New security measure: Do not disturb signs being Removed!

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I'm also thinking a mass shooting A la Vegas wouldn't make WDW seem very happy either. Probably a lot less happy than it is now with a few people complaining. Face it, a mass shooting or other attack would hurt their bottom line way more than a few disgruntled guests.

While the mood was a bit somber on the Strip right after it happened there were still plenty of activity; shows were still booked (ETA: though they were cancelled just after it and resumed a few days later), plenty of people out watching the fountains and walking the Strip and plenty of people in the casinos. Profit-wise IDK on the bottom line but PR-wise absolutely it would affect Disney.

That is your opinion, which you have a right to. I'm comfortable in saying if there was a shooting at any WDW resort for a fact bookings would go down.

I think it would go down at the resort where it occurred and depending on the proximity to other resorts it could but overall go down IDK TBH. The only place that seemed a bit less busy was Mandalay Bay but Excalibur's casino was busy and those are easily accessible from each other. Luxor's has a bridge connecting and it seemed busy enough too and the Blue Man Group show was busy enough several days after the event.

 

[Miffy]

For days when you spend significant time out of the room, you won't have a nap interrupted, because they can check it while you're gone. For days when you spend all day in the room, you could possibly hear a knock on the door during a nap.

So, basically, if I'm a park commando, then all is fine. If I use the room only as a place to sleep for a few hours every night, then what the heck--I won't be affected by this. But if I use the resort as a resort, spending time in my room, using the room a lot during the day, then I should just expect that someone's going to knock on the door and inspect the room, no matter if I'm asleep, awake, in the bathroom, having marital relations, etc.

Maybe WDW could just have something like the capsule hotels in Japan, which are a kind of a coffinlike bed. Then you'd never be in the room, there wouldn't be anyplace to hide anything, and for sure you wouldn't be there during the day. I know this is extreme, but I think it's ridiculous that now I have to plan my vacation time around a security check that I don't even know when it's going to happen. Of course, if I knew when it was going to happen, that would defeat one of its purposes, right? To catch me in my nefarious doings. Like taking a shower.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I thought the point of the "room occupied" sign was that you would put it up when you were in the room, and take it down when you left - so they would know the room was available to check, without disturbing anyone.

For days when you spend significant time out of the room, you won't have a nap interrupted, because they can check it while you're gone. For days when you spend all day in the room, you could possibly hear a knock on the door during a nap.

yes, but it says on the new signs that they may come into the room even if the sign is up

I think this is one of those things we need to see how it plays out. I am confident/hopeful in the end it won't be a big deal nor negatively impact (m)any vacations ... but at the same time I can understand people being worried/concerned about how it may impact their vacations until things are more known

 

[saskdw]

It may. The very fact that it is out there and so talked about may give someone pause, enough that they go to some other property instead of a Disney resort if they have something illegal in mind.

I know if I wanted to plan something nefarious I wouldn't go stay at a resort where I knew they were going to do random checks on me.

These people aren't in the same frame of mind as you are.

It's been pointed out many times in these threads how easy it is to just keep any weapons out of site in closed luggage. I just think if someone is determined enough this won't stop them. A casual criminal/crazy person won't pick Disney as a target. It will be someone who is well prepared.

Do you honestly believe Disney is doing this for safety and not to limit their liability in the event of an incident? This isn't because their lawyers told them this would limit liability?

 

[anm0423]

Are they shampoo dispensers? Sorry. This just caught my attention.

Yes -- body wash, shampoo & conditioner. Sorry for the vague post.

 

[Krandor]

Perhaps I've misunderstood something, but from what I've gathered, there are no longer any DND signs at WDW, and even if you have a "Room Occupied" sign on the door and mousekeeping, for example, made up your bed yesterday, much less than 24 hours ago, security will still knock on your door. Even if you're taking a nap in the afternoon and mousekeeping serviced your room that morning. That is a big difference from having a DND up for 24+ hours and no one has had any access to your room except you.

When I'm in a hotel and I put the DND up, it's because I don't want to be disturbed. At all!

