Single Rider for Hagrid’s Motorbike Coaster

disneylover102

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I know the regular line is having insane wait times today, but did anyone try out single rider? How long was it? My next trip to Florida is a long time away but I want to know hid single rider is good or not.
 

imprint

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I have no info, but I have a thought about it. After these initial days, I would think single rider would be a great option if the single rider is wanting/willing to ride in the side car. I assume more people will want to ride the motorbike, so I would think sidecars would often be filled with single riders. Maybe the TMs will not take preferences into account, but if they do, I think single rider in side car would be a good strategy to save time. Who know though....
 

ray3127

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This was just our experience on opening day, but we arrived at 6:00AM and by the time we hit the loading area around 12:00PM we asked some of the single riders when they arrived this morning. They said 6AM as well. So single riders didn't save any time today.

I don't think the motorbike/sidecar thing will matter. It's a 2-person car, period. Most parties travel in even numbers. The only time a single riders gets to ride is when there's a party of 3, 5, 7... Those just aren't as common.

This is why I always say single riders on Test Track is a great strategy, it's two rows of 3. DW & I have ridden in the same car one behind the other going single rider.

Bottom line, I don't think the single rider line will save much time, if at all.
 
  • ray3127

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    I don’t see why you would think odd-numbered families/groups are so rare.
    They're simply less common. All I'm saying is that the majority of groups are 2/4. Nothing wrong with traveling in odd-numbered groups/families whatsoever.

    My point is simply if one wants to save time, a single-rider line on a ride that sits people in groups of 2 won't do it as well as a ride that seats 3 in a row. It's a much bigger time saver on rides like Test Track & Radiator Springs Racers, which seats people in rows of 3. Those single riders simply move faster.

    The OP asked if single rider would save time on Hagrid's. Opening day was a special case, but in general I think the answer is "not as much as you might think, and possibly no time at all", as the people that were at the front of the single rider line had waited just as long as we did in the regular queue.
     

    Disxuni

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    I would also disagree that odd pairs are rare. As a frequenter SR almost most of the lines move rather quickly. I do not notice a difference between odd vs even numbered seats make a difference. If anything the more seats as a whole, not by row, I believe makes a difference. As for example, the rides that I can think of off the top of my head of SR lines that seem to move slower than others to me is Gringotts and RRR.
     
  • Liljo22

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    They're simply less common. All I'm saying is that the majority of groups are 2/4. Nothing wrong with traveling in odd-numbered groups/families whatsoever.

    My point is simply if one wants to save time, a single-rider line on a ride that sits people in groups of 2 won't do it as well as a ride that seats 3 in a row. It's a much bigger time saver on rides like Test Track & Radiator Springs Racers, which seats people in rows of 3. Those single riders simply move faster.

    The OP asked if single rider would save time on Hagrid's. Opening day was a special case, but in general I think the answer is "not as much as you might think, and possibly no time at all", as the people that were at the front of the single rider line had waited just as long as we did in the regular queue.
    There are single rider lines at other parks with roller coasters and its almost always faster in that line. Don't understand why all of a sudden it won't work on this line.
     

    Disxuni

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    There are single rider lines at other parks with roller coasters and its almost always faster in that line. Don't understand why all of a sudden it won't work on this line.
    I think it will move faster than the other roller coasters due to the pairing off. For the other coasters, there is so many people per row and multiple rows, you can easily fit other odd pairings with other odd pairings, but since it by two, I believe the minute they see an odd one out, they're going to just add a single, because it's going to be easier than pairing them with another odd pairing.
     

    georgina

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    They're simply less common. All I'm saying is that the majority of groups are 2/4. Nothing wrong with traveling in odd-numbered groups/families whatsoever.

    Do you have any experience using single rider lines? I have, both at Disney (mostly EE) and Universal. There are plenty of parties of 3 and 5. There will be lots of folks using single rider at the beginning to try to avoid the lines, it will die down eventually.
     

    leiaorgana

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    From what I’ve seen other people saying else where is that atm Single Riders still have to go through the main extended queue line that’s set up and then once you get to the main entrance archway of the ride that’s where you split off into the Single Rider line or carry on into the main line so it doesn’t save much time right now. That’ll obviously change though once things have settled down a bit. People that were in the extended queue and then went into the Single Rider queue yesterday actually saw people that were behind them in the main queue get on before them.

    Also Single Rider and Express lines skip the preshow room and a lot of the other queue rooms that set up the story so that’s something to bear in mind.
     
  • ray3127

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    Do you have any experience using single rider lines? I have, both at Disney (mostly EE) and Universal. There are plenty of parties of 3 and 5. There will be lots of folks using single rider at the beginning to try to avoid the lines, it will die down eventually.
    I have a little (not a ton) of single rider experience, and those that I have experienced tend to follow the pattern I suggested. I guess my point is/was: all else being equal, would single rider load faster on RnRC or Test Track? In my experience it is clearly Test Track.

    And I think the math/logic makes sense. Single riders get to load on TT with groups of 2, 4, or 5. On a configuration like RnRC, single riders only load with 3 or 5. Single riders load regardless if there's a group of 5, so there's no difference in those cases. But on one ride they load with 2/4, and another they only load with 3. While there are plenty of groups of 3, there are simply more total groups of 2 or 4 than groups of 3. So it stands to reason that single rider lines would move faster on rides with rows of 3 than rows of 2, assuming all else is equal.

