The Trip That Finally Made My Wife Haul Off And Slug Me In The Face (COMPLETED 10/2)

While the boss is away....Lisa catches up on trip reports. I was so far behind that I had to go back and read some of the other updates to refresh my memory. As always, your reports of your family's shenanigans had me laughing out loud, especially the one about the mosquitoes and the Everglades. That's pretty much how they are here in the swampy parts of North Louisiana so I felt every little blood sucking pain you were describing.

Better late than never! Thanks for coming back. If I never see those mosquitoes again, it will be too soon.

Just as I thought you were done with the tales, I saw the Bonus Anniversary posts! Yay! More to read!

...said no one, ever.

One reason why I don't frequent other sites. Just... who needs that?

It's amazing what people are willing to say when they're not face-to-face with the person on the other end of the conversation.
 
Thought one: late July might be a good time to consider the Star Gazing that should be going on at the top of the ridge the evening you arrive.

That would be pretty cool. My current plan might make it tough, though. If we're there on our first night we'll basically be on East Coast time and nightfall would feel like midnight to us.

Thought two: there are three basic ways of getting up to Port Angeles from SeaTac.
A: Via Tacoma Narrows Bridge. Google will tell you this is the “quickest” route but the locals call it “the long way”. The upsides are that while you will go about forty miles out of your way, you don’t have to catch one of the ferries or pay any tolls (since the toll is only collected east-bound).

B & C: involve catching a ferry. This would be an experience that is “iconic-ly” related to the Puget Sound area, but it will cost you about $35 (16.60 for the driver and the van, 8.20 for second adult, 4.10 each for young’ens under 18 and zero for young’ens under 6). If you choose to do this, either the Bainbridge or Kingston ferries will work and they both have pros and cons. If there is no construction or severe rush hour traffic on I-5, I’d drive north to Edmonds and catch that one over to Kingston. It’s a more direct route to the upper part of the peninsula. The main ferry from downtown over to Bainbridge Island will work as well, but you’d have to deal with driving in downtown Seattle and the denser commuter traffic on that route.

I think the ferry would probably be more fun and interesting (although we engineers usually have a perverse interest in the Tacoma Narrows Bridge). I think it will depend on timing and how cheap we are. But thanks for the info!

Don’t know exactly when you’ll be landing out there, but here’s a few notions on either lunch or dinner… If traveling via the Edmonds-Kingston ferry and you’re looking for a local establishment that is right cheap, there’s “Dick’s Drive-in”; local chain that is a late-night legend in the area with a limited menu. There is one located a short detour away from the Edmonds Ferry terminal on SR-99. If you travel via either of the ferries, you’ll basically have to drive through (or very near) Port Gamble where you’ll find “Butcher & Baker Provisions”. That one is rather more expensive but we enjoyed it mightily (do check the menu though to make sure it’s not too far off in left field for y’all). In Port Angeles proper we also hit a place called Downriggers. It’s smack downtown, overlooking the water, right beside the Waterfront Park and had a broad menu with lots of burgers in particular (and there are a lot of other local eateries to choose from in that general area)

Cool! Excellent research material!

Another (very likely) useless notion… if for some reason you have a gracious amount of time to travel that day, and… happen to be headed up toward the Edmonds-Kingston ferry… You could go a bit farther north to the Paine Field area and take in either the “Future of Flight Aviation Center” (which is basically the Boeing Factory Tour) or the “Flying Heritage & Combat Armor Museum” (which is basically Paul Allen’s private collection built from his Microsoft bucks but open to the public).

Is that the Museum of Flight at the Boeing factory, or is it something different? That was definitely a probable visit on the agenda. Probably later in the trip when we circle back towards Seattle.

You probably already have an idea of what y’all want to do for the day you spend in Seattle so it might be best to just let you do what catches you fancy. If you tell me what you’ve currently got in mind I can kibitz a bit and offer up any cautions or caveats that I’ve learned over time. One thing I will say though is that if you are thinking about spending any time at all in the Pike Place Market, I can send you an excellent map and listing of where to find the best food without getting lost in all the madness.

I think it would include a visit to the Museum of Flight, Space Needle, NPS Klondike Gold Rush office, and yes--I think Pike Place Market is one of those spots you have to visit. Right? There's always the possibility of a stadium tour too.

As an expert explorer of National Parks, I’m sure you’ve got this figured out already as well.
That said, I’d approach Rainer from the Nisqually entrance, hit it as early as possible and try to travel the whole “Road to Paradise” from Ashford around to Packwood. Longmire Museum & Trail of the Shadows, Narada Falls, Glacier Vista, Reflection Lakes and Grove of the Patriarchs would be the point’s I’d try to catch along the way (but like I said, you probably already got that figured).

For a driving adventure, you can get from Packwood back to Ashford via the Skate Creek Rd (NF-52).

Another thought while you’re out that way (that unfortunately takes time and money) would be the Mt. Rainier Railroad and Logging Museum in Elbe.

I will probably be going in the opposite direction. The current plan is to be heading to Mt. Rainier after visiting Glacier National Park. I was thinking of staying in Packwood the night before in order to get an early start into the park the following day. But the downside is that I may not make it to the north side of the park.

But it is a major destination for Southwest Airlines.
A lack of competition has an outsized effect on things. Southwest only has a hand full of flights in and out of CLT, so American (who uses it as a hub and controls 85% of the gates) can charge what they please.

Time to start those flying lessons!

And a necessary one in some places…
Like here…
So much so that I just dropped over a grand replacing the system in one of our cars.
(it was better that buying a new car, at least)

Definitely better than a new car. These things are money pits.

Well there is that, but this time I was on about potential variety.
With my young’en back in school now, our cuisine options have expanded by an order of magnitude.

Ah, I gotcha. That does make sense.

And you should.
I don’t try to stop folks from going to “The Wall”; I just detest their management and destructive practices on principal. That said, there are times when it is either the best or only option, so I’m not hypocritical about refusing to patronize them under all circumstances.


