Iphone XS or XR

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I have read reviews online and looked at the specs, but I'm still stumped. I have to go get one at the apple store pretty soon. It's a Christmas present for my college-aged kid. Seems like the deal breaker is the screen... LCD vs. OLED. DO I care about this? Why?

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
The XR is bigger than the XS and cheaper. If they would prefer a bigger phone get the XR (or the XS max I supposed). For me the fact that the XR was even bigger than the XS was a deal breaker and I didn't consider it. Even the XS is too big for me haha.
 
I read a review a few weeks ago and the one good thing about the XR (which is cheaper) is that it apparently has a great battery life.
 


I have the XS Max and I love it. I was very hesitant due to the cost, but knew I'd regret it if I went with a cheaper one to save a couple bucks a month.

What phone does your kid have today? If they have an iPhone Plus, they'll be used to a certain size phone and may prefer that. Its hard to go backwards once you have had a Plus phone. I also suspect a college age person spends an ample amount of time on their phone, with it getting much use and love. Because of that, I would lean towards the better one so they have the best of what's available. And if they are a tech person, they'd likely prefer that too.
 
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This article might be helpful for you. I wanted to just link it, but it is from the Washington Post which has a paywall for non-subscribers:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/tech...-ever-saved-new-phone/?utm_term=.a65a36273122

Lately, Apple has made shopping for an iPhone complicated. So let me simplify: If you’re in the market for an upgrade, buy the iPhone XR.

I don’t blame anyone who’s been holding on to an old iPhone 6, 6S or 7. The data shows people are waiting longer and longer to upgrade, with good reason: Phones haven’t been getting that much better, yet prices have pushed to $1,000, or even $1,450 for the top iPhone.

With the $750 iPhone XR, arriving in stores on Friday, you have the opportunity to leap ahead to better technology — like a superior camera and more screen — without getting a nosebleed from the price tag. The best part: Your battery will last an astounding three hours longer than the $1,000 iPhone XS, according to my tests. Just promise you’ll do one thing before you buy: Go to a store and see whether the XR’s larger shape fits your hand.

Apple confused everyone this fall by introducing three new models: the iPhone XS (large), the iPhone XR (larger) and the iPhone XS Max (largest). Yet the prices didn’t increase with size — the only one that costs less than a grand is the XR, pronounced “ten-R.” To further complicate matters, Apple waited an extra month to sell or even show off the XR in stores while it marketed the dickens out of the expensive models.

But like all middle children, the XR shouldn’t be overlooked. This phone isn’t an old model with a colorful paint job. It’s 95 percent as good as the very best, for 75 percent of the cost. Think of the iPhone XR as the top Toyota you buy instead of the Lexus. It’s Chandon sparkling wine instead of Moët champagne. It’s the Backstreet Boys instead of ’N Sync.

Why bother upgrading? And what do you give up by not splurging on the XS and XS Max? Answers below.

The 6.1-inch iPhone XR, left, is a bit larger than the 5.8-inch iPhone XS.
What you get
For anyone using a phone from 2016 or earlier, I think the XR will feel like a dramatic upgrade, the most significant since the iPhone 6 first brought Apple into the big-phone trend.

What you’ll notice first about the XR is how much more screen there is for playing games, reading articles and going down YouTube rabbit holes. The 6.1-inch screen is 45 percent larger than that of the iPhone 6 — a godsend because nobody’s eyes are getting sharper. Apps are bigger, type is bigger, and the on-screen keyboard is bigger, making for fewer embarrassing auto-correct moments.


Check your grip: Before buying an iPhone XR, make sure it fits comfortably in your hand. (James Pace-cornsilk)
The downside is the screen isn’t just larger because it goes from edge to edge. The iPhone XR is also physically larger — a third of an inch wider than an iPhone 6 and more than two ounces heavier. Because the phone has a large waist, my grip on it wasn’t solid. At a store, I recommend holding it like a gun with your index finger and thumb to see if it might slip out. (A case might make it more grippy; Apple isn’t selling its own yet, but others are available.) Also, while holding it in one hand, swipe your thumb in an arc to see how much of the screen you can reach.

(Why do phones keep getting bigger? Sales point to the idea that people can’t get enough screen, even if they might be nervous about carrying it around. Still, I wish Apple had made the XR a little smaller, or would revive its petite iPhone SE line.)