They only indicated they can. I find expect to see security coming in on Tuesday if housekeeping was there Monday. Keep room occupied ip all day Tuesday and they will likely check Wednesday

I think this is getting blown out of proportion.

 

[maxiesmom]

These people aren't in the same frame of mind as you are.

It's been pointed out many times in these threads how easy it is to just keep any weapons out of site in closed luggage. I just think if someone is determined enough this won't stop them. A casual criminal/crazy person won't pick Disney as a target. It will be someone who is well prepared.

Do you honestly believe Disney is doing this for safety and not to limit their liability in the event of an incident? This isn't because their lawyers told them this would limit liability?

I think it is both.

 

[Krandor]

I agree with you.

What I'm saying is these pretend invasion of privacy security checks wont stop anything from happening.

I do agree with this. Won’t do much of anything. Also won’t affect me since I wamt housekeeping to come every day.

 

[STLstone]

yes, but it says on the new signs that they may come into the room even if the sign is up

I think this is one of those things we need to see how it plays out. I am confident/hopeful in the end it won't be a big deal nor negatively impact (m)any vacations ... but at the same time I can understand people being worried/concerned about how it may impact their vacations until things are more known

That's what I meant. When you're there all day (and leave the sign up all day), they could still knock on your door (with the sign still up - and eventually enter).

 

[saskdw]

So, basically, if I'm a park commando, then all is fine. If I use the room only as a place to sleep for a few hours every night, then what the heck--I won't be affected by this. But if I use the resort as a resort, spending time in my room, using the room a lot during the day, then I should just expect that someone's going to knock on the door and inspect the room, no matter if I'm asleep, awake, in the bathroom, having marital relations, etc.

Maybe WDW could just have something like the capsule hotels in Japan, which are a kind of a coffinlike bed. Then you'd never be in the room, there wouldn't be anyplace to hide anything, and for sure you wouldn't be there during the day. I know this is extreme, but I think it's ridiculous that now I have to plan my vacation time around a security check that I don't even know when it's going to happen. Of course, if I knew when it was going to happen, that would defeat one of its purposes, right? To catch me in my nefarious doings. Like taking a shower.

From what I've observed most of the people supporting this policy or saying it's no big deal are the park commando type.

 

[STLstone]

So, basically, if I'm a park commando, then all is fine. If I use the room only as a place to sleep for a few hours every night, then what the heck--I won't be affected by this. But if I use the resort as a resort, spending time in my room, using the room a lot during the day, then I should just expect that someone's going to knock on the door and inspect the room, no matter if I'm asleep, awake, in the bathroom, having marital relations, etc.

Maybe WDW could just have something like the capsule hotels in Japan, which are a kind of a coffinlike bed. Then you'd never be in the room, there wouldn't be anyplace to hide anything, and for sure you wouldn't be there during the day. I know this is extreme, but I think it's ridiculous that now I have to plan my vacation time around a security check that I don't even know when it's going to happen. Of course, if I knew when it was going to happen, that would defeat one of its purposes, right? To catch me in my nefarious doings. Like taking a shower.

Based on my understanding of how this new policy has been described, yes, this is what this is going to mean - unless you "schedule" a time for them to come by on the days that you plan to spend most of your time at the resort.

 

[saskdw]

yes, but it says on the new signs that they may come into the room even if the sign is up

I think this is one of those things we need to see how it plays out. I am confident/hopeful in the end it won't be a big deal nor negatively impact (m)any vacations ... but at the same time I can understand people being worried/concerned about how it may impact their vacations until things are more known

Unfortunately it's not playing out well in the numerous reports now coming in.

I honestly thought this would all blow over and there would be very few actual "security" checks.

I'm genuinely surprised at how aggressive, invasive, and rude they are being with this. Assuming the reports are true and not exaggerated.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

That's what I meant. When you're there all day (and leave the sign up all day), they could still knock on your door (with the sign still up - and eventually enter).

right but if the CM is just swinging by on their route to check each room on that wing or something they won't know how long the sign has been up ...