Just as many circumstances as I can get away with…

You do what you gotta do.

If not, I’m sure the folks in the rooms on either side of you won’t mind if you read by the light of their bon fires they got going in the parking lot (so long as you prove that you ain’t under cover or any kind of government employee).

Actually, that government ID comes in handy sometimes when I'm trying to get decent hotel rates.
 
Bonus Chapter 2: Long Walks In The Middle Of Nowhere


When you’ve finally ditched the kids and get some long-awaited alone time with your significant other, what’s the first thing you do? Well, you fly somewhere, rent a car, and then drive 5 hours into the wilderness, of course. But then, after a good night’s sleep, what’s the second thing you do? Sleep in? Relax in the hot tub? Settle in by the pool with a good book?


Of course not! You wake up early and set off for some long hikes in the middle of nowhere. Duh.


Julie and I grabbed breakfast at the hotel and then set off around 7:15 a.m. It helped to still be somewhat on East Coast time. Just a couple of miles down the road from our hotel was Capitol Reef National Park.


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Capitol Reef is one of five national parks in the state of Utah (the others being Arches, Canyonlands, Bryce Canyon, and Zion) and was the only one Julie and I hadn’t seen. Exploring this park was our first piece of unfinished business. We started early because a) Rope Drop always works to beat crowds, and b) summer temperatures in Utah will commonly reach the 90’s or even 100 degrees F, so it’s a good idea to get your hiking done before the hottest part of the day. Thankfully, the highs here were only supposed to be in the mid-80’s that day.


Capitol Reef gets its title from a large formation of red rock—a wall that has been formed as a “fold”, or wrinkle in the earth’s crust. This fold happens to extend for 87 miles deep in the heart of Utah. Settlers gave it the name “Capitol Reef”—the wall of rock acts as a reef, or barrier, and a formation on the southern end resembled the Capitol Building in Washington D.C. Geologists refer to the formation as the “Waterpocket Fold”—the fold referring to the wrinkle in the earth’s crust and Waterpocket referring to small sinks and depressions in the surface of the rock that collect water whenever it rains. All of this basically serves to give two completely different names to the same geological formation. For our purposes, it’s a big wall of red rock that has been carved over the eons to give us lots of formations and canyons to explore.


Our first stop was just a few miles into the park at a turnout and small parking area on the side of the main road. From a viewing area, we could see petroglyphs carved into the rock wall by some of the earliest inhabitants of the region.


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I still believe preserving these petroglyphs is hypocritical. I mean, it's nothing but ancient graffiti, right? And they're stick figures! I could do that. But if I start drawing on the canyon walls, I'll get arrested and fined. Clearly a double standard.


We moved down the road another mile or two and parked at a trailhead. The trail actually served a couple of different routes. Day-hikers could climb all the way up the mountain to a couple of different overlooks. We opted for the shorter trail (just under a mile) to Hickman Bridge. Follow this link for a map showing the various hiking trails in the area. We hiked a couple more of these later in the day (spoiler alert).


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Temps had dropped into the 50’s at night, so I actually had a sweatshirt on when I started the hike. It didn’t last long once I got into the sunlight.


The trail was a steep climb at the beginning, but once we crested a ridge it leveled out a bit, alternating between climbs and drops. We rounded a final turn and got our first view of the Hickman Bridge formation.


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Hmm. That’s a little hard to see. Let’s get a bit closer.


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Then we’ll put some ugly guy in the photo for scale.


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You know what would be better? A hot model.


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One of the coolest aspects of the hike was that the trail took us under the arch. Or at least, it was supposed to according to the map. The trail kind of disappeared once we made our way there, so we ended up making our way through it Indiana Jones-style. Julie only tried to push me off the edge once or twice, so she was on her best behavior.


The view on the other side was nice. Red Rock Country is just gorgeous.


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On the way back to the car, we found this sign on the trail that I’d somehow failed to notice on the climb up. It is a little suspicious that Julie didn’t mention it to me when I paused along the way.


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We drove to the east park boundary and then turned around, stopping at the east trailhead for the Grand Wash trail. This trail is a canyon (or “wash”) that cuts through the fold. Hiking here is not recommended during storms because—well, water flows downhill. And this is where it all goes when it rains. Luckily for us, it was bright and sunny that day.


This trail is nice and easy—basically flat. You get to walk right up to some sheer canyon walls along the way.


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The coolest part of the trail involves a section called “The Narrows”, where the walls get pretty tight on either side of the path as it twists through the rock.


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After this part, the trail widens again until you eventually reach a parking lot on the west side. We didn’t go all the way—we turned around and headed back to collect our car, seeing as the car didn’t actually belong to us. Rental companies tend to look down on people abandoning their property.


Two hikes down, and it was still only mid-morning. We drove to the visitor center to check out the exhibits and stamp our National Park passport. Then we got back in the car and turned to the south along the park’s scenic drive—which lived up to its name.


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This was a formation called the Egyptian Temple. I don’t have my notes in front of me, but I’m going to assume that’s because it resembles an Egyptian Temple. I mean, as far as I know. I’ve never been to Egypt.


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We made it to the end of the road, where it turns to dirt and you can drive along Capitol Gorge. It was here that we turned around, but not before a photo shoot to prove we were there.


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Julie thought these formations looked like fossilized pasta.


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The abandoned town of Fruita is the hub for the park, where the visitor center is located. Settlers didn’t reach the area until 1872 and didn’t try to make a go of it here until 1879. The population never exceeded ten families. They built orchards as an attempt to become self-sufficient. But despite struggling along for several decades, the town never really grew, and eventually the National Park Service bought all of the land in order to make it part of the park. The orchards survived, however, and guests are invited to pick fruit and enjoy it on property as they please (if you want to take some home, there’s a small fee).


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We drove back west, making one more stop in the park—a third and final hike to Sunset Point. As you may have deduced, this is a viewpoint that gives visitors spectacular views of the Waterpocket Fold during sunset. Naturally, we visited right around noon.


