Nervous about upcoming trip - evc

Sue1016

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hi all. i've been to disney dozen times or so. Love it. My husband recently has been experience back problems. he went to specialist and has 3 stacked herniated disks. the lower one (L4/L5) is effecting his hips and legs. It's become so bad that he can barely walk a block without sitting for a while to ease the nerve pain. I think i need to get him a scooter for our trip. I'm nervous. I have a small son that's coming with us so we have a stroller. he is able to walk short distances and able to transfer onto rides. how does that work? thinking like pirates or other rides where he would get on and leave his scooter. how does he scooter get the the ride exist which is at a different Location? i know railroad isn't an option either being if i leave main street he wouldn't have his scooter if we get off at frontierland, right?


any and all info about logistics within the park is greatly appreciated.

He is nervous about it. Macho too And doesn’t want to admit to needing it. I wanna rent from Buena visita ( any good) just to have and have him use it / bring to Parks when he feels his worse. More like an insurance policy. Have it just in case.
 
Read the disABILITIES FAQ.

Look for, and read, other recent threads mentioning ECV, even just on this page.

Cast Members will move the ECV to the exit, except on Pirates, where the exit is in a different bui!ding. Wheelchairs are provided.
 
Thank you for the direction. I did read it. Doesn’t ease my nerves though. Do you park the scooters where strollers go? How does that work? Also what are people’s experinces with rain ( read somewhere that they shut off if wet). And battery life. We do plan to charge nightly but what happens if suddenly shuts off? My fear for him
 
You typically take the scooter through the ride line like normal. When you reach the boarding zone area, they will pull you aside to a separate loading zone. Your scooter will stay there and/or be moved to the exit by a cast member.

No need to be nervous. Just ask a CM if you don’t know what to do. There are tons of folks in scooters around the parks.

I’ve also watched lots of kids ride on a adult’s lap while on the scooter. Not sure if this is an option to help ditch the stroller.
 


Do you park the scooters where strollers go? How does that work? Also what are people’s experinces with rain ( read somewhere that they shut off if wet). And battery life. We do plan to charge nightly but what happens if suddenly shuts off? My fear for him

You can park the ECV (usually) where strollers park - if he wants to park it. Most ride ques he can take it through. Some rides - like Buzz Lightyear - he needs to transfer to a wheelchair which is provided for you (parking and the WC's for Buzz are near the Peoplemover - just ask a CM). If he is in a push style wheelchair - it's possible that your child may be able to sit in his lap - but please do confirm that elsewhere as I'm not sure Disney allows it. If so, that would allow you to keep track of the little one while pushing the WC.

Battery life shouldn't be an issue. When you rent the scooter - I'm presuming you're renting from off-site - you can discuss with them any concerns about his weight and the appropriate scooter for it (generally if a person is on the heavier side - the battery life is shorter). However someone who is average weight or even above average can generally have zero problems with a regular scooter. Where you get into more issues is if you're renting a portable scooter (one that breaks down to put in the car) so that likely doesn't apply to you. IF the scooter battery seems to go low often, or the scooter dies in the parks, or you have any other scooter issues - all the scooter companies will come to the park and replace the scooter for you - in the park.

In the rain you want to cover the scooter or park it in a dry place (take it inside a QS restaurant or find some overhang and wait under it, etc). The most important part to cover is the "tiller" area up where the key is and where you hands go to drive it - many of us use a clear plastic shower cap like the type you use once and toss to cover that. I ordered some from amazon.com but some companies will give them to you. Also having some plastic ponchos to cover the scooter up is helpful. If it is really monsooning - then you want to be careful about operating in puddles. I've driven an ECV in heavy rain but don't go through deep water and try to keep it as covered up as you can with the ponchos. You're not going to find many stories here about people having problems with the rain - wait it out if you can, cover it up if you have to drive it. If you park it to go inside a restaurant or shop and it looks like rain - park it under cover or put some ponchos over it.

