What have we gotten ourselves into :(

[Gitts2008]

Ooh, boy… it does sound like you’ve gotten yourself into the middle of a difficult family dynamic. That’s for sure.

I agree with most that, from the details provided, it sounds like the girl has a toxic family and needs to get away as quickly as possible. And that the military might be a great fit to give her the life skills she needs, especially if that's what she want to do.

HOWEVER, I also urge you to look at her story carefully and objectively and make sure it holds water. I definitely don't want to call her a liar (because maybe everything is happening how she says it is). However, I am also a parent of internationally-adopted children (also from Russia). One of whom is now 18. I also belong to a number of parent groups for parents of internationally adopted children. Not all of the kids are transitioning well to adulthood. Some are very immature for their chronological age and will lie, cheat, manipulate and use people (and are very adept at it). There are psychological reasons that it's more common in children who spent time in orphanages/foster care as young children, apparently mainly stemming from lack of attachment to a primary caregiver as an infant. There were a few things about your story that rang some alarm bells (I've heard similar some similar stories from the opposite perspective. "She told her friend's mom that we were horrible and did X, Y, an Z...she even showed them texts that she said were from me," etc.), so just be careful. I suppose as a legal adult, she has the right to choose her own path. I'd just hate to see you "help" her get herself into a worse situation than she's already in.

Also, on the practical side. She may or may not be a citizen. The citizenship rules changed right around the time my son was adopted (2001). Based on her age, and the fact that she didn’t remember her adoption, I’d guess she was adopted around the same time as, or maybe even a little earlier than, than my son. Children adopted after the law change automatically became citizens when they got to the USA (although they didn’t receive any proof of citizenship unless we applied for it.) Children adopted before the law change did not receive automatic citizenship. They could be naturalized, but their parents had to specifically request it prior to the child turning 18. If she's already 18 and it has not been requested, then that avenue to citizenship has closed. If she knows she has a US Passport or a Certificate of Citizenship, then she’s a citizen (and yes, she’ll want that documentation) but her social security card/birth certificate is not proof of citizenship. She’ll definitely want to understand her citizenship status as she starts out on her own.

Edited to add: If she does end up needing to get her original documents, this might be a good way to start. When she was adopted and came to the USA, her parents had to turn over a packet at Immigration when she came into the country. The packet included an original copy of her Russian birth certificate, an original adoption decree, etc. She can petition to get that packet returned to her. Then she'd have copies of everything from the Russian side.: https://www.uscis.gov/g-884?fbclid=IwAR0clq4EuQh_OcQvr5dws7LpzUxTbpl8mHBVMsyfCW9JuX2zK_9iXdBQRn0

Yes, we did get ourselves into a situation!

I do appreciate the caution that you are advising. And, I agree that despite her physical age of 19 (She will be 20 in January) that her emotional age is closer to 15/16. We were aware that her family was strict. We just did not realize that physical abuse took place and you are right....I should take things with a grain of salt.

Thank you so much for the USCIS link. She does remember having a US passport. I think we need to empower her to make a life for herself instead of us worrying how we are going to make a life for her.

 

[EMom]

Also, on the practical side. She may or may not be a citizen. The citizenship rules changed right around the time my son was adopted (2001). Based on her age, and the fact that she didn’t remember her adoption, I’d guess she was adopted around the same time as, or maybe even a little earlier than, than my son. Children adopted after the law change automatically became citizens when they got to the USA (although they didn’t receive any proof of citizenship unless we applied for it.) Children adopted before the law change did not receive automatic citizenship. They could be naturalized, but their parents had to specifically request it prior to the child turning 18. If she's already 18 and it has not been requested, then that avenue to citizenship has closed. If she knows she has a US Passport or a Certificate of Citizenship, then she’s a citizen (and yes, she’ll want that documentation) but her social security card/birth certificate is not proof of citizenship. She’ll definitely want to understand her citizenship status as she starts out on her own.

