Teacher handcuffed leaving school board meeting

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  1. NHdisneylover

    NHdisneylover DIS Veteran

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    http://abcnews.go.com/US/teacher-louisiana-handcuffed-school-board-meeting/story?id=52244854

    I'd be curious to get some Disser views on this.

    I feel like, unless there is a whole lot of stuff the teacher did that was threatening, etc that is simply not being shown (I am going to guess not given the district not pressing charges) that this was out of line on the part of the deputy and maybe also district officials.

    And defending it by saying they'd treat a student the same way jsut makes it worse, IMO. first of all, a non violent student shouldn't be treated like that.
    Secondly, a school board meeting format should include allowing discourse and debate/questions from the floor in a way that a classroom lecture might not always be meant to do.

    I will be curious to see what else comes to light from this---I wonder if others also had cameras rolling that we'll see soon.
     
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  2. Shanti

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    We can't really judge either way as the reason why the officer cuffed the teacher is unclear. It happened outside the meeting hall, without witnesses who have commented at this point. So we don't know if this woman was violent/threatening toward the officer, or if the officer was misusing his power. It could be either.

    That said, I am concerned by how more & more ordinary people seem to be severely "punished", for lack of a better term, for speaking out/talking back, in a variety of settings, these days. This is America, and we're supposed to value free speech and individual dignity.
     
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  4. NHdisneylover

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    true that there is not a full video of what else mnight have happened in the hall.

    I am curious as to why she was told she had to leave the meeting in the first place---at least given what is shown on the videos (including another school board member later seeming to think making her leave was uncalled for).
     
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  5. Shanti

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    She was thrown out for speaking out of turn, apparently. I'm a teacher & know that school board meetings are formal (in terms of who speaks & when) & provide minimal opportunities for input. Educational administration is a top-down heirarchy.
     
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  6. sam_gordon

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    From what I can tell based on the article...

    1) During the meeting, the teacher questioned the new contract with a raise.
    2) Deputy told her to sit down or be removed.
    3) She left on her own
    4) Something happened outside the room and the deputy handcuffed her.
    5) Prosecutor drops the charge.
    6) School board member said this has never happened to a man, so it must be because the teacher is a woman.

    It's another example of a poorly written article. What was the charge (that was dropped)? Why was she asked to sit down? What happened outside the room? What does the deputy say (shouldn't there be a report even if charges are dropped)? What does the teacher say?
     
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  7. sam_gordon

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    Was that mentioned in another article?
     
  8. Pacolovestacos

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    Yea she was thrown out for that but it looks like she was just going to be able to walk out. But she must have said something or done something as she left the room which caused the officer to cuff her.
     
  9. Pacolovestacos

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    One other question is "how long was the teacher talking for?" You're allowed to make your point but you're not allowed to hijack the proceedings.
     
  10. Shanti

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    No, that is my assumption, as I know that school board meetings provide minimal opportunity for input, especially from teachers.

    But if she was just thrown out only for saying the "wrong" thing when she was allowed to speak, that is much worse. It's already a dismaying situation where that much force was used. It likely was not necessary.
     
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  11. Soldier's*Sweeties

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    I hate article like this. Being a teacher doesn’t make one above the law. They always seems to pit the “good guy”(teacher) against the “bad guy”(officer).

    We have no idea what led to that point after she left the meeting. Just because she’s saying she didn’t do anything and that the officer “pushed her to the floor” doesn’t mean anything. Most people who are being arrested start yelling stuff like that...

    And why wouldn’t he treat a student the same way? If their behavior required that response they should be treated the same way.

    ... this is assuming the officer acted correctly for the situation.
     
  12. jdb in AZ

    jdb in AZ It could end up curdled

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    The news report I saw said the teacher was protesting because the superintendent received a $38,000 raise, while the teachers and cafeteria workers and other support staff hadn't received a raise in a decade.
     
  13. Southernmiss

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    That's what I heard. If this is true, good for the teacher for standing up.

    What is the reason that the board would do this and not give raises to other employees?
     
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    Looked s little excessive and it was about big pay hike for superintendent.
    But it looks like she was being little difficult in parking lot.
     
  15. Pacolovestacos

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    The handcuffing wasn't about her giving her opinion.
     
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  16. punkin

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    I just read some of the articles...looks like a lot of butt covering going on. I smell a big fat settlement payout to the teacher.
     
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  17. Pacolovestacos

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    Maybe that's what she was secretly hoping for in lieu of the raise.
     
  18. Micca

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    I saw a version of that article and I too was uncertain about exactly what went down. The optics aren't good for the way it was handled, but if the whole story is in there I couldn't find it. @sam_gordon did a good job with the bullet points.
     
  19. tvguy

    tvguy Question anything the facts don't support.

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    The reporter's narration says she was called on for a second time. The issue, according to the report, was this was a public comment session, and she was asking questions. Pretty thin line.
    Bottom line, the taxpayers are probably going to be paying her a settlement. The Marshall may, or may not be disciplined or fired.
     
  20. tvguy

    tvguy Question anything the facts don't support.

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    According to the reporter's track, no charges were filed, so nothing to drop. Not sure whose authority the Marshall was acting under. Seems odd that the School Board would call on someone a second time if they didn't want to hear what she had to say or ask. Retired ABC White House Correspondent Sam Donaldson has some experience with what happens when you have asked a question someone (Presidents in his case) doesn't like. You don't get called on.
     
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    I have serious concerns at the current trend of "charges were dropped" in situations that seem overboard....if the behavior didn't warrant the carrying out of the charged "crime", then why the detainment in the first place?
     
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