You can always ask a CM if you have questions about whether you can take it in an attraction - you don't need to memorize all this ahead of time. CM's are very helpful and used to answering this question! If you're offered the option of getting a rear basket with your rental, I suggest not doing it - it's the only thing I've found that really made the ECV hard to drive and park - I felt like the ECV went from a mini Cooper to a double long city bus - that basket really bothered me and made it impossible for me to park on the bus - I took it off asap - lol!
 
Thank you for the direction. I did read it. Doesn’t ease my nerves though. Do you park the scooters where strollers go? How does that work? Also what are people’s experinces with rain ( read somewhere that they shut off if wet). And battery life. We do plan to charge nightly but what happens if suddenly shuts off? My fear for him

ALso, again, read the threads on this front page that have ECV in the title. Many of your questions and concerns have been recently answered in those threads.

A properly charged unit will not just suddenly shut off (and by the way, does not need to be 'topped off'.) Disney rental: approach any CM for help. Offsite rental: call the company.
 


My husband had a L5 problem one trip. He eventually had surgery and is fine now. But he found using the stroller as a “walker” really helped him. We were able to get a stroller as a wheelchair pass for he could take it into the lines when we explained to guest services what he was doing. He also used a folding cane for some places where he didn’t want to bring the stroller.
 
I’ve also watched lots of kids ride on a adult’s lap while on the scooter. Not sure if this is an option to help ditch the stroller.

As @Mrsjvb said above: NO

Disney has rule - for a reason! - that clearly states that their policy is one rider per ECV. Or, as we say at our house, "One seat, one butt".

You may see people doing this, both in the Parks and outside of Disney World, but it's not a good idea for a lot of reasons.

There has been extensive discussion here in the past regarding this practice. Please don't advocate for something that is against Disney's rules.
 
I was in a scooter last summer for our trip due to an (invisible) calf tendon injury. Please let your husband know that using a scooter is as much for him as it is for his family. He gets to enjoy the trip with you and you get to enjoy the trip with him. That's really all that matters. Logistics: Read and review with your husband how each ride loads so he'll have a sense of what he will be doing. It's so different when you have limited mobility. Find a CM and ask if you are unsure about anything. I parked my scooter either where the CMs told me to or with the strollers. I found that it was easier for me to park and walk the lines. I love the suggestion to use the stroller in the lines. I used a foldable cane. It helped me immensely getting on and off ride. And this was my way to signal my injury to people, since I was not in a boot or cast, that I was going to be slower and less agile - those who noticed the cane usually gave me some extra space.
 
Thank you for the direction. I did read it. Doesn’t ease my nerves though. Do you park the scooters where strollers go? How does that work? Also what are people’s experinces with rain ( read somewhere that they shut off if wet). And battery life. We do plan to charge nightly but what happens if suddenly shuts off? My fear for him


Here's a few tips for your husband as a first-time ECV driver:

The very most important thing to know is that if you have any question or concern about where to park your ECV (for riding rides, or seeing shows, or eating meals) then simply ask the nearest Cast Member (Disney Employee). They will be glad to help you find an appropriate place to park - although often it's quite easy to see, simply because there will be lots of other ECVs parked there as well! :)

Who to rent from is very subjective. I recommend CALLING and talking to several companies, and see which one you like best. Currently, a lot of folks around here are having good success renting from Gold, however that is *not* an endorsement - just information! :)

If you can, practicing your ECV driving and parking skills with the electric carts at Wal-Mart, Target, Lowe's, the grocery store, etc. will help a great deal. If you can tame one of those wheezing beasties, a mere rental at WDW will be a breeze! Having said that, do set aside the time when you first get your rental to practice at the Resort (or somewhere outside the Parks) to familiarize yourself with how it stops, turns, etc. I recommend Disney Springs or a Disney Resort, simply because you can "practice" going through shops, food service venues, there are ramps and curb cuts to practice, along with ample open space to get used to backing up (a skill that is important, and often overlooked). And last but not least - there are buses. (more about those later) :)

One of the first things you will notice about your rental is that it will (typically) have a "turtle" and a "rabbit" on the speed dial. "Turtle" speed is slowest and "Rabbit" speed is fastest - but some scooters do have a bit of "turtle" or "rabbit" beyond the indicated range, so experiment with speed control as well. Remember that Disney World does have a "speed limit" for personal mobility devices that is loosely defined as "walking speed". Obviously, some folks walk faster or slower than others, so the general rule of thumb is that you try to go about the speed that everyone around you is going, and when in doubt, slow down. :)

Please remember that WDW has a rule - for everyone's safety - that only you ride the ECV. One device, one rider. Period. Do not carry infants or children on your lap, or let adults ride (either by standing on the "running board" or sitting on the armrest, etc.) The danger to yourself and others is very real.