Edited to add: If she does end up needing to get her original documents, this might be a good way to start. When she was adopted and came to the USA, her parents had to turn over a packet at Immigration when she came into the country. The packet included an original copy of her Russian birth certificate, an original adoption decree, etc. She can petition to get that packet returned to her. Then she'd have copies of everything from the Russian side.: https://www.uscis.gov/g-884?fbclid=IwAR0clq4EuQh_OcQvr5dws7LpzUxTbpl8mHBVMsyfCW9JuX2zK_9iXdBQRn0

After 2001 (February, I believe) adopted children brought into the US on a certain visa ...I can never remember if it’s IR3 or 4, but the one where adoption is complete and final in the country of origin ... automatically became US citizens upon entry to the US. Children who had been adopted prior to that date and came in on the same visa ALSO became automatic citizens. My daughter came here just before the law went into effect, is also 19, and she became an automatic US citizen because of the law. There was an age limit, but this child would have been young enough. And coming from Russia, she came in on the right visa to qualify. There is no paperwork to prove it because you met the conditions or you didnt. If she has a passport, that will simplify proving her citizenship.

 

[Gitts2008]

How is a 19 year old that sheltered if she works 2 jobs?

She is/was sheltered by the fact that both jobs were given to her because of her family ties. She never handled her paycheck. She was not aware of an ATM card is used for. She does not know how to do her laundry. I am still learning what she is capable of doing on her own and what she needs assistance with doing.

 

[dotfurio]

Is there an LGBT center in your area? I know ours helps kids in her situation (abandoned by their family for being gay). They might be able to help her, provide some emotional support, and connect her to people who can help her sort through all the things she needs to do, like her legal documents.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Ooh, boy… it does sound like you’ve gotten yourself into the middle of a difficult family dynamic. That’s for sure.

I agree with most that, from the details provided, it sounds like the girl has a toxic family and needs to get away as quickly as possible. And that the military might be a great fit to give her the life skills she needs, especially if that's what she want to do.

HOWEVER, I also urge you to look at her story carefully and objectively and make sure it holds water. I definitely don't want to call her a liar (because maybe everything is happening how she says it is). However, I am also a parent of internationally-adopted children (also from Russia). One of whom is now 18. I also belong to a number of parent groups for parents of internationally adopted children. Not all of the kids are transitioning well to adulthood. Some are very immature for their chronological age and will lie, cheat, manipulate and use people (and are very adept at it). There are psychological reasons that it's more common in children who spent time in orphanages/foster care as young children, apparently mainly stemming from lack of attachment to a primary caregiver as an infant. There were a few things about your story that rang some alarm bells (I've heard similar some similar stories from the opposite perspective. "She told her friend's mom that we were horrible and did X, Y, an Z...she even showed them texts that she said were from me," etc.), so just be careful. I suppose as a legal adult, she has the right to choose her own path. I'd just hate to see you "help" her get herself into a worse situation than she's already in.

Also, on the practical side. She may or may not be a citizen. The citizenship rules changed right around the time my son was adopted (2001). Based on her age, and the fact that she didn’t remember her adoption, I’d guess she was adopted around the same time as, or maybe even a little earlier than, than my son. Children adopted after the law change automatically became citizens when they got to the USA (although they didn’t receive any proof of citizenship unless we applied for it.) Children adopted before the law change did not receive automatic citizenship. They could be naturalized, but their parents had to specifically request it prior to the child turning 18. If she's already 18 and it has not been requested, then that avenue to citizenship has closed. If she knows she has a US Passport or a Certificate of Citizenship, then she’s a citizen (and yes, she’ll want that documentation) but her social security card/birth certificate is not proof of citizenship. She’ll definitely want to understand her citizenship status as she starts out on her own.

Edited to add: If she does end up needing to get her original documents, this might be a good way to start. When she was adopted and came to the USA, her parents had to turn over a packet at Immigration when she came into the country. The packet included an original copy of her Russian birth certificate, an original adoption decree, etc. She can petition to get that packet returned to her. Then she'd have copies of everything from the Russian side.: https://www.uscis.gov/g-884?fbclid=IwAR0clq4EuQh_OcQvr5dws7LpzUxTbpl8mHBVMsyfCW9JuX2zK_9iXdBQRn0

Yes, we did get ourselves into a situation!

I do appreciate the caution that you are advising. And, I agree that despite her physical age of 19 (She will be 20 in January) that her emotional age is closer to 15/16. We were aware that her family was strict. We just did not realize that physical abuse took place and you are right....I should take things with a grain of salt.

Thank you so much for the USCIS link. She does remember having a US passport. I think we need to empower her to make a life for herself instead of us worrying how we are going to make a life for her.

Just echoing what design_mom has said.