... well, I guess that is what is to be seen - are the checking for signs that have been up for a while and then checking, or just checking ever room as they go and if you just got back 15 mins ago and put your kid down to nap and then knock and come in anyway

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Unfortunately it's not playing out well in the numerous reports now coming in.

I honestly thought this would all blow over and there would be very few actual "security" checks.

I'm genuinely surprised at how aggressive, invasive, and rude there are being with this. Assuming the reports are true and not exaggerated.

have these reports been verified? I know some of the initial reports that came out were then proven to be false and have been removed from the DIS threads where they were reported

 

[saskdw]

have these reports been verified? I know some of the initial reports that came out were then proven to be false and have been removed from the DIS threads where they were reported

There has been quite a few just from the last 24 hours. Hard to believe they are all false.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

have these reports been verified? I know some of the initial reports that came out were then proven to be false and have been removed from the DIS threads where they were reported

In other threads yes people have talked about their experiences.

While I'm a skeptic-person by nature I don't like that on the DIS people have a tendency to question question question whenever a poster describes a situation. I'm not in the habit of guilty until proven innocent-type frame of mind though yes I've been guilty of this before that's for sure.

I'm not saying you're like this at all just a general comment. Sometimes things are exaggerated, sometimes they are false but most things are likely true. I'd rather assume true (unless completely up the wall outlandish, then my skeptic thinking comes into play) than always say "has this been verified". Besides what would make it verifiable to you?

ETA: I should also say I've seen a lot of admonishments from mods in the past about "one day DISers will just believe posters instead of not" (paraphrasing here) on threads that end up getting nasty.

 

[Miffy]

In other threads yes people have talked about their experiences.

While I'm a skeptic-person by nature I don't like that on the DIS people have a tendency to question question question whenever a poster describes a situation. I'm not in the habit of guilty until proven innocent-type frame of mind though yes I've been guilty of this before that's for sure.

I'm not saying you're like this at all just a general comment. Sometimes things are exaggerated, sometimes they are false but most things are likely true. I'd rather assume true (unless completely up the wall outlandish, then my skeptic thinking comes into play) than always say "has this been verified". Besides what would make it verifiable to you?

Thank you.

 

[saskdw]

right but if the CM is just swinging by on their route to check each room on that wing or something they won't know how long the sign has been up ...

... well, I guess that is what is to be seen - are the checking for signs that have been up for a while and then checking, or just checking ever room as they go and if you just got back 15 mins ago and put your kid down to nap and then knock and come in anyway

From whats been posted it seems they are just checking when they decide to do it. I don't think it has anything to do with signs being up for too long. There's been a couple of reports of people just getting back to there room, putting the sign up and someone knocking on the door shortly after.

I wanted to believe this was being blown out of proportion, but it really seems Disney is going full steam ahead with this.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

There has been quite a few just from the last 24 hours. Hard to believe they are all false.

In other threads yes people have talked about their experiences.

While I'm a skeptic-person by nature I don't like that on the DIS people have a tendency to question question question whenever a poster describes a situation. I'm not in the habit of guilty until proven innocent-type frame of mind though yes I've been guilty of this before that's for sure.

I'm not saying you're like this at all just a general comment. Sometimes things are exaggerated, sometimes they are false but most things are likely true. I'd rather assume true (unless completely up the wall outlandish, then my skeptic thinking comes into play) than always say "has this been verified". Besides what would make it verifiable to you?

ETA: I should also say I've seen a lot of admonishments from mods in the past about "one day DISers will just believe posters unstead of not" (paraphrasing here) on threads that end up getting nasty.

There were a few early reports that described very startling situations which where proven to be false, and I hadn't really heard much since (and those were really the only ones)

But if there are a number of new ones then at some point where there is smoke there is fire and that is sad to see - I absolutely think safety needs to be a priority but there is a way to do it while balancing guest experience as well

 

[MaryLovesPoohBear]

have these reports been verified? I know some of the initial reports that came out were then proven to be false and have been removed from the DIS threads where they were reported

What would you need to have them "verified?"