Bring a brightly colored scarf, length of grosgrain ribbon or bandana to tie on your rental scooter. It will help it stand out in a sea of similar units (if you park it to ride, eat, or shop a bit). Some folks really decorate their rentals! :)

You will have to park the ECV in your room every night to charge it, so if you need to make a bit of space, ask for the table and chairs to be removed at the front desk of your Disney Resort Hotel. You are not allowed to park it outside in a hallway or breezeway, or down at the lobby or bell services. (Pro tip: go directly to the front desk to ask for the table & chairs to be moved - don't call the "Front Desk" from the room phone, as that call goes to a Call Center for the Resorts, and not the Front Desk of the hotel you are at)

If the scooter has a key, always take it with you when you park it.

You can most certainly "park and walk" - many folks here do just that. They will find a central location to park in (again, any Cast Member can point you to a good, safe spot to park in) and then you can move it to the next area when you are ready.

Don't be surprised if you park the ECV to go on a ride, or attraction, and it is moved when you return. The Cast Members are in a constant struggle to keep walkways clear and safe, as well as making sure that parking areas for mobility devices and strollers stay reasonably tidy. You will typically find it quite nearby, but if you don't, just ask any CM you see, and they will help you find it.

Remember to stay sharp and focused while driving the ECV - people at WDW tend to be doing everything but paying attention when they are walking, and many of us here have had folks run right into us, or walk right in front of us as we are moving! I try to make eye contact, smile politely, and offer an cheerful "Excuse me!" when needed, but know that you WILL at some point find yourself nearly running over someone who is either texting, taking a "selfie" or posting their latest selfie to Instagram. Children, who do not yet fully grasp all of the nuances of physics, are especially prone to running out in front of an ECV; they don't realize that most ECVs can't just stop instantly. I try to build a "bubble" in front of me (if I can) by leaving a space, and adjusting my rate of travel, so that I can more easily spot those folks who look like they might pop right out in front of me.

It's true: probably the hardest thing you will do with the ECV all revolves around dealing with the buses, boats & monorails. Just FYI - IT'S NOT THAT HARD! Make sure you are parked in the white painted rectangle at the bus stop (unless another guest beat you to it) so that the driver sees you, and knows you are waiting to ride. If the bus that is approaching your stop is not the one you want, then back out of the rectangle, or signal the driver (by shaking your head "no") that you waiting for a different bus. The driver may still ask you if you want to board his/her bus; just let them know you are waiting for another destination. (The exception to this is at the Ft. Wilderness Campgrounds, where there are not any white painted rectangles at the internal Resort stops for all of the Loops.)

Just to ease your mind, the drivers (and captains and Monorail CMs) will all do their best to help you, and coach you with loading/unloading. They are all patient, and quite used to "newbies" - so just let them know it's your first time driving an ECV, and they will help you as best they can :)

When the ramp comes down, try to be pointed straight at the base of the ramp, and go right up the center. At the top of the ramp you will typically have to turn a bit to the right. GO SLOWLY, especially until you are used to the ECV. Even experienced users take this carefully - the last thing you want is to run over the driver, or hit the side of the doorway going in. Important to know: the drivers will give you instructions and will help as much as they can, but it is up to you (or a member of your party) to actually get the ECV up into the bus. You will always board first, and exit last. Your family can walk up the ramp and board behind you. Also good to know: the bus driver will let them know when it is safe to board the bus *after* your ECV is properly tied down. The bus drivers (and all of the transportation CMs) are nothing short of amazing at WDW!