It might help to familiarize yourself with Reactive Attachment Disorders
https://www.helpguide.org/articles/...-issues-and-reactive-attachment-disorders.htm

You can find some articles about the young adult/adult with RAD, as well.

Good luck. It is not an easy thing to deal with.

 

[Colleen27]

Personally, I would advise seeking a police escort to retrieve her things if only to get her essential paperwork. Replacing that can be a major PITA even for a citizen (we've done it for one of our "bonus" kids whose abusive parent claimed it was "lost" to keep her under his thumb) and if friend's relatives decide to retaliate by interfering with her jobs, she'll need the SS card to secure a new one.

Other than that, all you can do is teach the life skills and try to help her reach an age-appropriate skill level. It might be worth looking for LGBT rights or support organizations. Being kicked out for sexual orientation is a pretty common scenario and they might have connections to resources that traditional social services agencies wouldn't to help with a situation where the individual seeking help isn't homeless or hungry.

 

[china mom]

A police escort to retrieve belongings usually only covers a few days worth of clothes, medications, and other immediate essentials. Anything in dispute remains at the home. For exapmle, if she wants to take the dog (and if the officers are willing), as soon as the parents say no, the dog stays.

What she needs to do for the rest of her stuff is to file a replevin action with the courts.

It's likely she doesn't have enough stuff to make that worth it since almost everything she owns probably came from her parents so how does she prove it's hers

 

[QueenIsabella]

A police escort to retrieve belongings usually only covers a few days worth of clothes, medications, and other immediate essentials. Anything in dispute remains at the home. For exapmle, if she wants to take the dog (and if the officers are willing), as soon as the parents say no, the dog stays.

What she needs to do for the rest of her stuff is to file a replevin action with the courts.

It's likely she doesn't have enough stuff to make that worth it since almost everything she owns probably came from her parents so how does she prove it's hers

She is most certainly entitled to her birth certificate, SS card, and passport. I agree with you on personal belongings and the dog. But the police could help her retrieve her important documents

 

[Hrhpd]

never mind, I should read to the end before posting. Already covered.

I would add that just in case her story is true, she should run a credit check through Experian, Credit Karma, or similar to make sure Mommy has not stolen her identity and has credit cards out there in her name. If Mommy is controlling her paychecks, deposits, and everything financial, she wouldn't even know if credit cards were being paid or not paid in her name.

 

[focusondisney]

Since her mother controlled her pay, I’d also try & find out if there a bank account somewhere with her money in it. Make sure she gets it, not her mother.

 

[china mom]

She is most certainly entitled to her birth certificate, SS card, and passport. I agree with you on personal belongings and the dog. But the police could help her retrieve her important documents

Agreed IF the documents are easily accessed. If the parents have them squirreled away, it becomes a civil matter. Officers cannot assist in a search in this case and won't wait around for her to search.

I'm just trying to keep expectations realistic.

 

[mousefan73]

I fear that we are in over our heads with this situation and I want to do what it right. I am looking for some advice or guidance. Last Friday, my daughter’s friend ran away from home/got kicked out/left home. Background information: Friend is 19 years old, lives a few houses away from us, works about 30 hours a week, and wants to join the military. We have known the family for 12 years. She comes from a strict family with a mom who I view to be a bit controlling. I will do my best to make this short and easy to understand. I will use “friend” as the person who ran away to my house.

So last Friday “friend” knocks on our door because “left” her house and needs a place to stay, because her mom found out that she has a twitter account. Friend is not allowed to have social media accounts. Also, mom read the twitter posts and found out that friend is gay. Mom proceeded to yell at friend and said some VERY inappropriate things that I view to be verbal and emotional abuse. Friends’ family is very religious. We are not religious. I reassure friend that she is safe here. I have her try to calm down, so that she can go to work. Friend tells me that she wrote a 2-page letter apologizing to her family for being this way and for being a disappointment and that, she is leaving. Friend states that her father will “put her through a wall” and I ask for clarification. It appears that friend is not using metaphors, that the father will literally physically hurt her. I take friend to her work. She calls me an hour later that her mom and grandma showed up at work and started to cause a scene. Security is called. Grandma tells friend to come home or she will kill friend’s dogs. Customer hears mom say, “I am going to kill friend for being a XXXXXXXXXX.” It is decided that friend will leave work early and go with my daughter to another friend’s home.