The other controversial change: the trusty home button, with its Touch ID fingerprint reader, is gone. It’s been replaced by Face ID, which scans your mug to unlock, and a swipe-up gesture from the bottom that brings you back to the home screen. It’s weird at first, but you get used to it, and in my tests FaceID on the new phone seems to work a little faster on the XR than last year’s X. If a home button is a dealbreaker, you can still buy an iPhone 8 with one, or switch to an Android phone, many of which have buttons on the back or buried inside the screen.


How much have iPhone cameras improved since 2014? In this comparison shot, the iPhone XR camera is able to draw much more color and dynamic range out of this sunset scene than the iPhone 6. (Geoffrey Fowler/San Francisco)
A few other aspects of the XR will undoubtedly delight older iPhone owners. The processor, called A12 Bionic, is Apple’s fastest ever, so it can fly through apps or run new augmented-reality experiences. The XR is water-resistant up to a meter, so it can survive a swan dive into the loo.

The XR’s cameras are significantly better. Since 2014, Apple has not only increased the camera’s resolution but also the size and sensitivity of the sensor that captures images, allowing it to take night photos that look much more like the eye sees. A new generation of flash fills the background, so subjects don’t look like raccoons caught in the act. The XR also uses software to stabilize video, so that piano recital or baseball game looks less like you’re riding a roller coaster.

And I saved the best for last: battery life. The XR is a beast, topping its more expensive sibling, the XS, because it has a larger battery and uses a different screen technology. It also lasted 2 hours longer than an iPhone 7 in my stress test, which involves scrolling through websites nonstop. None of this is going to let you go without charging your phone at bedtime, but it will certainly be welcome on a busy day.

But let me be clear: You don’t have to buy anything. Most existing iPhones can get a free upgrade with iOS 12, software that was designed, in part, to make older iPhones more stable. And through the end of the year, the company — caught slowing phones with old batteries — is offering to replace the battery in iPhone 6, 6S, 7 and 7 Plus phones for $30. Not buying a new phone is also much better for the environment.

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What’s the difference between the iPhone XS and XR? (The Washington Post Staff/Washington, D.C.)
What you miss
Of course, the XR isn’t the best iPhone, which is usually the way to go with Apple products. So what’s the difference between the iPhone XR and XS? Mostly 250 of your hard-earned dollars.

Phones keep getting pricier mostly because some of us will pay for them. There’s a set who will settle for no less than all the iPhone they can get: They live on their phones and use them more for work than even a laptop. For them, the $1100 iPhone XS Max, with a 6.5-inch Jumbotron, is a no-brainer.

But after an honest assessment of the latest Apple lineup, I think many people would choose the XR and hold on to their cash.

First, there’s a bunch of important stuff that’s exactly the same: They both use the same processor. They both unlock with the same Face ID cameras. They both come with a minimum 64 gigabytes of storage.

The differences start with the screen. The XR uses an older technology called LCD. It’s still better than the iPhone 8, but when you hold the XS and XR side by side, you might notice the blacks are not quite as dark and the colors are not quite as rich as the OLED screen on the XS. The pixels aren’t as dense, either, but you’d need a magnifying glass to tell.

Second, the XR’s body isn’t quite as sturdy. Apple says it has the newest, most shatterproof glass on the front, though not on the back. And its frame is made of aluminum, not steel. I didn’t have any damage when I (accidentally) dropped the XR on hardwood and carpeted surfaces or (on purpose) into a toilet. A drop onto concrete or from on high could be more of a problem.

Call quality and data download speeds were similar, though slightly superior on the XS, which supports a faster style of connection. The XR also comes in more colors — hurray, a lovely blue! — but you’re probably going to cover it in a case anyway. If you have your heart set on gold, that only comes in the XS.

And finally, there’s the camera, which I put it through the ringer. The front-facing selfie camera is exactly the same as the XS, but on the back, the XR has just one camera instead of two. Standard wide-angle shots look exactly the same. But when it comes to portraits, the XR doesn’t have data from a second lens to make the background blurry. In my tests, it didn’t do quite as good a job figuring out the edges around hair, but it was still decent.

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In these portrait tests, the iPhone XR wasn’t as good at identifying the edges of hair but still produced a nice overall shot. (Geoffrey Fowler/San Francisco)
I missed the second lens mostly for zoom shots. It can bring your subject twice as close without losing image quality. As an avid photographer, I’d have a hard time giving this up on the XR. But if you’re upgrading from an older iPhone, the camera on the XR will already be such an improvement, you probably won’t even notice.

The takeaway? Apple has finally made a phone with most of the latest tech innovations that doesn’t cost a thousand bucks. Now you just have to figure out what to do with all that money you saved.
 