    All that being said, Hagrid's is a unique animal (er, "mythical creature"?). As another post alluded to, the guy behind us in line yesterday asked at the single rider cutoff if the preshow was included, and was told that the preshow was not, so he stayed in the regular line. Over time, tendencies like these will change and effect how single rider works.

    If you think I'm wrong, that's fine, I'm just trying to explain my logic and reasoning. And most importantly, what I did experience yesterday is that people who arrived at the park the same time that I did and chose single rider at the cutoff point were in the exact same position as me. So if you think it will save you time, it probably won't in the near future. Though it would likely change in the long run.
     

    ray3127

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    There are single rider lines at other parks with roller coasters and its almost always faster in that line. Don't understand why all of a sudden it won't work on this line.
    I agree, under normal circumstances it would certainly be faster in single rider than the main queue. Who knows when Hagrid's will reach "normal" though? It hasn't been normal so far.

    And my general point was that since it's a 2-seater the benefit won't be quite as good as other configurations (like TT's 3-seater), which I explained in detail in previous post. But I definitely agree it will ultimately be faster than riding in the main queue once the madness dies down.
     

    imprint

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    I've heard that larger riders will be more likely to fit on the bike than the sidecar. If a party of two both need the bike, will they be able to split, or will one be forced to try the sidecar and possibly be denied? Either way, that might open more sidecar spots. Just spitballing here.
     

    damo

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    I'm sure there will be lots of opportunities for single riders. At the moment, though, you still have to go through the normal line and then are just calling out for single riders as you get near loading.
     

    mom4fun

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    My son was able to get in a single rider line yesterday, after the initial 1 hour wait. He arrived at 3:35. The time stated at the beginning was 6 hours. He rode it in 3 hours. Also, he did not have a bag which makes a big difference because they bring those people closer up.
     

    KAT4DISNEY

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    I have a little (not a ton) of single rider experience, and those that I have experienced tend to follow the pattern I suggested. I guess my point is/was: all else being equal, would single rider load faster on RnRC or Test Track? In my experience it is clearly Test Track.

    And I think the math/logic makes sense. Single riders get to load on TT with groups of 2, 4, or 5. On a configuration like RnRC, single riders only load with 3 or 5. Single riders load regardless if there's a group of 5, so there's no difference in those cases. But on one ride they load with 2/4, and another they only load with 3. While there are plenty of groups of 3, there are simply more total groups of 2 or 4 than groups of 3. So it stands to reason that single rider lines would move faster on rides with rows of 3 than rows of 2, assuming all else is equal.

    All that being said, Hagrid's is a unique animal (er, "mythical creature"?). As another post alluded to, the guy behind us in line yesterday asked at the single rider cutoff if the preshow was included, and was told that the preshow was not, so he stayed in the regular line. Over time, tendencies like these will change and effect how single rider works.

    If you think I'm wrong, that's fine, I'm just trying to explain my logic and reasoning. And most importantly, what I did experience yesterday is that people who arrived at the park the same time that I did and chose single rider at the cutoff point were in the exact same position as me. So if you think it will save you time, it probably won't in the near future. Though it would likely change in the long run.
    You're assuming that all single riders go thru the single rider line which isn't true. And for things to work the way you suggest it implies that the single rider line is at a rate that is in the norm of 1/2 of the main line so that if a single rider isn't seated in every car then it will be slower. Or even 1/4 the number so that if a single rider isn't seated every other group with it will be slower. It doesn't matter so much if there are more families that are even numbered or odd numbered but how the ratio is between the single rider line and the main line.
     

    skylock

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    You're assuming that all single riders go thru the single rider line which isn't true. And for things to work the way you suggest it implies that the single rider line is at a rate that is in the norm of 1/2 of the main line so that if a single rider isn't seated in every car then it will be slower. Or even 1/4 the number so that if a single rider isn't seated every other group with it will be slower. It doesn't matter so much if there are more families that are even numbered or odd numbered but how the ratio is between the single rider line and the main line.
    I don't think you are going to convince him and in the end, what does it matter.

    He is overlooking a lot a variables with his even number people visiting idea. If me, my sister, my son, and grandma visit, we are even, but grandma will not be riding, so we become odd. If a larger couple are in line, but both need the motorbike, again, a couple becomes singles even on a two seater ride.
     

    Chiasgirl

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    Slinky Dog Dash at Hollywood Studios sends even numbered parties down one line and odd numbered parties down the other. Over the 6 times we rode it, we did not notice a discernible difference in one side being faster or shorter than the other side.
     

    Disxuni

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    He is overlooking a lot a variables with his even number people visiting idea. If me, my sister, my son, and grandma visit, we are even, but grandma will not be riding, so we become odd. If a larger couple are in line, but both need the motorbike, again, a couple becomes singles even on a two seater ride.
    I wouldn't say the couple becomes singles, as they would be sitting behind each other, however, they would need two singles to replace who would be in the bike car, as they're not going to spend time seeing if there happens to be a couple that both want to be in the bike car, they're going to just pick from the SR line. It happens a lot on FJ. They might ask once if their is another couple, but if no one responses, they used two SRs. Due to coupling and even pairs being essential for this to work, it would be a lot of work to incorporate odds and evens in the mix (unlike a roller coaster that has multiple seats and a lot more rows), the minute there is an odd pairing, they're going to just get another SR more than likely. It's easier to do so.
     

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