Oh, well. The views are still beautiful.


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I tried to get Julie to help me pull off one of my patented Dad Joke photos, but she didn’t want anything to do with it, citing such irrational fears as the “700-ft. plunge to my death”. What a spoil-sport. Anyway, it didn’t turn out as well as I’d hoped.


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With that, we were finished with Capitol Reef, and had checked the final box for National Parks in the state of Utah. These five parks have a deserving reputation as show-stoppers—there’s not a bland one in the group. I think Julie and I would both list Utah among our favorite states in the U.S. just because these parks are so spectacular.


We stopped at Slacker’s Burger Joint in Torrey for lunch, and enjoyed it for the simple reason that it didn’t serve peanut-butter-and-jelly sandwiches. As a bonus, they gave us helpful instructions on using the toilet.


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We filled up with gas at the only station in town, perfectly positioned to gouge tourists. Then we headed south on Rt. 12 for a 2-hour drive. Rt. 12 turned out to be one of the more beautiful drives we’ve ever taken. After climbing the mountains, we stopped at the Larb Hollow Overlook, which afforded a great panorama of Capitol Reef and the La Sal Mountains, 110 miles away to the east.


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We then entered the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument, which gave us more views of spectacular red rock country.


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I think it’s safe to say that the views don’t really get old here. And they were about to get even better.


Coming Up Next: Re-visiting an old favorite.
 
Bonus Chapter 2: Long Walks In The Middle Of Nowhere
Wait! Bonus for who? Are you trying to say this is somehow a bonus for us?


Well, okay, I'll concede you could potentially be correct, but don't let it go to your head.



Then we’ll put some ugly guy in the photo for scale.


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Hey, did you notice some ugly guy photo bombed your picture?

You know what would be better? A hot model.


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::yes:: Much better



On the way back to the car, we found this sign on the trail that I’d somehow failed to notice on the climb up. It is a little suspicious that Julie didn’t mention it to me when I paused along the way.


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How big is your life insurance policy? Might have something to do with her not saying.



The coolest part of the trail involves a section called “The Narrows”, where the walls get pretty tight on either side of the path as it twists through the rock.


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Watch out! I think them varmits is a ready to ambush ya. The lone ranger and tonto you're not! Did I just hear you say Hi-yo aluminum?


This was a formation called the Egyptian Temple. I don’t have my notes in front of me, but I’m going to assume that’s because it resembles an Egyptian Temple. I mean, as far as I know. I’ve never been to Egypt.


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I think you're making that up. Oh wait, you said you're A$$uming. You know what that does? Hold on a sec...that phrase goes you and me. I don't like you anymore.

We made it to the end of the road, where it turns to dirt and you can drive along Capitol Gorge. It was here that we turned around, but not before a photo shoot to prove we were there.


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All of them are good photos, but I like this one the best. Aside from that ugly guy photobombing the good looking girl again.



So, you can eat of the forbidden fruit, but you can't take it with you. Got it. Not Eden.

We drove back west, making one more stop in the park—a third and final hike to Sunset Point. As you may have deduced, this is a viewpoint that gives visitors spectacular views of the Waterpocket Fold during sunset. Naturally, we visited right around noon.
Naturally. Wait!!! The pitcher threw it to who?

Oh, well. The views are still beautiful.
::yes::

I tried to get Julie to help me pull off one of my patented Dad Joke photos, but she didn’t want anything to do with it, citing such irrational fears as the “700-ft. plunge to my death”. What a spoil-sport. Anyway, it didn’t turn out as well as I’d hoped.


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Wait, did you survive? Is this really Mark reporting this or did someone manage to collect his life insurance and run off with a French model she found on the Internet. Bone Jure.

We stopped at Slacker’s Burger Joint in Torrey for lunch, and enjoyed it for the simple reason that it didn’t serve peanut-butter-and-jelly sandwiches. As a bonus, they gave us helpful instructions on using the toilet.


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No PB&J is good.
They knew you were coming and since it wasn't a road, knew you needed extra instructions?

Coming Up Next: Re-visiting an old favorite.
Ooooh, ooooh. I hope it's Zion or Bryce. I will blatantly steal....err gladly accept any pictures from there. When we went, the pictures we got were okay, but we didn't have a good camera and I think some of the film (yep, it was back before digital) got damaged in the heat.
 
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But then, after a good night’s sleep, what’s the second thing you do? Sleep in?

:wave: That's what I usually do, and plan to a week from today!

Julie and I grabbed breakfast at the hotel and then set off around 7:15 a.m.

That hour usually means getting up for a bio break and going back to sleep! :faint:

Capitol Reef is one of five national parks in the state of Utah (the others being Arches, Canyonlands, Bryce Canyon, and Zion)

OK, I've done 3 out of 5. Still need Capitol Reef and Arches.

All of this basically serves to give two completely different names to the same geological formation.

Got it. Makes perfect sense.

I still believe preserving these petroglyphs is hypocritical. I mean, it's nothing but ancient graffiti, right? And they're stick figures! I could do that. But if I start drawing on the canyon walls, I'll get arrested and fined. Clearly a double standard.

Or you could figure that this was their only paper that they had back then, and who knows what important facts could be here, it could be their Constitution, Code of Laws, or then again maybe it's just a comic book.

We rounded a final turn and got our first view of the Hickman Bridge formation.

That's cool! I'm glad you zoomed in and included the humans for scale, I couldn't make it out for the first picture.

Then we got back in the car and turned to the south along the park’s scenic drive—which lived up to its name.

Your pictures are reminding me of our trip four years ago, such beautiful scenery!

As a bonus, they gave us helpful instructions on using the toilet.

Great sign! :rotfl2:

I think it’s safe to say that the views don’t really get old here. And they were about to get even better.

Wow! Cool!
 
When you’ve finally ditched the kids and get some long-awaited alone time with your significant other, what’s the first thing you do?

