Quite the Valedictorian speech

I agree. I hate speeches. Any and all. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Let’s eat!

The speech the valedictorian gave at my high school was brutal. It was probably about 15 minutes but seemed to last an hour. Chock full of wall to wall words that many likely didn't understand tediously delivered in a dull monotonous tone. He lost the audience within the first minute.

He paused after about ten minutes. Some started to applaud, thinking the speech was over, then he continued and an audible groan arose from the audience.
 
I don’t know, in a way, I like her spunk. If the things she says are true and have been brought to the attention on the admin before with no results, maybe it was time for someone to make it public.

If, instead of ignoring her, the drunk teacher is at the very least reprimanded and the counselor made to do her job then this girl has done something positive for the students coming behind her.

She didn’t make graduation about her, she made it about the issues in the school.

It doesn’t sound like there was really a nice way to say the things she said. Yeah, she aired their dirty laundry but it is a public school. When there are those kind of problems, some times a little airing will do some good.

This is another one of those things where we think it’s better to keep things all prim and proper and don’t make waves or rock the boat. Just say the same old, same old and pretend everything is wonderful at your dear old school that gave you this wonderful opportunity. Some times positive change comes from rocking that boat.

Now, otoh, if none of this was every brought to the admin prior to her speech, then I can see where the speech was quite shocking to the powers that be. And either she or her parents should have brought these problems out way before graduation.

And perhaps she should have taken more of a “hey look what we accomplished in spite of these hurdles” approach similar to @Southernmiss’s sons speech.

Either way, sounds like changes need to be made at this young lady’s school and not with the graduation ceremony.

Words matter. How & when we say those words matter.

I'm not impressed by this valedictorian at all. And, if I were her parent, I'd be ashamed. She needs to take that "spunk" & go do something that truly inspires instead of just making a spectacle.

She came off as petulant & rude instead of informed & proactive.

Her speech was not inspiring or encouraging or edifying; instead, it was sarcastic & mean-spirited & ill-spoken.

She publicly ridiculed a teacher who had been escorted out of the classroom by the police for his/her substance abuse problem.

The speech she gave was not the speech that was pre-approved by the administration. She was disrespectful to the administration, the teachers, her fellow students, & the audience.

She took her turn on stage & decided to be "shocking" & give a speech she thought was flippantly sarcastic & "cute" as she figuratively gave the middle finger to the school's administration & staff.

One can inspire change w/o ridicule & rude sarcasm. One can point out necessary improvements while still being gracious & respectful. And needed change can be addressed in a valedictorian's speech - but not in the manner of this girl's speech.

And, yes, the "to my parents & I" made me laugh as well. She's obviously not as smart as she thinks she is.
 
People are getting fed up with the so called elites and people in power. You are seeing more and more people speaking out. I think it is a good sign. The laundry needs to be aired out.
Just this morning I was shocked to wake up and discover that Tim Allen, who’s out promoting Toy Story 4, has now been deemed a racist. Who decides these things?
 
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I read the article about the speech this morning and maybe come away with a totally different take on the whole thing. Some here say it was disrespectful, some say it was her just pointing out the wrongs in the system and her school. Well step back a couple paces and put things like this in context. This is just a manifestation of the way our world is going. Our information at our finger tip, online 24/7 world teaches the youth of today (as well as older willing to listen and drink the koolaide) that silence is no longer acceptable. In many cases I agree, obviously when it comes to the Me Too movement and the secrets the Catholic church have hidden for years it is the right thing to speak up and tell people what is wrong. But see in today's world everyone wants their voice heard. People are embolden to speak out whether it is the proper setting or not. And if you say maybe this is not the right thing to do in a particular setting then others shame you or accuse you of being prejudiced, bias, sexist or worse. What this young lady did was exactly what our current society taught her to do, speak out loud and with resolve, regardless of the time or place.

Incidents like this are of absolutely no surprise to me anymore, more like the norm.
 
What bothers me about it is that it was an airing of personal grievances, some of which were by her own words already resolved. There wasn't any real "call for change" in her message because it was so focused at the individual level.

In a broad sense, I don't have a problem with using speeches like that one as a platform to draw attention to systemic issues that aren't being addressed despite complaints through the usual channels. (Like these students, who took their commencement as an opportunity to speak out about long-running issues in their charter high school: https://www.freep.com/story/news/ed...iticize-charter-school-graduation/1381474001/) But when you make it personal - this teacher did this and this counselor didn't do that - it comes across as petty, mean-spirited and attention seeking. And the fact that nothing in anything I've seen from her has talked about any earlier attempts to solve the issues by going to building administration, the school board or other, more standard avenues for seeking change in a school system, only adds to that impression.
 


Words matter. How & when we say those words matter.

I'm not impressed by this valedictorian at all. And, if I were her parent, I'd be ashamed. She needs to take that "spunk" & go do something that truly inspires instead of just making a spectacle.

She came off as petulant & rude instead of informed & proactive.

Her speech was not inspiring or encouraging or edifying; instead, it was sarcastic & mean-spirited & ill-spoken.