My daughter works 2 jobs, is an athlete and does high school. During this past week, I have been the primary care giver of friend. And, I am terrified of what I have come to find out. Friend’s mom handled all of the finances for friend. Friend did not know the amount of her paychecks, (Mom lied and told her that her checks were $100-$200 less), how to use a bank for deposits and withdrawals, use an ATM, use the washer and dryer, prepare more than a simple meal and pay bills…..Please understand that our daughter does her own laundry, will make food if she is hungry, uses a cell phone. I feel that our daughter does age appropriate tasks. Friend has been sheltered/forbidden to mature or learn age appropriate life skills???

On Thanksgiving, friend reached out to her family by text and it turned into a (my opinion here) a manipulative abusive texting rant from her mother. “You betrayed us, lied to us, I thought that you were my friend, you are making a fool of yourself, I gave away ALL of your dresses, you are embarrassing yourself, people die and I do not want you to in the military, if you join the military I will never see you..” Friend’s father said, “Do not contact me without your mother knowing.” From what friend had me read and it was difficult to read such hurtful and hateful statements, I can only wonder what is wrong with this woman that she would not see or hear or know that she is being a 100% wack-a-doodle. Yesterday, friend’s mom writes her a bunch of texts, which contain information that could only have come from friend’s brother’s telling the mom stuff. And, it was like a bad game of telephone…misinformation all around. Friend is going to church on Sunday to do her job of setting up for Mass and she will see her family there. Friend says that she cannot tell the priest that she is gay because it is a sin and she will lose her job at the church.

So, what have we gotten ourselves into!!! We will help friend as best as we can. But, I do not know how to help her. People in my life say that she should go to the police and file an abuse report. Have the police escort her to her house to get her belongings. On Monday, I plan to locate a therapist for friend to talk to about what is happening. Also, friend was not born in the USA. Friend only found out 2 years ago that she is adopted. Friend needs to get her birth certificate, so that she can get her social security card, a replacement passport (or the passport that the family has), so that she can take a test to join the military. Any advice or wisdom would be greatly appreciated. I have tried to not give my opinion, but WOW this is a hot mess.

This is a hot mess. My personally I would try not to get too involved. Do what you can now for the immediate danger thing. This friend is an adult. I would get police involved and honesty get in touch with a LGBT help group. Kinda like shelters for abused women, sure they have the same. This is not the first time a gay person has been abused / kicked out by family.

 

[mousefan73]

OT but threads like this make me hug my kids and thank God they were lucky to be born/ raised by/to us. Life is a lottery isn’t it.

 

[pweyl36]

The main thing that strikes me here is that you are not dealing with a run-away/thrown-away child who needs a "primary care-giver", you're dealing with a young ADULT. Due to her circumstances it's clearly time for her to move into independence, although this is a rather abrupt introduction to it and from what you say she has been unfortunately ill-equipped. Many, many people have difficult family backgrounds and this "friend" is very lucky to have you and other trusted people in her life. If you are willing to abide with her and mentor her through the roughest early days of this transition I would recommend the following:

• Move forward with finding her some professional support, but it might not be mental-health care she needs. Maybe something like crisis-counselling would be more appropriate - are there any youth-services in your area? They would perhaps be a good clearing-house for resources.
• Encourage friend to temporarily suspend all contact with her parents until this situation cools off a little. Emotions are understandably out of control right now and continuing to engage with them will only hurt her more. I would go so far as to suggest she possibly change her cell number. If they continue to disrupt her workplace I would likely encourage her to make a police report.
• I would not escalate to having a police escort take her back to her house just yet. If there is some way that she could enter the house when the parents aren't home to quickly gather her things, that would be best.
• Immediately help her take control of her finances - this may include opening new bank accounts and having her pay redirected.
• Do the leg-work for her (or give her detailed instructions) on getting the birth-certificate/social security issue ironed out asap.

Wherever possible begin teaching her the normal life-skills any of us need to function and reinforce that she is an adult and is entitled and able to make her own choices and move forward with her life, difficult as it is. Continuously reassure her that you are confident in her abilities to rise above this and shine; this is a beginning for her not an ending. I wish you all well.

I disagree with not calling for a police escort, because they could say she robbed them.