Giggle uncontrollably? Jump up and down on the furniture? Fain in amazement?

Well, you fly somewhere, rent a car, and then drive 5 hours into the wilderness, of course.

Or that. That works too.

But then, after a good night’s sleep, what’s the second thing you do? Sleep in? Relax in the hot tub? Settle in by the pool with a good book?

No. You're parents. You've lost the ability to sleep in. That's how it works.

Of course not! You wake up early and set off for some long hikes in the middle of nowhere. Duh.

See?

Capitol Reef is one of five national parks in the state of Utah

That alone is... pretty incredible.

Rope Drop always works to beat crowds,

::yes::

This fold happens to extend for 87 miles deep in the heart of Utah.

Holy smokes! That's.... huge!

and a formation on the southern end resembled the Capitol Building in Washington D.C.

Cool!

we could see petroglyphs carved into the rock wall by some of the earliest inhabitants of the region.

Also cool. Basically a "we were here" sign. I like it.

I still believe preserving these petroglyphs is hypocritical. I mean, it's nothing but ancient graffiti, right? And they're stick figures! I could do that. But if I start drawing on the canyon walls, I'll get arrested and fined. Clearly a double standard.

:laughing

Okay. Serious, if somewhat unreal question.

Aliens land on the planet. They say they have the technology to bring forward one person from the past, but they get to pick what that person will do. You may agree or veto the project. They say they are bringing forward DaVinci. But he's going to paint over those petroglyphs.

Do you allow it?

How could you? How could you not?


Dang that's pretty.

The trail was a steep climb at the beginning

So... do you guys just power up those climbs? Or do you take them slow? Or fast with breaks? Or?

We rounded a final turn and got our first view of the Hickman Bridge formation.


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ummm…. where?

Hmm. That’s a little hard to see. Let’s get a bit closer.


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Ah! Got it now. Thanks.

Then we’ll put some ugly guy in the photo for scale.

Ew. Stop.

You know what would be better? A hot model.

Much better. ::yes::

The trail kind of disappeared once we made our way there, so we ended up making our way through it Indiana Jones-style.

Like this????



Julie only tried to push me off the edge once or twice, so she was on her best behavior.

Sure. You go on thinking that.
Julie: "I could just push him off the edge... wait... if I twist my ankle or get bit by a rattle snake, I'll need him to carry me back to the car. I'll let him live."

On the way back to the car, we found this sign on the trail that I’d somehow failed to notice on the climb up. It is a little suspicious that Julie didn’t mention it to me when I paused along the way.


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:laughing:
Good thing you didn't stop to take photos or anything.

Hiking here is not recommended during storms because—well, water flows downhill. And this is where it all goes when it rains.

eep! I'd hate to get caught by a sudden freak thunderstorm.


That's a pretty cool shot. :)


Wow! I love this.

After this part, the trail widens again until you eventually reach a parking lot on the west side.

Mother Nature, you crazy!

We didn’t go all the way—we turned around and headed back to collect our car, seeing as the car didn’t actually belong to us. Rental companies tend to look down on people abandoning their property.

Meh. Next time pay the $25 insurance fee and ditch it.

Then we got back in the car and turned to the south along the park’s scenic drive—which lived up to its name.

Does it ever! Gorgeous!

This was a formation called the Egyptian Temple. I don’t have my notes in front of me, but I’m going to assume that’s because it resembles an Egyptian Temple. I mean, as far as I know. I’ve never been to Egypt.

I've never been either, so.... yes! Exactly like that!


Just... jaw dropping.
You must have been driving (or hiking) along and constantly oohing and ahhing.

Julie thought these formations looked like fossilized pasta.

I can see that. :)

The orchards survived, however, and guests are invited to pick fruit and enjoy it on property as they please

What kind of fruit are they?

As you may have deduced, this is a viewpoint that gives visitors spectacular views of the Waterpocket Fold during sunset. Naturally, we visited right around noon.

:laughing:

Oh, well. The views are still beautiful.

Agreed!


:lmao:

So Julie wasn't so worried about her ankle after all.

We stopped at Slacker’s Burger Joint in Torrey for lunch, and enjoyed it for the simple reason that it didn’t serve peanut-butter-and-jelly sandwiches.

Hmmm... no review, so... food was merely adequate?


:laughing:


I could have quoted pretty much every photo... wow! You certainly saw some stunning views that day!
 


I've had fun catching up on your report. Practically in tears reading about your original then repeat trip to the Flamingo. One question - what did your family members from the original trip think about you planning a return trip? :rotfl2:

I mean, it's nothing but ancient graffiti, right?

Funny....I was thinking that as I was looking at the pic.
 
Wait! Bonus for who? Are you trying to say this is somehow a bonus for us?


Well, okay, I'll concede you could potentially be correct, but don't let it go to your head.

Of course it's a bonus for you! Isn't this better than doing work?

Hey, did you notice some ugly guy photo bombed your picture?

Yeah, he keeps doing that. Wish I could get rid of him.

::yes:: Much better

So say we all.

How big is your life insurance policy? Might have something to do with her not saying.

She's going to be disappointed if that's the case.

Watch out! I think them varmits is a ready to ambush ya. The lone ranger and tonto you're not! Did I just hear you say Hi-yo aluminum?

I could have defended myself with my water bottle.

I think you're making that up. Oh wait, you said you're A$$uming. You know what that does? Hold on a sec...that phrase goes you and me. I don't like you anymore.

I get that a lot.

All of them are good photos, but I like this one the best. Aside from that ugly guy photobombing the good looking girl again.

I make no secret of the fact that I married way out of my league.

So, you can eat of the forbidden fruit, but you can't take it with you. Got it. Not Eden.

Also, the fate of humankind wasn't resting on my decision. So I had that going for me, which was nice.

Naturally. Wait!!! The pitcher threw it to who?

I don't know. Third base!