You can take the ECV on all of the boats (except for the smaller launches) and there, the Captains have a portable ramp you should be able to use. It is identical to the portable ramp they will use for you at the Monorail stations. The loading/unloading procedure is actually fairly similar everywhere - you will almost always load first, and exit last. There are a few boats where the ramp won't be deployed (most notably the WL to MK run; I think the entrance is too narrow for the portable ramp, but I have honestly never asked) but almost every other boat you can take the ECV on will use the portable ramps for you.

Finally, a few quick driving tips: anytime at WDW (or anytime using an ECV for that matter) be aware of ramps, hills and slopes. Going up, you will want to lean forward to help shift your center of gravity towards the front of the ECV. Take your time going up steep slopes, hills or ramps, and if possible, approach them at a slight angle at the base.

Coming down, be very aware of your speed, and make sure you can brake effectively. This is not the time to try and drink your Starbucks; two hands on the wheel!

When crossing the train tracks embedded in Main Street at MK, be sure to cross at a 90 degree angle. Otherwise, you risk the wheel(s) getting caught, and you could find yourself dumped on to Main Street. Everyone wants to have an unforgettable trip - just for the right reasons!

ECVs run on electrically recharged batteries. So, to finish this whole thing up, let's talk for a minute about how to get the most battery life out of your rental while at WDW.

Your rental *should* be delivered with a fully-charged battery. The only time I would allow an exception for this is if it was a late-evening rental, and you weren't planning on going anywhere but to your room, and to sleep!

#1 is to make sure that the battery(s) is/are charged fully prior to leaving for the Parks every morning. Start the day with a fully charged battery, and you should be fine.

Anytime you are stopped for more than - let's just say 10 seconds (no, I'm not exaggerating) - turn off your scooter. Especially when waiting in lines, watching a show or parade, if you are stopped in a store to look at something, or if you are going on a ride, eating a meal, talking to a CM, looking at a map... turn it off! :) This is especially true for when you are riding buses, boats, or the monorail. Essentially, if you would be standing still if you were walking... turn it off. There's no negative effect to the battery for turning it on and off, and if you are Rope Drop to Kiss Goodnight, you will want to monitor your battery usage aggressively.

Don't use the headlight in the daytime. It won't give that much additional visibility, and it will drain the battery faster. Some folks don't even use the headlight at night. On my personal ECV, I have a bicycle lighting system that is self-contained and rechargeable so it doesn't pull from my ECV battery. The only time I tend to use the headlights/taillights is at night, between the Park entrance and the buses, just for an extra bit of visibility.

Hope this helps introduce you to using an ECV at Disney World! :)
 
My experience using an ECV at WDW has been that there's generally a cast member stationed outside the entrance to each attraction; they are on the lookout for people using mobility devices and will usually approach you without you having to ask. They ask if you're able to transfer, and whatever other information is relevant to that attraction, and advise you what to do with your ECV.
 
My experience using an ECV at WDW has been that there's generally a cast member stationed outside the entrance to each attraction; they are on the lookout for people using mobility devices and will usually approach you without you having to ask. They ask if you're able to transfer, and whatever other information is relevant to that attraction, and advise you what to do with your ECV.
 
I've also had nothing but good experiences with the Disney bus drivers! If I had any trouble getting on or off, they would talk me through it step-by-step, and on occasion even steer for me. They also were great at making sure people weren't trying to walk onto the bus during the whole procedure. I have heard from a couple of people whose experiences weren't as good as mine, but I've heard a lot more good stories then bad ones.
 
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My husband had a L5 problem one trip. He eventually had surgery and is fine now. But he found using the stroller as a “walker” really helped him. We were able to get a stroller as a wheelchair pass for he could take it into the lines when we explained to guest services what he was doing. He also used a folding cane for some places where he didn’t want to bring the stroller.

What surgery did he have. Curious. My husband is in a lot of pain most days but his job is very physical
 
Btw you guys are rock stars in making me feel less nervous

Good to know about not topping off battery. Going to call company today to get info and whatnot at times they are available to come to Parks if something happens

Also good to know that he doesn’t have to actively search out cast members and that they will come to u for advise for rides

Thank u all.
 