 

[wgeo]

Just wanted to say thanks for getting and staying involved OP. A lot of people wouldn't help out because it was too tough or too much drama, but the help that you are providing is invaluable to this "friend". I understand the extra stress it can put on your life, so please do remember to take care of yourself during this time as well.

As far as specific advice, know that it will be one step forward two steps back at times, especially in regard to how the friend interacts with their family. And be aware, that in the end no matter what relationship friend ends up having or not having with the family - to the rest of the family you are now the bad guy which can put you in awkward situations in the future.

For the friend, there is almost too much to learn right now. So personally i'd recommend taking it a step at a time and concentrate on a few things until the friend gains confidence and then move on to a few new things. Otherwise things can just stay to overwhelming for awhile.

 

[Toulouse]

Thank you all! I do and did need some reassurance that we are on the right path. I did help her set up a bank account and explained how to utilize the bank. I really do not want the police involved but it may come to that if her family will not leave her alone. DH helped her get a cell phone. I had no idea that I would be essentially teaching a "child" how to be an adult...again. Yes, she is 19 years old. But, she has never been independent in the smallest way possible. I think that we are up for the task...I hope so. We just did not realize the magnitude of the situation. Without us, she is without a positive supportive environment. Unfortunately, she falls in the cracks of crisis assistance. She has a place to stay, she has food, she has money and with the holiday someone will contact me later. That is why I will contact a private therapist or counseling center on Monday. Thank you again! Getting it out has made me feel a bit more hopeful on the situation.

Just know that you are an amazing person for helping her out.

 

[DopeyDame]

I'll just echo what a few others said in that the adoption does complicate paperwork.

Ideally, she should retrieve from her parents her:
US Passport
US Certificate of Citizenship (if she received one)
Russian Adoption Decree
US Adoption or Readoption Decree (assuming she has one, she may not depending on the state)
US Certificate of Foreign Birth (no reason to go through any effort to get the Russian birth cert unless she wants it for sentiment's sake)
US SSN card

I also echo what a few posters said about being cautious in how much of her story to believe. I'm not at all suggesting that she's absolutely lying, but there are some real red flags there in her story.

 

[NotUrsula]

I would attempt to check out her parish to find out if the parish is mainstream or Traditionalist (the easiest clue to find this out is to see if they tout using the Extraordinary Form of the Mass; the Latin form. I kind of doubt it if this girl is an altar Server, because Traditionalists tend not to allow girls to take that duty.) Traditionalists do not accept LGBT Catholics, but mainstream Catholics do. (There are some caveats to their philosophy about it, which I won't go into here. Still, if this young lady is very religious, losing the support of her church family in addition to her nuclear family would be a terrible blow, and one that would be best avoided if it is possible to do so without dishonesty.)

If the parish is mainstream, it is very possible that the priest could help her to negotiate with her parents and go with her to retrieve her personal documents. When dealing with extremely religious people who are being unreasonable, I have always found that their pastor is usually the one person who can reliably get them to back down -- assuming that the pastor disagrees with their POV. As long as the parish is mainstream, having her go to her priest for guidance would be a reasonable step.

 

[wenrob]

Ooh, boy… it does sound like you’ve gotten yourself into the middle of a difficult family dynamic. That’s for sure.

I agree with most that, from the details provided, it sounds like the girl has a toxic family and needs to get away as quickly as possible. And that the military might be a great fit to give her the life skills she needs, especially if that's what she want to do.

HOWEVER, I also urge you to look at her story carefully and objectively and make sure it holds water. I definitely don't want to call her a liar (because maybe everything is happening how she says it is). However, I am also a parent of internationally-adopted children (also from Russia). One of whom is now 18. I also belong to a number of parent groups for parents of internationally adopted children. Not all of the kids are transitioning well to adulthood. Some are very immature for their chronological age and will lie, cheat, manipulate and use people (and are very adept at it). There are psychological reasons that it's more common in children who spent time in orphanages/foster care as young children, apparently mainly stemming from lack of attachment to a primary caregiver as an infant. There were a few things about your story that rang some alarm bells (I've heard similar some similar stories from the opposite perspective. "She told her friend's mom that we were horrible and did X, Y, an Z...she even showed them texts that she said were from me," etc.), so just be careful. I suppose as a legal adult, she has the right to choose her own path. I'd just hate to see you "help" her get herself into a worse situation than she's already in.

