Las Vegas Shooting

I think I might have learned something here. The shooter was a wealthy man. There were people killed and injured, causing their families to incur big medical bills. What are the chances that his assets will be frozen and distributed by the police (or FBI or whoever) to help the families offset costs. Heck, a funeral for someone he shot and killed may cost the family, say, $5,000. Will his estate be forced to pay the family the $5000 or will the final injustice be that the shooters money will go to his heirs while the families not only suffer the loss of a loved one, but suffer through paying for that loss?
Granted the GoFundMe page hasn't advised exactly how they will disperse the $ but given that the current total is $10,738,621 even if you take a sizable chunk for whatever admin stuff or legal stuff you still should have something available to the victims. Obviously I'm just looking at the current situation without having the full details available..just like all are currently doing on this thread as we don't quite know what the victims' families will be given in terms of financials.
 
I think I might have learned something here. The shooter was a wealthy man. There were people killed and injured, causing their families to incur big medical bills. What are the chances that his assets will be frozen and distributed by the police (or FBI or whoever) to help the families offset costs. Heck, a funeral for someone he shot and killed may cost the family, say, $5,000. Will his estate be forced to pay the family the $5000 or will the final injustice be that the shooters money will go to his heirs while the families not only suffer the loss of a loved one, but suffer through paying for that loss?

I thought I had read where indeed they were moving to freeze his assets so the estate could be sued. But I don't know what became of it. We know he has spent large sums of money gambling. Enough to be pegged 200 times with the suspicious transaction tag. But given those were all gambling uh I really don't know how much he really has left. But generally that kind of gambling blows through a ton of money.
 
I thought I had read where indeed they were moving to freeze his assets so the estate could be sued. But I don't know what became of it. We know he has spent large sums of money gambling. Enough to be pegged 200 times with the suspicious transaction tag. But given those were all gambling uh I really don't know how much he really has left. But generally that kind of gambling blows through a ton of money.

He had an accounting/math background and many who knew him said that he could figure out the odds with remarkable accuracy. His rationale was that he could look at machines and would carefully go to the ones he liked and monopolize them - primarily the high limits video poker machines. Some of the stories were about him playing during special promotions where one would get slips for drawing entries for a car, and someone saw basically only his name in the hopper because he could get that many entries.

The kind of player he was wasn't exactly a "whale", or someone who the casinos courted because they knew that he would bring them lots of money. Video poker is one of those games where "perfect play" will maximize theoretical outcomes, but where a lot of people actually play on a hunch. The reporting is that he was extremely methodical and didn't really play with emotions or hunches. Think of blackjack where a lot of players refuse to hit on 16 against a 10, but where that's the right move to maximize average payout.

His goal was to try to come close to break even, get free drinks and comps, and perhaps score extra with promotions. I think the term is "advantage player". In blackjack that typically involves counting, but some just play straight up "perfect strategy" to try to minimize losses while collecting comps. The casinos still cater to them because they won't kick out patrons who they don't believe are "cheating" (even legal stuff like card counting) and need to apply their comps according to how much one plays and not how much they lose.
 


Time lines, storys, theory's just seem to keep coming, i have the feeling we are not being told the truth
 
https://www.zappos.com/about/support

Zappos is matching funds up to $1M AND covering the costs of the fund. Plus they are paying funeral expenses out of a separate fund; all the families have to do is get in touch with the company...no waiting.
Guess I'll buy my shoes from Zappos only from now on.

ETA Sorry, didn't see Mrsheppo had already posted this. But, I'll leave it anyhow. Good news always bears repeating.
 


Time lines, storys, theory's just seem to keep coming, i have the feeling we are not being told the truth

I agree.

As anyone who is conscious knows, the Vegas Police and Mandalay Bay are still having real trouble getting their timelines on the shooting to sync.

The security guard Campos who was shot by Paddock was supposed to give a press conference yesterday, but bailed at the last minute. And media sources are now saying he had only been on the job for a few days prior to the shootings and has "no social media footprint."

So we are now supposed to believe it is a coincidence that Campos, who has no social media or online footprint, haplessly stumbled upon Paddock, who also had no social media or online footprint.

And we are still waiting to hear if the mysterious "maintenance man" at the other end of the hallway also has no social media or online footprint.

This whole thing is really beginning to stink.
 
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The wait times stated by the person you answered were understated. Sure if you've blown out your knee and they think you have an ACL or MCL tear, you're probably getting in that day or the next. If they think you have an intestinal blockage which will kill you well yeah, you're going to get in that day. But if they've diagnosed a minor hernia and want a scan to confirm it, you might wait longer. If they think you've broken your leg and want to confirm it, they're going to cast you and give you crutches and you're going to wait longer. Perhaps 2 weeks or a month. And some places in the country have a lot more waiting to do than others.

Exactly. We live in Austin, so a pretty major city with multiple hospitals and a medical school, and when my son needed a routine MRI we were scheduled about six weeks out. There are areas of this country that are overbuilt with medical providers (the street-corner MRI centers, for example) but those areas are not representative of everywhere (and those without insurance still cannot use them, because they cannot afford the service even if they can access it).
 
Thanks for posting this. I hadn't heard about it.

Per the report, three families have already been paid for funeral expenses. Said report states a total of $20,000 was used for that, which if divided evenly comes to around $6,600 per family for those expenses.

According to the investment site Motley Fool, the median (not average, median) cost of a funeral is over $7,000. Which means half of funerals cost less than $7,000 with half running more. It appears cemetery plot and monument expenses are one of the primary factors impacting the total; those can easily push final costs into five figures depending on where the burial site is.
 
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And in yet another tangent, a California woman who was the concert and survived just lost her home to the wildfires going on there:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/14/us/woman-escapes-las-vegas-shooting-california-fires/index.html
While feeling terrible about the whole thing regardless of the Vegas shooting or not the woman would have lost her house in the fires. What it is is unfortunate and isn't what anyone would want to deal with after having went through a shooting but none the less has nothing to do with the actual shooting event. The media however is trying to garner more sympathy for the victims and thus will find out what they can to do so.
 
While feeling terrible about the whole thing regardless of the Vegas shooting or not the woman would have lost her house in the fires. What it is is unfortunate and isn't what anyone would want to deal with after having went through a shooting but none the less has nothing to do with the actual shooting event. The media however is trying to garner more sympathy for the victims and thus will find out what they can to do so.
I doubt anyone would think otherwise.

I certainly think it's newsworthy that one person was impacted by 2 unrelated tragedies like that in such a short span of time.
 
I doubt anyone would think otherwise.

I certainly think it's newsworthy that one person was impacted by 2 unrelated tragedies like that in such a short span of time.
I think it's newsworthy too especially how the media is nowadays but they aren't actually related to each other. It is as sam_gordan said a coincidence.
 

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