Wait, did you survive? Is this really Mark reporting this or did someone manage to collect his life insurance and run off with a French model she found on the Internet. Bone Jure.

This is the internet. I could be the French model for all you know.

No PB&J is good.
They knew you were coming and since it wasn't a road, knew you needed extra instructions?

I think instructions are a good idea. I don't know how often I've walked into a public restroom, taken a look at the toilet, and wondered how hard is it for people to just flush!

Ooooh, ooooh. I hope it's Zion or Bryce. I will blatantly steal....err gladly accept any pictures from there. When we went, the pictures we got were okay, but we didn't have a good camera and I think some of the film (yep, it was back before digital) got damaged in the heat.

It's one of those....

:wave: That's what I usually do, and plan to a week from today!

You can sleep when you're dead!

That hour usually means getting up for a bio break and going back to sleep! :faint:

That's what 3 a.m. is for. :rolleyes1

OK, I've done 3 out of 5. Still need Capitol Reef and Arches.

Every single one of them is worth a visit.

Got it. Makes perfect sense.

I'm glad somebody understands it.

Or you could figure that this was their only paper that they had back then, and who knows what important facts could be here, it could be their Constitution, Code of Laws, or then again maybe it's just a comic book.

All of the above are possible. But then if they moved, they couldn't take their Constitution with them.

That's cool! I'm glad you zoomed in and included the humans for scale, I couldn't make it out for the first picture.

I could tell it would be hard to pick out.

Your pictures are reminding me of our trip four years ago, such beautiful scenery!

Utah really is spectacular!

Great sign! :rotfl2:

I love a place with a sense of humor.
 
Of course it's a bonus for you! Isn't this better than doing work?
::yes:: But still...

Yeah, he keeps doing that. Wish I could get rid of him.
I know, right? He's so pesky!

So say we all.
Regardless of what the rest of us say, YOU BETTER or maybe that life insurance might be an issue.

She's going to be disappointed if that's the case.
So, what you're saying is the policy is correctly sized for the value of the object being insured? :lmao:

I could have defended myself with my water bottle.
Umm, that might actually work if it was a cat...unless of course it was a thirsty cat...I mean you are kinda in a very dry region. I can picture it in my head...Mark trying to fend of a thirsty cat with a water bottle. Get back to work. Hey Mark, where did all those scratches come from? Well...let me tell ya...

I get that a lot.
Huh? what? I don't get it. Obviously you're better than me.

I make no secret of the fact that I married way out of my league.
I think the same could be said for many of us.

Also, the fate of humankind wasn't resting on my decision. So I had that going for me, which was nice.
Truth

I don't know. Third base!
Tomorrow?

This is the internet. I could be the French model for all you know.
This is true. You could be photoshopping all of those pictures and replacing them with ugly photobombing dude or exploding helicopters. ;)

I think instructions are a good idea. I don't know how often I've walked into a public restroom, taken a look at the toilet, and wondered how hard is it for people to just flush!
You speak truth.

It's one of those....
:dancer: :dancer: :dancer:
 
Once again beautiful pictures. This may be more of a question for Julie but um, I don't see many restroom facilities in the middle of nowhere :o sooooo what is a mom to do after drinking the tons of water they keep telling you to drink when you are out there hiking miles and miles in 100 degree blaring sun?? Yes, these are the things I think about when planning a potential vacation. :upsidedow
 
That would be pretty cool. My current plan might make it tough, though. If we're there on our first night we'll basically be on East Coast time and nightfall would feel like midnight to us.
That might be an issue. Especially for the young’ens.
We’d had a couple days to adjust (somewhat), but it was a rather late night adventure


I think the ferry would probably be more fun and interesting
The time available to get out, roam around and see a few things is a definite plus.


(although we engineers usually have a perverse interest in the Tacoma Narrows Bridge).
And I figured that’d be true as well.
Good thing, they didn’t make the same structural mistakes on either of the current bridges.


Is that the Museum of Flight at the Boeing factory, or is it something different?
It’s a different thing.
Museum of Flight is located at “Boeing Field” which is off I-5 north of SeaTac and basically in Seattle proper. If you can only do one that’s the one I’d recommend given your limited time constraints. Especially as the traveling Apollo-11 mission artifacts exhibit will be there in the summer of 2019 (including Columbia). And y’all will be in the area just after the 50th anniversary of the landing.

The Boeing Factory is farther north at Paine Field near Everett.
That is also where Paul Allen’s collection is.


I think it would include a visit to the Museum of Flight, Space Needle, NPS Klondike Gold Rush office, and yes--I think Pike Place Market is one of those spots you have to visit. Right? There's always the possibility of a stadium tour too.
Good list…

A few thoughts
Stadium tour shouldn’t be too hard and it’s near the NPS Klondike site as well. Also see if the Mariners are in town as tickets for their outfield bleachers are relatively cheap (I was there during the All-Star break so I didn’t have that option)

The Needle should be finished with the current renovations by next summer so that is a good thing.
It is iconic, but it’s not cheap. A somewhat less expensive way of getting that kind of view (including looking down on the Needle) would be from the Sky View Observatory at the Columbia Center building. That said… the experience of being at the 62 World’s Fair icon may be more important.

If you are going to “Seattle Center” to see the Needle, and you’re looking for cheap eats, there is a “Dick’s Drive In” a couple blocks from Seattle Center on Queen Anne Ave. Better yet, there is a Monorail that runs between there and the Westlake Center which is an easy walk to (or from) the Market (where “easy” means that the hills are nowhere near as steep there vs a few blocks south of there).

Speaking of the Market, I can email you a handy spreadsheet & map that locates all the purveyors of grub by type and location if you’re interested. But either way…
Consider a stop at “The Daily Dozen” and for some interesting (and surprisingly cheap) eats, hit up the Mee Sum Pastry and grab a couple verities of Hom Bow (I like the curry ones)


I will probably be going in the opposite direction. The current plan is to be heading to Mt. Rainier after visiting Glacier National Park. I was thinking of staying in Packwood the night before in order to get an early start into the park the following day. But the downside is that I may not make it to the north side of the park.
That will work.
When we get there, we’ll likely skip the north side as well.
Other that the gondola, there’s far more on the south side.