As explained by an Apple worker to my teen and adult kids. The XS has 2 cameras and more of the extras, the XR has one camera, and not as much of the extras, but has a better battery life, more colors, and is a little more ruff and tumble. Ended up, my teen, who likes to take pictures and is very into all the extras, got the XSs and the adult teen, who does not care about the best pictures, and uses not much of the extras, got the XR, in the color he really likes.

Both kids are happy and we got Apple Care for both, and both got a Speck case from Amazon that they both like.

Both had upgraded from 7's, and the XSs one had lots of memory, as the old 7 she had, barely had enough memory. The XR got double the memory the 7 he had before, but he really never complained about memory issues.

I still have a 7, and am happy with it for now. I have to get used to all the upgrades the new phones have.

I will say, the main difference in the screens is how things look. As a user of LCD screen, the bump to the other screen is not a big issue for me. It was not the main driver for the kid that chose the XSs. But yes, the OLED is a clearer screen, like you LCD television versus the movie screen.

I'd ask how he uses his phone, and go from there. While the XR is less expensive, both are expensive phones.

Oh, and my XSs phone user was very happy her photos taken with her 7 got upgraded too, when she viewed them on her new phone.

Lucky kids, is all I have to say.
 


For the kids I bought XS. One regular and one Max.

I would have a hard time not buying the greatest when the cost savings is only a few $100 based on our history of keeping phones for 3-4 years.
 
I have read reviews online and looked at the specs, but I'm still stumped. I have to go get one at the apple store pretty soon. It's a Christmas present for my college-aged kid. Seems like the deal breaker is the screen... LCD vs. OLED. DO I care about this? Why?

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
My college kid is getting the XS for Christmas which is the one he said he wanted. He didn't want the bigger size since he carries it in his pocket (uggh - but warrants the steel body) and didn't care about the battery because he always carries a charged brick in his backpack.

As for grip, not sure that should be much of a consideration for a college student as I have yet to see a college student's phone without a pop socket on it. (I am on our local university campus 3x week for work.)

There were some great deals out there that brings the XS into price reality. We got ours on Black Friday but just last week Best Buy had a one day Apple Sale that was the same as the Black Friday deals. Just keep an eye out.
 
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My DS20 got the XR as an early Christmas gift from my mom. It was an upgrade from his 6s. The XS was not in consideration due to the higher price. DS absolutely loves it...esp the longer battery life. He said "It's life changing." LOL
 
I can barely hold my x in my hands. I don’t know how people use those giant phones!

I’m sure whatever model you get, your child will be thrilled. I mean, everyone loves a new phone:)
 
I have the Xr, upgraded from the 6s, I'm very happy with my phone. Am I missing out on something by not getting the Xs? possibly, but honestly I have no idea since I don't have one to compare it to. I'm happy with my $250 in savings.
 
If you have an older model to trade in Apple has bumped up the value of it for both of these models.
https://www.apple.com/shop/trade-in

My older DD 22 bought herself the XS and is madly in love with it. She can’t get over the photo quality and battery life.

If I were buying for my younger kids (13) as a gift they’d be getting the XR for several reasons. The color choices and battery life (supposed to be the best) are the top two.

I frequent an Apple enthusiast forum and those who have the XR are quite happy with them. If your son is happy with the photo quality of his older phone he would be happy with this. To be honest I’m kind of ‘meh’ about the camera on the XS. I’ve turned all the fancy settings off because the photos feel artificial to me otherwise. If your son does not use 3D Touch now he won’t miss it on the XR. If he hasn’t used an OLED screen then he won’t miss that either. The XR might be less expensive but it’s not inferior IMO.
 
As explained by an Apple worker to my teen and adult kids. The XS has 2 cameras and more of the extras, the XR has one camera, and not as much of the extras, but has a better battery life, more colors, and is a little more ruff and tumble. Ended up, my teen, who likes to take pictures and is very into all the extras, got the XSs and the adult teen, who does not care about the best pictures, and uses not much of the extras, got the XR, in the color he really likes.

Both kids are happy and we got Apple Care for both, and both got a Speck case from Amazon that they both like.

Both had upgraded from 7's, and the XSs one had lots of memory, as the old 7 she had, barely had enough memory. The XR got double the memory the 7 he had before, but he really never complained about memory issues.

I still have a 7, and am happy with it for now. I have to get used to all the upgrades the new phones have.

