Star Wars: The Last Jedi Trailer 2

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  1. TheMaxRebo

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    and Rain Johnson had put out there initially that if you "want to come in clean" to not watch the trailer - while many were suggesting this was to avoid spoilers in the trailer (and I am sure there are some) I think it is also due to all the misdirection in the trailer and that you may now anticipate things happening that won't actually happen
     
  2. mcjaco

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    The story behind them, is that they learned from the design mistakes of the AT-AT, and tow cables being able to take them down. The front feet dig into the ground for stability and balance, when firing their main canon, as well (above the head).

    Yep. I do like how they are tying in the old equipment, with new designs in this movie.
     
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  4. ShadeDK

    ShadeDK Permanently Staying in Room 237

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    I love AT-ATs. One of my favorite vehicles in the entire SW Galaxy. I even have a model one on my desk. That said, I'm always reminded how horribly impractical and absurd they are (maybe that's why I love them). As an example (from Cracked (warning: adult language on the actual site): http://www.cracked.com/article_18699_6-baffling-flaws-in-famous-sci-fi-technology.html)

    The dreaded Imperial Walker, or All Terrain Armored Transport, is frequently considered the single coolest vehicle in the entire Star Wars universe. The moment the rebels spotted these things on the horizon in The Empire Strikes Back, the only question was exactly how much of their stuff they could pack before they flew screaming off the planet.

    The Flaw:

    In addition to being huge battle robots of death, the Imperial Walkers also boast a blind spot in excess of 300 degrees. The thing can't turn its head. Specifically, it can only turn its head [just a tiny bit]. This is not a minor issue. That up there is an AT-AT trying to shoot an enemy ship that's flying past it. That's as far as it gets; it's like a huge, muscular guy who happens to have his head frozen in a neck brace due to a crippling spinal injury. The only difference being that guy could still conceivably punch an enemy by swinging at him wildly. Meanwhile, all of the AT-ATs guns are glued to that non-swiveling head. This would not be a problem if, say, the walkers were extremely fast and maneuverable. For instance, in the real world, jet fighters have all of their weapons pointing forward, too. But they also go faster than the speed of sound. These [bad boys], on the other hand, have the top-speed of a Geo Metro driving across a river. It takes them what looks like an entire day to execute a full U-turn. That's good news for you if you're Luke Skywalker, because if you get within 20 yards of one, it can't hit you to save its life. Also, the Empire seems to have constructed the Walkers without considering that most militia battles are not fought thirty stories above ground, so the tank commanders spend the entire day on Hoth with their chins to their chests trying to see what they're supposed to be shooting at.

    The only reason the rebels had such trouble with them is because the speeders insisted on using what Luke referred to as "Attack Pattern Delta", which appears to mean, "fly directly at the enemy in the one single spot where they are able to shoot us."
     
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  5. TheMaxRebo

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    It will be interesting to see if the new version addresses any of those other issues - like can they fire in other directions? Turn their "heads" more, etc.? ... or are they just a bit harder to knock over, but still have the same other flaws?
     
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    Always curious to see new twists on old designs, but I'm okay if they keep many of the same old flaws. I don't mind if the concepts aren't actually practical or realistic - there's still the cool factor. And AT-ATs are undeniably cool. If we did go down that road, however, I'm pretty sure that some middle manager or engineer down at the Kuat Drive Yards is losing their job or getting force choked for that one. AT-AT: an exemplar of all the things that can go wrong in Imperial government procurement and defense spending.
     
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    A lot of those flaws (aside from head maneuverability) is supposed to be covered by the AT-ST. They’re supposed to be deployed in tandem, with the ST acting as an escort of sorts until the AT gets into range
     
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  8. jknezek

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    No... No.... Just no. I refuse to get drawn into an actual discussion of the battle tactics and feasibility of equipment in Star Wars. The only thing that can come out of it is that the whole series is ruined by reality. We are not going to mention how AT-STs, a futuristic tank, can apparently be crushed by 2 swinging logs since they are made of tissue paper and not metal. And we are not going to talk about how a giant space snake can live in an asteroid with no atmosphere and nothing to eat. Or how a floating city orbiting a gas giant would have atmosphere outside the city.

    People.... if you truly love Star Wars, you have to accept that reality and common sense have no place in that fantasy universe.
     
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    Absolutely ... and a reason to remember that Star Wars is not science fiction (there is a reason it specifically mentions being set "long, long ago") - Star Trek is science fiction and thus what they show needs to be based in reality of what could be - Star Wars does not need to be beholden to such things
     
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    I feel bad for Chewie. He was always a sidekick, and now his partner is dead. Is he just going to go to being someone else's sidekick? Maybe he'll get his own story.
     
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    Hmm... Disney's version of the Minions movie where the main characters can barely be understood? Probably not going to be a winner. Chewie, and all Wookies, will forever be sidekick material.
     
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    They can pair him up with 3PO. 3PO will translate and he never stops talking so there will be plenty of dialogue.
     
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  13. TheMaxRebo

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    well, in the trailer seems like he has a Porg for a sidekick
     
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    I Love Chewie. I really do. He's Awesome. And the porg is okay. Finn, Poe, Rey and Luke look really interesting.

    However, Rian Johnson is going to have a hard time making me feel bad for Kylo Ren.
    I am sorry I just think he's a whiny jerk. I want Chewie to give him a piece of his mind. "I don't care what Kylo's damage is." You can't kill your past jerk. It will catch up with you eventually. And it looks like it does in the trailer. But I could be wrong

    This has nothing to do with Adam Driver. I've seen him in other things. He's fine. It just this character is like nails on a chalkboard for me.
     
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    Yeah I wasn’t thrilled about his character in FA. hopefully they add some depth to him in this film
     
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    I thought the comedy stuff with chewie was jar jar borderline bad.

    It's not that he didn't have funny moments as originally portrayed...but he never told jokes.
     
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  18. umichigan10

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    I didn’t mind it (assuming you’re referring to the crossbow moments) but I thought it was overdone because they used it like 3 times in the course of the film
     
  19. lockedoutlogic

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    ...no...talking to the nurse
     
  20. TheMaxRebo

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    I do think there is potential for a character like that who maybe is trying to pretend to be "badder" than he really is .... but yeah, he really just came off like a whiny teenager in much of the FA

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    I kinda forgot about that part, but I don’t even think that registers on the jar jar radar
     

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