When you’ve finally ditched the kids and get some long-awaited alone time with your significant other, what’s the first thing you do?
Sleep…


Well, you fly somewhere, rent a car, and then drive…
That’s more like the second thing. Orrrrrr… maybe the third…
(and assumes I have the cash to make it possible)


5 hours into the wilderness, of course.
OK, maybe not to the wilderness, but it depends…


You wake up early and set off for some long hikes in the middle of nowhere.
Or long hikes to the middle of the World Showcase


Julie and I grabbed breakfast at the hotel and then set off around 7:15 a.m. It helped to still be somewhat on East Coast time.
That is useful out that way for us as well
Shifting back on the way home, however…

(oh, and we did that this last time by taking a red-eye that included two cranky infants for no extra charge and arrived back at home around 7:00am… might not want to copy that strategy)


Capitol Reef gets its title from a large formation of red rock—a wall that has been formed as a “fold”, or wrinkle in the earth’s crust. This fold happens to extend for 87 miles deep in the heart of Utah. Settlers gave it the name “Capitol Reef”—the wall of rock acts as a reef, or barrier, and a formation on the southern end resembled the Capitol Building in Washington D.C. Geologists refer to the formation as the “Waterpocket Fold”—the fold referring to the wrinkle in the earth’s crust and Waterpocket referring to small sinks and depressions in the surface of the rock that collect water whenever it rains. All of this basically serves to give two completely different names to the same geological formation.
And not one of my “geography” teachers came anywhere near explaining that type of land feature back in the day.


Hmm. That’s a little hard to see. Let’s get a bit closer.


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That’s better…
The first image was like trying to find Waldo.
(amongst some right pretty landscape to be sure, but still…)


Then we’ll put some ugly guy in the photo for scale.
No, that’s all right…
Really, you don’t have to go to all that trouble…
I mean, it’s not absolutely neces…

…sary


You know what would be better? A hot model.

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And you should’a done that in the first place.


The trail kind of disappeared once we made our way there, so we ended up making our way through it Indiana Jones-style.
So…
Making it up as you go, then?

Or by being chased by something that’s trying to kill you.

Julie only tried to push me off the edge once or twice
So it was the second option then.


…so she was on her best behavior.
You do realize that every day you are allowed to continue breathing is proof that she’s on her best behavior, right?


The view on the other side was nice.
Nice?
That’s all, just… Nice?


On the way back to the car, we found this sign on the trail that I’d somehow failed to notice on the climb up. It is a little suspicious that Julie didn’t mention it to me when I paused along the way.


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Two words… plausible deniability.


Hiking here is not recommended during storms…
Well then where should one hike during storms?


Luckily for us, it was bright and sunny that day.
Thus, the reason she didn’t mention the sigh on the previous stop.


This trail is nice and easy—basically flat.
Good…
A spot for us hiking impaired types.


Rental companies tend to look down on people abandoning their property.
Good thing they aren’t near so picky about the mileage applied to their property.
Then you really would have issues.


Then we got back in the car and turned to the south along the park’s scenic drive—which lived up to its name.


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And then some…


I mean, as far as I know. I’ve never been to Egypt.
You’ve never traveled with Indiana Jones either, but we believed your assessment there.

So, who's more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?


Julie thought these formations looked like fossilized pasta.
Naaaaa…
Everyone knows that pasta grows on trees.


a third and final hike to Sunset Point.

Naturally, we visited right around noon.
Once the land gets sold off and someone puts up a show building to surround that spot, then time of day won’t matter anymore.


I tried to get Julie to help me pull off one of my patented Dad Joke photos,
So there was a cannon sitting out there?


but she didn’t want anything to do with it, citing such irrational fears as the “700-ft. plunge to my death”. What a spoil-sport.
Odd…
I would have thought that would have been seen as a positive.


Now you just need to get a shot of yourself holding up the Tower of Pisa.


We stopped at Slacker’s Burger Joint in Torrey for lunch, and enjoyed it for the simple reason that it didn’t serve peanut-butter-and-jelly sandwiches.
Every place needs a gimmick.


As a bonus, they gave us helpful instructions on using the toilet.
Because, there are still folk that need to have these things s’plained to them.


Rt. 12 turned out to be one of the more beautiful drives we’ve ever taken.
Duly noted…


I think it’s safe to say that the views don’t really get old here.
Your first understatement of this TR
 
Giggle uncontrollably? Jump up and down on the furniture? Fain in amazement?

We don't have the energy for any of those things.

Or that. That works too.

At least the car is doing the work.

No. You're parents. You've lost the ability to sleep in. That's how it works.

This is so true. It's not even funny.

That alone is... pretty incredible.

It's one of our favorite states, for sure.

Holy smokes! That's.... huge!

::yes::

Also cool. Basically a "we were here" sign. I like it.

Or like Alison said, maybe it's their Constitution.

:laughing

Okay. Serious, if somewhat unreal question.

Aliens land on the planet. They say they have the technology to bring forward one person from the past, but they get to pick what that person will do. You may agree or veto the project. They say they are bringing forward DaVinci. But he's going to paint over those petroglyphs.

Do you allow it?

How could you? How could you not?

Catch-22, there. I'd probably allow it. There are petroglyphs in other places. And DaVinci's drawings will probably be better. But then I'd get arrested, since it's illegal.

Dang that's pretty.

We said that a lot.

So... do you guys just power up those climbs? Or do you take them slow? Or fast with breaks? Or?

Depends on how long it is. This was about a 1/4 mile of switchbacks, so we just powered through it. Took a break at the top for water.

Like this????


No, more machete-style. The mine train was for Disney, a couple of weeks later.