I will say, the main difference in the screens is how things look. As a user of LCD screen, the bump to the other screen is not a big issue for me. It was not the main driver for the kid that chose the XSs. But yes, the OLED is a clearer screen, like you LCD television versus the movie screen.

I'd ask how he uses his phone, and go from there. While the XR is less expensive, both are expensive phones.

Oh, and my XSs phone user was very happy her photos taken with her 7 got upgraded too, when she viewed them on her new phone.

Lucky kids, is all I have to say.
What do you mean her photos were upgraded? There is no way to improve the quality of a photo already taken. There is a setting in the photos app that will display photos as if they were HDR but viewed on any other device they will look as they did previously.
 
My college kid is getting the XS for Christmas which is the one he said he wanted. He didn't want the bigger size since he carries it in his pocket (uggh - but warrants the steel body) and didn't care about the battery because he always carries a charged brick in his backpack.

As for grip, not sure that should be much of a consideration for a college student as I have yet to see a college student's phone without a pop socket on it. (I am on our local university campus 3x week for work.)

There were some great deals out there that brings the XS into price reality. We got ours on Black Friday but just last week Best Buy had a one day Apple Sale that was the same as the Black Friday deals. Just keep an eye out.
Are the deals for buying it outright, or monthly plan? I saw some black friday deals that were monthly plans and we prefer to just buy it.
 
As explained by an Apple worker to my teen and adult kids. The XS has 2 cameras and more of the extras, the XR has one camera, and not as much of the extras, but has a better battery life, more colors, and is a little more ruff and tumble. Ended up, my teen, who likes to take pictures and is very into all the extras, got the XSs and the adult teen, who does not care about the best pictures, and uses not much of the extras, got the XR, in the color he really likes.

Both kids are happy and we got Apple Care for both, and both got a Speck case from Amazon that they both like.

Both had upgraded from 7's, and the XSs one had lots of memory, as the old 7 she had, barely had enough memory. The XR got double the memory the 7 he had before, but he really never complained about memory issues.

I still have a 7, and am happy with it for now. I have to get used to all the upgrades the new phones have.

I will say, the main difference in the screens is how things look. As a user of LCD screen, the bump to the other screen is not a big issue for me. It was not the main driver for the kid that chose the XSs. But yes, the OLED is a clearer screen, like you LCD television versus the movie screen.

I'd ask how he uses his phone, and go from there. While the XR is less expensive, both are expensive phones.

Oh, and my XSs phone user was very happy her photos taken with her 7 got upgraded too, when she viewed them on her new phone.

Lucky kids, is all I have to say.
Lucky kids indeed. My son is moving up from a 6s, which is what I have also. They don't even make cases for them anymore! Lol. For him, I think longer battery life will be the deal breaker. He takes a lot of pictures, but only posts to snapchat so they disappear immediately. Pictures are not a huge deal.
 
My DS20 got the XR as an early Christmas gift from my mom. It was an upgrade from his 6s. The XS was not in consideration due to the higher price. DS absolutely loves it...esp the longer battery life. He said "It's life changing." LOL
Ok, we are on the same wavelength here. My son also has a 6s. We buy our phones and never do the monthly payment plans, so it's a lot of money to shell out in one sitting. We keep our phones well past their prime.

I'm happy to hear your son likes his! "Life changing" are bold words!
 
I have the Xr, upgraded from the 6s, I'm very happy with my phone. Am I missing out on something by not getting the Xs? possibly, but honestly I have no idea since I don't have one to compare it to. I'm happy with my $250 in savings.
This is great to hear! I'm leaning toward Xr.
 
If you have an older model to trade in Apple has bumped up the value of it for both of these models.
https://www.apple.com/shop/trade-in

My older DD 22 bought herself the XS and is madly in love with it. She can’t get over the photo quality and battery life.

If I were buying for my younger kids (13) as a gift they’d be getting the XR for several reasons. The color choices and battery life (supposed to be the best) are the top two.

I frequent an Apple enthusiast forum and those who have the XR are quite happy with them. If your son is happy with the photo quality of his older phone he would be happy with this. To be honest I’m kind of ‘meh’ about the camera on the XS. I’ve turned all the fancy settings off because the photos feel artificial to me otherwise. If your son does not use 3D Touch now he won’t miss it on the XR. If he hasn’t used an OLED screen then he won’t miss that either. The XR might be less expensive but it’s not inferior IMO.
He would be upgrading from a 6s, so I think anything is up from there. Battery life is huge for him. Xr is the leader of the pack for battery.
 

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