She publicly ridiculed a teacher who had been escorted out of the classroom by the police for his/her substance abuse problem.

The speech she gave was not the speech that was pre-approved by the administration. She was disrespectful to the administration, the teachers, her fellow students, & the audience.

She took her turn on stage & decided to be "shocking" & give a speech she thought was flippantly sarcastic & "cute" as she figuratively gave the middle finger to the school's administration & staff.

One can inspire change w/o ridicule & rude sarcasm. One can point out necessary improvements while still being gracious & respectful. And needed change can be addressed in a valedictorian's speech - but not in the manner of this girl's speech.

And, yes, the "to my parents & I" made me laugh as well. She's obviously not as smart as she thinks she is.
What bothers me about it is that it was an airing of personal grievances, some of which were by her own words already resolved. There wasn't any real "call for change" in her message because it was so focused at the individual level.

In a broad sense, I don't have a problem with using speeches like that one as a platform to draw attention to systemic issues that aren't being addressed despite complaints through the usual channels. (Like these students, who took their commencement as an opportunity to speak out about long-running issues in their charter high school: https://www.freep.com/story/news/ed...iticize-charter-school-graduation/1381474001/) But when you make it personal - this teacher did this and this counselor didn't do that - it comes across as petty, mean-spirited and attention seeking. And the fact that nothing in anything I've seen from her has talked about any earlier attempts to solve the issues by going to building administration, the school board or other, more standard avenues for seeking change in a school system, only adds to that impression.


I agree. And I think this stunt will totally come back to bite her in the butt when it comes time to look for employment. Prospective employers will Google her and this speech will come up. Who's going to hire her? She purposely, underhandedly handed in a different speech. An acceptable one. She knew this one wouldn't have been approved. So she goes behind people's backs when it suits her cause to backstab the people in charge. I certainly wouldn't want her on my team. :sad2:
 
Words matter. How & when we say those words matter.

I'm not impressed by this valedictorian at all. And, if I were her parent, I'd be ashamed. She needs to take that "spunk" & go do something that truly inspires instead of just making a spectacle.

She came off as petulant & rude instead of informed & proactive.

Her speech was not inspiring or encouraging or edifying; instead, it was sarcastic & mean-spirited & ill-spoken.

She publicly ridiculed a teacher who had been escorted out of the classroom by the police for his/her substance abuse problem.

The speech she gave was not the speech that was pre-approved by the administration. She was disrespectful to the administration, the teachers, her fellow students, & the audience.

She took her turn on stage & decided to be "shocking" & give a speech she thought was flippantly sarcastic & "cute" as she figuratively gave the middle finger to the school's administration & staff.

One can inspire change w/o ridicule & rude sarcasm. One can point out necessary improvements while still being gracious & respectful. And needed change can be addressed in a valedictorian's speech - but not in the manner of this girl's speech.

And, yes, the "to my parents & I" made me laugh as well. She's obviously not as smart as she thinks she is.

I wonder how many board meetings she organized parents to attend to do something about it before her speech?
 
Paint me cynical but I've been to far too many graduations. The whole "give a speech" tradition (especially in high school) has grown WAY too long in the tooth. The speakers say nothing important or inspiring. It just dragggggggggggggs the ceremony. No one cares who the valedictorian is or what they say except their family.

Frankly if I could, I'd get rid of graduation ceremonies all together. Give them their diplomas the last day of school and let them go. If college, they get their degrees by mail anyway.

The only things I remember from my high school graduation (it was outside on the football field) was some guys passing a bong down the row and me being the only kid in the school that knew the words to the alma mater that they made us sing at the end. Whoopie
 
She didn’t make graduation about her, she made it about the issues in the school.
She totally made it about her. I'm sure she's not the only one to experience some of those issues no doubt but this seems like she had personal grievances--in a completely wrong place.

Lots of "me"s and "my" in her speech with respects to her rant.

I'm not saying she shouldn't be able to discuss what happened but at a graduation event for all the class it was simply not the appropriate place. I would be upset, even if I agreed with some of what she said, if I was a student graduating. She took what was an event to celebrate all of us completing an accomplishment and made it about something it shouldn't have been.
 
There are two sides to every story. Whenever I read a Facebook rant or a bad Yelp review, I wonder what really happened. This girl obviously had quite a bit of success at this high school. I'm sure there were some bumps along the way, but she stands up there and rages about things that were "done to her." Does she share any responsibility? The office staff failed to tell her about scholarship deadlines? Did she not have the resources to look them up and keep track of them herself? Did she expect them to contact her in advance of every deadline to remind her? Sound a bit entitled to me.

I can tell you that not one person at DS's high school had any clue about how to get accepted into his chosen major (musical theater). The drama teacher admitted that he knew nothing about what was required for audition-only programs. We hired a private college audition coach. She helped him choose schools, submit his applications, film his pre-screens, rehearse his in-person auditions and practice interviews. I never expected a public high school to help with such a specialized major. Self-reliance!
 