Sure. You go on thinking that.
Julie: "I could just push him off the edge... wait... if I twist my ankle or get bit by a rattle snake, I'll need him to carry me back to the car. I'll let him live."

Thank goodness for pragmatism.

:laughing:
Good thing you didn't stop to take photos or anything.

:rotfl2: Yeah, that would be a dumb idea.

eep! I'd hate to get caught by a sudden freak thunderstorm.

Always check the weather forecasts! Because they never mess those up.

That's a pretty cool shot. :)

Thanks! Hard to point the camera anywhere and not find something pretty.

Meh. Next time pay the $25 insurance fee and ditch it.

But that's a long walk back to Vegas.

I've never been either, so.... yes! Exactly like that!

I KNEW it!

Just... jaw dropping.
You must have been driving (or hiking) along and constantly oohing and ahhing.

Wow, it's like you were right there with us!

What kind of fruit are they?

They had a few different kinds growing there. Cherries, apricots, peaches, pears and apples.

:lmao:

So Julie wasn't so worried about her ankle after all.

"Wait, that's not quite it...step back a little."

Hmmm... no review, so... food was merely adequate?

Yeah, adequate would cover it. Certainly not the best burger ever. But it worked.

I could have quoted pretty much every photo... wow! You certainly saw some stunning views that day!

Agreed! It was a beautiful park. So was the drive.

I've had fun catching up on your report. Practically in tears reading about your original then repeat trip to the Flamingo. One question - what did your family members from the original trip think about you planning a return trip? :rotfl2:

They made fun of me, of course, and chastised me for not going in November like we did the first time. Of course, I seem to remember that going in November didn't really help.

Funny....I was thinking that as I was looking at the pic.

If it lasts long enough, it's art!
 
So, what you're saying is the policy is correctly sized for the value of the object being insured? :lmao:

She gets $4.98. So, yes.

This is true. You could be photoshopping all of those pictures and replacing them with ugly photobombing dude or exploding helicopters. ;)

But exploding helicopters make every story better!

Once again beautiful pictures. This may be more of a question for Julie but um, I don't see many restroom facilities in the middle of nowhere :o sooooo what is a mom to do after drinking the tons of water they keep telling you to drink when you are out there hiking miles and miles in 100 degree blaring sun?? Yes, these are the things I think about when planning a potential vacation. :upsidedow

Well, the trail heads typically have pit toilets available. It's not pretty, but they're available. Otherwise, you just have to act like a guy: the world is your toilet.

Or hold it till you get to the visitor center, which is what Julie did.
 
That might be an issue. Especially for the young’ens.
We’d had a couple days to adjust (somewhat), but it was a rather late night adventure

We tried for the night sky again at Bryce, and wound up running into this issue.

The time available to get out, roam around and see a few things is a definite plus.

::yes::

And I figured that’d be true as well.
Good thing, they didn’t make the same structural mistakes on either of the current bridges.

That's the kind of mistake you only make once.

Museum of Flight is located at “Boeing Field” which is off I-5 north of SeaTac and basically in Seattle proper. If you can only do one that’s the one I’d recommend given your limited time constraints. Especially as the traveling Apollo-11 mission artifacts exhibit will be there in the summer of 2019 (including Columbia). And y’all will be in the area just after the 50th anniversary of the landing.

The Boeing Factory is farther north at Paine Field near Everett.
That is also where Paul Allen’s collection is.

Got it. Thanks for the clarification!

Good list…

A few thoughts
Stadium tour shouldn’t be too hard and it’s near the NPS Klondike site as well. Also see if the Mariners are in town as tickets for their outfield bleachers are relatively cheap (I was there during the All-Star break so I didn’t have that option)

I always seem to travel when the home team is out of town.

The Needle should be finished with the current renovations by next summer so that is a good thing.
It is iconic, but it’s not cheap. A somewhat less expensive way of getting that kind of view (including looking down on the Needle) would be from the Sky View Observatory at the Columbia Center building. That said… the experience of being at the 62 World’s Fair icon may be more important.

Good to know! But there is something about saying you were actually in the Needle.

If you are going to “Seattle Center” to see the Needle, and you’re looking for cheap eats, there is a “Dick’s Drive In” a couple blocks from Seattle Center on Queen Anne Ave. Better yet, there is a Monorail that runs between there and the Westlake Center which is an easy walk to (or from) the Market (where “easy” means that the hills are nowhere near as steep there vs a few blocks south of there).

Also good to know! I knew about the monorail, too. So it sounds like we would find parking somewhere, and then use the monorail to go between Pike Place and the Space Needle?

Speaking of the Market, I can email you a handy spreadsheet & map that locates all the purveyors of grub by type and location if you’re interested. But either way…
Consider a stop at “The Daily Dozen” and for some interesting (and surprisingly cheap) eats, hit up the Mee Sum Pastry and grab a couple verities of Hom Bow (I like the curry ones)

Yes, please do! Anything to help with the research. And thanks!

Although I doubt we'll be going out of our way for curry dishes.

That will work.
When we get there, we’ll likely skip the north side as well.
Other that the gondola, there’s far more on the south side.

That's how it looked to me as well.

That’s more like the second thing. Orrrrrr… maybe the third…
(and assumes I have the cash to make it possible)

What is this "sleep" thing you refer to?

Or long hikes to the middle of the World Showcase

That works.

That is useful out that way for us as well
Shifting back on the way home, however…

(oh, and we did that this last time by taking a red-eye that included two cranky infants for no extra charge and arrived back at home around 7:00am… might not want to copy that strategy)

I've always thought flying east is much harder than flying west.

And not one of my “geography” teachers came anywhere near explaining that type of land feature back in the day.

You need to take Julie's class!

That’s better…
The first image was like trying to find Waldo.
(amongst some right pretty landscape to be sure, but still…)

I figured it needed some clarification.

No, that’s all right…
Really, you don’t have to go to all that trouble…
I mean, it’s not absolutely neces…


:rotfl2::rotfl2:

And you should’a done that in the first place.