All the advice above is good. I'll just add a few points.

We use a door stop we bring to hold the resort door open when taking the scooter in and out of the room. You have to find the sweet spot for the doorstop to work well, but it's so helpful not to have someone hold the door open. Those Disney doors are heavy.

You can get a heavy duty scooter rental like a Pride Victory model. They are a little larger, but they have two batteries; so, they last a long while.

If you want some practice ahead of time go to a local zoo and rent a scooter there.

We find going to the park early helps with crowds. If you are onsite use the extra morning magic hours. Then, get to the back of the park before the gate opens to the general public and you will have another hour where the crowd level will be low.

Definitely, use fastpass plus. We get early AM ones. Once you use all your three advance fastpasses you can try for a fourth, fifth and so forth on the run. If you are onsite or at Disney Spring resorts (at least for this year) you can make your fastpass reservations 60 days ahead of time. Offsite resorts or timeshares, etc. you get 30 days ahead of time if you have purchased your park tickets in advance.

When seeing a show, parade, or fireworks remember to shut off the scooter. That will conserve battery power. Keep your battery charger with you at the park. There's a pouch for it. Then, if you need an emergency charge in the park you can do it.

Using a poncho or a shower cap over the tiller helps with the rain. Seeking shelter is the best idea.

Some rides have long waits even using fastpasses like Flight of Passage in Animal Kingdom. You will want to stay on the scooter for the ride queue.

As far as parking a scooter for a time period you can't interfere with a parade route, for example. Then, the CM will move your scooter elsewhere. For table service restaurants you can't park by the entrance/exit. To do less walking you may want your husband to wait at the entrance with your child's stroller while you park the scooter in a safe place. Some table service restaurants have benches for you to sit while waiting. You can make table service reservations 180 days ahead of time. This can provide a good rest period for your husband.

Alternating rides and shows is another way to give your husband a rest period.

I find it challenging getting a scooter on and off the buses. It does get easier the more you do it. Monorails are easier. Boats aren't too bad. There can be waits to get on transportation with a scooter. You are competing with wheelchair users, too. If you can leave the park at off times it will help you in this regard. Leaving right after fireworks can be a nightmare with the buses.

Personally, I would avoid Pirates of the Carribean. That's a very hard ride to get in and out of. Soarin' is a challenge getting to the ride. You need to take an elevator to the lower level where the ride is located. There are plenty of u-tube videos to check out whether or not your husband can handle the ride.

All the best to you.
 
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What surgery did he have. Curious. My husband is in a lot of pain most days but his job is very physical
He had a microdisectomy. He was in severe pain prior to the surgery and was on all kinds of pain killers and muscle relaxers. We ended up with a neurosurgeon instead of a orthopedist and that was the right choice for us. The doctor we used developed the surgery that was used and only takes patients that are severe. When DH woke from surgery he said he felt so much better already. He had some pain from the site and had months of PT and was on disability for 6 weeks while he healed but now years later he runs and lifts weights. He is cleared for all activity - including skydiving according to his doctor. It was the best medical decision we made in a long time.
 
One thing I've found, which may help your and DH's nerves, is that other people with ECVs are very nice and helpful. My first ECV useage was while on a solo trip, when by day 3, my back said "No more walking!" I remember panicking the first time I had to use the restroom since I didn't know where to go, where to park, etc. Finally in desperation, I just approached a couple on ECVs, who were very helpful in pointing out what to do. And when I got to doors where I couldn't find the auto-open, there were always people there to help.
 
One thing I've found, which may help your and DH's nerves, is that other people with ECVs are very nice and helpful. My first ECV useage was while on a solo trip, when by day 3, my back said "No more walking!" I remember panicking the first time I had to use the restroom since I didn't know where to go, where to park, etc. Finally in desperation, I just approached a couple on ECVs, who were very helpful in pointing out what to do. And when I got to doors where I couldn't find the auto-open, there were always people there to help.

LOL yes there are often people who try and help me, even when I don't need it - but I certainly do appreciate their kindness! :)
 

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