It’s funny... we had guidance counselors in high school in the ‘70s but I never once thought to meet with one. Right or wrong, I was under the impression they were for students with “problems”. I was basically self guided or I relied on my parents’ wisdom. Did anyone else have this experience? On second thought, I do recall meeting with a counselor once in either my junior or early in my senior year, but she mainly just asked me about future plans. Since I had already chosen my college and was pretty decided on my major, there wasn’t much to say. I think the entire meeting lasted about 10 minutes. And that was my one and only experience with high school guidance counselors. I certainly had nothing to be angry at.

Yup.
We had a few guidance classes and maybe one scheduled career counseling session.
It wasn’t like anyone saw the guidance counselor on a regular basis. More for problem students.
 
I am really trying to see her side, but I just can't on this one. The speech is supposed to be inspiring. Speak your mind and be honest but choose your audience.

Where is it written that the speech has to be inspiring? If it's written somewhere, our new superintendent didn't read it. More on that after I respond to the other quoted posts -
Words matter. How & when we say those words matter.

I'm not impressed by this valedictorian at all. And, if I were her parent, I'd be ashamed. She needs to take that "spunk" & go do something that truly inspires instead of just making a spectacle.

She came off as petulant & rude instead of informed & proactive.

Her speech was not inspiring or encouraging or edifying; instead, it was sarcastic & mean-spirited & ill-spoken.

She publicly ridiculed a teacher who had been escorted out of the classroom by the police for his/her substance abuse problem.

The speech she gave was not the speech that was pre-approved by the administration. She was disrespectful to the administration, the teachers, her fellow students, & the audience.

She took her turn on stage & decided to be "shocking" & give a speech she thought was flippantly sarcastic & "cute" as she figuratively gave the middle finger to the school's administration & staff.

One can inspire change w/o ridicule & rude sarcasm. One can point out necessary improvements while still being gracious & respectful. And needed change can be addressed in a valedictorian's speech - but not in the manner of this girl's speech.

And, yes, the "to my parents & I" made me laugh as well. She's obviously not as smart as she thinks she is.

While I pause at the calling out of the drunk teacher, my guess is that the public didn't know of it and they should - that teacher was under the influence and yet responsible for children. Why did it take so long to get that teacher out of there?

But the rest - still wondering why people are stuck on the 'must be inspiring' part? And picking on one grammatical error, when it is a common one?


Paint me cynical but I've been to far too many graduations. The whole "give a speech" tradition (especially in high school) has grown WAY too long in the tooth. The speakers say nothing important or inspiring. It just dragggggggggggggs the ceremony. No one cares who the valedictorian is or what they say except their family.

Frankly if I could, I'd get rid of graduation ceremonies all together. Give them their diplomas the last day of school and let them go. If college, they get their degrees by mail anyway.

The only things I remember from my high school graduation (it was outside on the football field) was some guys passing a bong down the row and me being the only kid in the school that knew the words to the alma mater that they made us sing at the end. Whoopie

This year's valedictorian in our town gave a great speech - it was about how no one would remember what she said, so who cares what she talks about?

There are two sides to every story. Whenever I read a Facebook rant or a bad Yelp review, I wonder what really happened. This girl obviously had quite a bit of success at this high school. I'm sure there were some bumps along the way, but she stands up there and rages about things that were "done to her." Does she share any responsibility? The office staff failed to tell her about scholarship deadlines? Did she not have the resources to look them up and keep track of them herself? Did she expect them to contact her in advance of every deadline to remind her? Sound a bit entitled to me.

I can tell you that not one person at DS's high school had any clue about how to get accepted into his chosen major (musical theater). The drama teacher admitted that he knew nothing about what was required for audition-only programs. We hired a private college audition coach. She helped him choose schools, submit his applications, film his pre-screens, rehearse his in-person auditions and practice interviews. I never expected a public high school to help with such a specialized major. Self-reliance!

So you're saying we should all have to hire private college coaches? What about those who can't afford to, but have as much, if not more talent than your son?

It sounds like she did her part - she went to the office, she tried to follow through, etc. Some local scholarships are not online. We have a huge packet at our school the kids have to fill out for the local ones. We do notify kids for deadlines. There's a system that can be used, and it sounds like this school had no clue.

Now, to the part about inspiring - our superintendent told the kids they were all going to fail. He called out one kid, by name, and told him he wasn't going to get the big benjamins. It was the nicest, most helpful, most amazing kid in our school - and he called him out at graduation. The super then went on to talk about famous people who failed, but it was too late - he'd already lost his audience and insulted an entire class. And the speech sounded a bit plagiarized as well.
 
I am a bit surprised at so many basically defending the guidance counselor and calling the girl petty on that one. If your kid was qualified for a huge scholarship that the counselor knew about, had the paperwork on and yet failed to tell your kid about, you would be ok with that?

For some kids these scholarships are the difference in being able to go to college or not.

At what point is it ok to call someone out for not doing their job when that job can have a big effect on your life?

A counselor not knowing how to guide a student in applying for colleges with the major of their choice? That is part of their job description! It is literally their job to find out!
 

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