No More Glacier Bay for Royal in 2020?

nancy drew

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Just a heads up... Royal has changed itineraries and replaced all Glacier Bay visits with other glaciers/ports. Below is part of the email that was sent to guests who are booked on these sailings:

Dear Guest,

Before we set sail on our May 22, 2020 Ovation of the Seas cruise, we have a change to share with you.

Earlier this year, we were excited to add Glacier Bay National Park, Alaska to our itinerary. However, sometimes things don’t go as planned and we’ve changed back to the original itinerary. So, we’ll visit Endicott Arm & Dawes Glacier as originally planned, instead of Glacier Bay National Park. We are sorry for any disappointment, but we’re confident you’ll have a wonderful time as we provide you with plenty of opportunities to explore everything Alaska has to offer – including glaciers! Please see our new itinerary below.
 

_auroraborealis_

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I think it has to do with schedule. While they were given rights to sail GB, there can only be a certain number of ships in the bay each day and prior grantees may have had priority.
 

nancy drew

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I think it has to do with schedule. While they were given rights to sail GB, there can only be a certain number of ships in the bay each day and prior grantees may have had priority.
That could very well be. But they promoted their presence in Glacier Bay pretty heavily, and changed itineraries to include GB as a destination. Taking it out again is a big deal, especially since many, many people booked specifically for the GB stop, spending a lot more than they would have if GB hadn't been on the itinerary in the first place. With Royal's nonrefundable deposit and change fees, people feel stuck with a cruise they would never have otherwise booked.
 

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  • _auroraborealis_

    I like marshmallows. And adult beverages.
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    That could very well be. But they promoted their presence in Glacier Bay pretty heavily, and changed itineraries to include GB as a destination. Taking it out again is a big deal, especially since many, many people booked specifically for the GB stop, spending a lot more than they would have if GB hadn't been on the itinerary in the first place. With Royal's nonrefundable deposit and change fees, people feel stuck with a cruise they would never have otherwise booked.
    Yeah. I think RCCL should do something around the non-refundables, especially. I just suspect this was a forced hand, and not malevolence.
     

    msjprincess

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    I don't know how true it is but I read that HAL originally changed a couple of cruises so that RCCL could enter Glacier Bay and then changed their mind and switched back, so RCCL was bumped.

    I think RCCL should offer refunds to people that booked after the itinerary was changed to include Glacier Bay. I know they don't have to, but going out their way will make people want to sail with them again. I sailed on Carnival earlier this year. Our ship was diverted because of a medical emergency. We ended up with a day in Key West and skipped Grand Cayman. Everyone was given a 15% FCC. They didn't have to do it and it was completely unexpected.
     

    _auroraborealis_

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    I retract what I said.

    The National Park Service confirmed that RCCL recently elected not to finalize its agreement to visit the park. Earlier this year, the federal agency announced that seven cruise lines had won 10-year park access including Cunard, Princess Cruises, Holland America Line, Norwegian Cruise Line, Seabourn, Viking Cruises and Royal Caribbean.

    This means that Royal Caribbean won't be visiting the UNESCO World Heritage Site until at least 2029, when the current agreement expires.

    So, RCCL was marketing this without a finalized agreement, and decided not to sign.
     

    nancy drew

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    I retract what I said.

    The National Park Service confirmed that RCCL recently elected not to finalize its agreement to visit the park. Earlier this year, the federal agency announced that seven cruise lines had won 10-year park access including Cunard, Princess Cruises, Holland America Line, Norwegian Cruise Line, Seabourn, Viking Cruises and Royal Caribbean.

    This means that Royal Caribbean won't be visiting the UNESCO World Heritage Site until at least 2029, when the current agreement expires.

    So, RCCL was marketing this without a finalized agreement, and decided not to sign.
    Wow, that is a huge deal! I wonder why they did not sign? That is a big error on their part.
     
  • _auroraborealis_

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    Wow, that is a huge deal! I wonder why they did not sign? That is a big error on their part.
    I suspect it was price vs. dates. Because the NPS has a sweetheart deal in perpetuity with Princess and HAL, the dates for all other lines are scattered on the calendar and pricey. The deal with Princess and HAL is fairly ridiculous.
     

    bobbiwoz

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    Being In Glacier Bay is fabulous these days! Rangers come on board, give lectures. Years ago that did not happen.
     

    nancy drew

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    Being In Glacier Bay is fabulous these days! Rangers come on board, give lectures. Years ago that did not happen.
    Yes! My kids got to complete the Junior Park Ranger program on the ship. It was great! They also had a native Alaskan join the kids club to talk about Alaskan life. She brought some cool stuff, like this fishing tool that was really neat. Very cool program!
     

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