I saved the best for last.

So…
Making it up as you go, then?

Or by being chased by something that’s trying to kill you.

It's not the years. It's the mileage.

So it was the second option then.

Pretty much.

You do realize that every day you are allowed to continue breathing is proof that she’s on her best behavior, right?

That, and the laws of our society.

Nice?
That’s all, just… Nice?

Gorgeous vista fatigue?

Two words… plausible deniability.

Sounds like I need to hike with a bullet-proof vest.

Well then where should one hike during storms?

In your basement.

Thus, the reason she didn’t mention the sigh on the previous stop.

We knew there had to be some reason.

Good…
A spot for us hiking impaired types.

You just have to handle the heat, is all.

Good thing they aren’t near so picky about the mileage applied to their property.
Then you really would have issues.

That would single-handedly ruin our vacations.

You’ve never traveled with Indiana Jones either, but we believed your assessment there.

So, who's more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?

Uh oh, now we're mixing our Harrison Ford movies. That's not how the Force works!

Naaaaa…
Everyone knows that pasta grows on trees.

I want a spaghetti tree!

Once the land gets sold off and someone puts up a show building to surround that spot, then time of day won’t matter anymore.

Oh, come on. Like we would ever appoint people who would start selling off Federally protec--

Um. Moving on.

So there was a cannon sitting out there?

If there was, there would be a photo.

Odd…
I would have thought that would have been seen as a positive.

I think it was her own possible fall she was worried about.

Now you just need to get a shot of yourself holding up the Tower of Pisa.

Too cliche. :rolleyes1

Because, there are still folk that need to have these things s’plained to them.

They certainly could use a refresher on how to flush.
 
We don't have the energy for any of those things.

Oops... parents. Right. Sorry.

This is so true. It's not even funny.

Oh, believe me. I wasn't kidding.

Or like Alison said, maybe it's their Constitution.

Or a recipe for chicken soup.

Catch-22, there. I'd probably allow it. There are petroglyphs in other places. And DaVinci's drawings will probably be better. But then I'd get arrested, since it's illegal.

Nah. Just blame it on aliens. You wouldn't be the first to use that as your defense.

We said that a lot.

I bet!

No, more machete-style. The mine train was for Disney, a couple of weeks later.

Ah. Of course.

Always check the weather forecasts! Because they never mess those up.

They're actually really accurate. Well, not at forecasting. But aftercasting? Spot on.

But that's a long walk back to Vegas.

That's why the 2nd car is in that parking lot.

They had a few different kinds growing there. Cherries, apricots, peaches, pears and apples.

Pretty good variety there. Thought it would be just one type of fruit.

"Wait, that's not quite it...step back a little."

::yes::
 
The coolest part of the trail involves a section called “The Narrows”, where the walls get pretty tight on either side of the path as it twists through the rock.

Is this similar to "The Narrows" in Zion? I really wanted to hike that trail when we were there years ago - just no time. I think Utah is so beautiful - would love to go back and hike a few more trails.

They made fun of me, of course, and chastised me for not going in November like we did the first time. Of course, I seem to remember that going in November didn't really help.

were they of the belief that November would yield fewer monsters? If so, I could see that. I never had a mosquito bite until enjoying dinner outside in Miami...in July....where I was eaten alive and it took me awhile to figure out what all the welts were...where my skin was exposed. :idea: I had a good amount of time in Miami from late November - May without any issue.....and have not been bit again since.
 
Oops... parents. Right. Sorry.

I don't even remember what day it is.

Oh, believe me. I wasn't kidding.

I know. I believe you.

Or a recipe for chicken soup.

So that's why they drew the chicken. It all makes sense now! You're like a Rosetta stone.

Nah. Just blame it on aliens. You wouldn't be the first to use that as your defense.

Yes, but how often does it work?

They're actually really accurate. Well, not at forecasting. But aftercasting? Spot on.

That's just like my office! We are AMAZING Monday-Morning Quarterbacks. The best.

That's why the 2nd car is in that parking lot.

Right, the 2nd car. Wait, what?

Pretty good variety there. Thought it would be just one type of fruit.

I'm pretty sure the thinking was that as a frontier outpost, their only hope for long-term survival was to be able to have pie all year long.

Is this similar to "The Narrows" in Zion? I really wanted to hike that trail when we were there years ago - just no time. I think Utah is so beautiful - would love to go back and hike a few more trails.

Yes, it's similar. That was the reason we wanted to hike it, since we'd also missed out on Zion's Narrows. I think this piece is shorter--it was just a couple of turns and then it widened out again. And you don't have to hike through an ice-cold river to see it. Let's call it the Poor Man's Narrows.

were they of the belief that November would yield fewer monsters? If so, I could see that. I never had a mosquito bite until enjoying dinner outside in Miami...in July....where I was eaten alive and it took me awhile to figure out what all the welts were...where my skin was exposed. :idea: I had a good amount of time in Miami from late November - May without any issue.....and have not been bit again since.

Yes, and I think they would generally be correct. November would be nearly "winter" in Florida and the mosquito population should generally die down. But we visited that year during a warm fall, so it hadn't had any effect at the time.
 
I don't even remember what day it is.

Oh, that's easy. It's the one that ends with a "Y". It's also the day after yesterday and the day before tomorrow.

So that's why they drew the chicken. It all makes sense now! You're like a Rosetta stone.

I am in great demand at most major universities.

Yes, but how often does it work?

Don't ask questions you don't want answers to.

That's just like my office! We are AMAZING Monday-Morning Quarterbacks. The best.

Wow!!!! You guys are incredible!

I'm pretty sure the thinking was that as a frontier outpost, their only hope for long-term survival was to be able to have pie all year long.

:lmao: :rotfl:
 
Catching up after my trip! Absolutely beautiful pictures. What an incredible part of the country. I don't know that I will ever get that far southwest, but it would be worth it for those views.
 

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