Also, on the practical side. She may or may not be a citizen. The citizenship rules changed right around the time my son was adopted (2001). Based on her age, and the fact that she didn’t remember her adoption, I’d guess she was adopted around the same time as, or maybe even a little earlier than, than my son. Children adopted after the law change automatically became citizens when they got to the USA (although they didn’t receive any proof of citizenship unless we applied for it.) Children adopted before the law change did not receive automatic citizenship. They could be naturalized, but their parents had to specifically request it prior to the child turning 18. If she's already 18 and it has not been requested, then that avenue to citizenship has closed. If she knows she has a US Passport or a Certificate of Citizenship, then she’s a citizen (and yes, she’ll want that documentation) but her social security card/birth certificate is not proof of citizenship. She’ll definitely want to understand her citizenship status as she starts out on her own.

Edited to add: If she does end up needing to get her original documents, this might be a good way to start. When she was adopted and came to the USA, her parents had to turn over a packet at Immigration when she came into the country. The packet included an original copy of her Russian birth certificate, an original adoption decree, etc. She can petition to get that packet returned to her. Then she'd have copies of everything from the Russian side.: https://www.uscis.gov/g-884?fbclid=IwAR0clq4EuQh_OcQvr5dws7LpzUxTbpl8mHBVMsyfCW9JuX2zK_9iXdBQRn0

100% agree with this post. I would tread lightly. In my experience as a teen who ran with the wrong kids as well as a near grown kid and adult who has had tons of teens pass through my life (siblings, cousins, mine, nieces, nephews etc.), I have seen the “my family is horrible/abusive/hates me” manipulation play out on several occasions over the years. Good kids from great families having the authorities and other families eating out of their hands. You say she hasn’t been taught anything so they can control her. (Paraphrasing) Is it that or is it because she’s been coddled her whole life? Is mom taking her money or is it she can’t be bothered to learn how to do it herself so she lets mom do it? You’re only hearing one side of this, I would use extreme caution in getting tangled up in it without cold, hard facts.

 

[Gitts2008]

UPDATE!!

I do believe that we are in over my head but we are trying to make the best of the situation. No movement on getting her belongings. I was finally able to locate a therapist. The local "free" resources are overburdened and she would be seen in March. Since she has housing, food, warmth, clothing and not ill she falls very low in the "needs" category.

I will do my best to address the questions that I have been asked. I have learned additional information and I can not even type or express the magnitude of toxicity that she has been exposed to in her life. I have had to FIRMLY explain that in our home/in his house/in our lives we do not and will not use any type of language that is offensive and that we will not tolerate discussion of those ideas. Words that I can not type and people should never say!!! I had to say the words so that she would know in no uncertain terms what they are....it started with her saying that someone is XXXpoor. After this, I started asking more questions and more abuses become apparent. I am horrified that we called those people friends and associated with them in the neighborhood. This is just one thing that I am dealing with as person who is shocked and disgusted. They may have kept her so close bc they are disgusting, narrow minded, racist, phobic people. I understand that some people may not view their "ideas' as abuse but I do. Teaching a child terrible beliefs is abuse!!! There is a great deal to undo here and she needs professionals to assist her with learning how to live in THIS world as who she is.

I do believe her parents withheld teaching her advanced daily living skills bc they are just pathetic and bc she has some type of processing issue. She has not grasped the concept of time management, yet. I do not think she lived in a mutually respected personal environment. The concept of individual and family responsibility appears new to her. I do trust that her view of her families life was a bit skewed and childish. My daughter understands that rules are boundaries and that we do not set limits bc we are controlling. This is not something that I feel she understands and her statements reflect more of a rebellious teen. Keep in mind she is 19 and will be 20 soon. She has some sense of what a family should be which is good.

I feel like I am teaching a pre-teen to teen how to be a grown up.

I do not know where this fits in but she did not know what a car sun visor was...the thing above the front seats that one uses when the sun is in your eyes. It just struck me as odd.

She is still not able to score above a 29 on her Navy test. 29 is not enough for her to enlist.

She knows how to do laundry. She still needs/wants me to make her meals and this is changing.

She got herself into financial trouble by signing a contact without reading it or knowing what it said...DH is in the process of getting her money back and canceling the LA fitness contact with personal training session.

Thank you all for giving me feedback! I am so thankful that I get to hear how to help her and to give me some reality.