrapper.
    I have never to my knowledge bought a scrapper pin that was individual...
    but..it seems..that is what he has done.
    Also..a key to gauging it is....
    the price a seller is asking for LE pins.
    He has 50 of them listed with a 99. cent starting bid...
    He has sold thousands of LE pins for 3 bucks and less.
    And..it is the cheap LE pins..that buyers are calling fakes in his feedback.
    Another strange thing is.......
    He has all those complaints..and..perfect 100% feedback numbers.
    But....very important..he does not have the gold star.
    Now..they give out that badge to tons of crooks..so..why..
    does he not have it?
    I will tell you a little known secret...
    If a seller has perfect feedback..and almost or perfect stars....
    and..he does not have that dumb gold ebay seal...[and yes...:laughing:..I have one]...
    there is only one reason..
    and that is....
    He has too many opened paypal and ebay disputes against him.
    Because..even if you settle a dispute..
    if more than 2% of buyers file a case....
    you lose..your gold badge.
    Good luck..
    with a bit of investigating..you will be able to find a good seller.:wizard:
    To me he was obvious b just what he had in the store as debranator described..I wrote him off before he made it to my feedback check stage
    - but remember I was burned by retiredreading specialist - sweet as she is - this summer, badly to the tune of I dont know $250 dollars because she was/is ? listed in green. I didnt know they were bootleggers and we traded them. They were obviously better quality than cf whatever from MiamiDisney pins that we got our money back from and mouse somebody who was green and know is yellow that sent broken pins. I didnt realize reading specialist was scrapping till I went to buy pins for Christmas and found the recent posts in Nov Dec on this thread.

    Rule of thumb - assume they all are scrappers/bootlegs until they prove you wrong by their store selection and prices, types of pins and feedback as sellar AND as buyer. Many are buying bootlegs online as buyers and then trading for real pins...then they sell the real pins to you, but they got them with illegal pins.

    There are very good sellars on ebay but they are surrounded by crooks.
     

    trixiedixie

    Earning My Ears
    Joined
    Dec 28, 2010
    Ummm yes, clearly I "get it"......you have 2 posts here, why the confrontational post? I don't buy from 423, shells7, jeffy, I haven't bought from thewill for quite some time but when I did buy from him I checked his buyer FB and did not notice p&p listed. I don't buy from CFC or dopey either, I believe out of all the ones you listed only thewill was a green listed seller.........
    eBay won't stop people from selling pins on eBay, that's why this thread is here, to help those who want to buy on eBay avoid scrappers. Of course it's clearly stated in many posts in this thread that the only way to guarantee your pins are 100% legit is to buy them yourself from Disney, unfortunately some of us can't do that so we have to find sellers on eBay to buy from.
    Please come and share your experiences with us but please don't speak down to us as there are quite a few of us who are very knowledgeable on this thread. :) Thanks for the new name, we will be sure to add ygpins to the red list. :)
    The pins we just bought from will appear good. We bought several in the summer on original pin card backs and the sku numbers matched perfectly on over 20 pins. He currently as feedback as buyer hasnt bought any from known scrappers in the last year that I saw.....
    hes one of the few I did keep on my list as a saved seller.......so I dont know what to believe
     

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