Will DISNEY have to Guarantee admission

[a1tinkfans]

In over 30 years of Disney visits/stays I can only think of 2 occasions that (MK) was Unbearably crowded, but the park was not closed. We tried it the first time, we may have even been let in because we were on site guests, I vaguely recall that. It was wall to wall people, literally shuffling Their feet. Awful! I felt like I could not breathe. My family was escorted out, behind Main Street. I was so relieved and Very Very Thankful we were out of there.
the second time ( also over a July 4th visit) years back, we heard about MK being mobbed and never went to the park that stay. We enjoyed the resort and that was it. Needless to say, we’ve never gone back for Early July, lol.
Im just curious what 50 percent capacity at MK looks like.

 

[EarsGoWithEverything]

Going under the assumption that Disney wants to utilize social distancing practices (particularly in the parks) and keeping gate limited to 50% , I don't see how they cannot have some sort of guaranteed park admission for on-property guests. Otherwise, wouldn't everyone try to flood in at gate drop? (You would end up with more people clustered together on the buses, monorails, boats- and standing in mobs to get through security/park entrance. )

 

[parasail_of_congress]

Disney may refund your park tickets (even then the terms of service outline specific reasons where they would have to), but just because you bought them in a package with a Disney resort stay would not obligate them to refund the cost of your stay unless you cancelled your trip. All that Disney is obligated to provide you with a resort booking (whether as part of a package or not) is a hotel room in the room category you payed for. So long as they do that and you stay at the resort, they owe you nothing. Yes, there aren't many people who would stay at a Disney resort if there were no parks (especially at the inflated rates Disney charges compared to other resorts with similar room and service standards) but that doesn't change what Disney is obligated to provide or not.

I think it would be a problem if Disney did not allow people refunds on their trips knowing that the lower capacity could limit access, but if you choose to go and stay at the hotel knowing you might be unable to get into the parks, you would probably only be entitled to a refund of your tickets at best.

Absolutely. My assumption is that once the parks and resorts re-open, there will be new rules instituted for these types of situations. The point of my post that you quoted is that if a family purchased a vacation/ticket package months ago, Disney wouldn't just allow them to show up onsite and then say, "Sorry, the parks are at full capacity, you can't go to the park." There will be communication in advance to either ensure they have access or to warn them that they may not get in, so they may want to consider alternatives.

 

[runjulesrun]

Disney sells tickets based on usage date. Granted, they have a percentage of AP's out there that they need to account for but I would think their past attendance history would give them fairly accurate metrics to predict how many AP holders will want to enter a park per day. If they were within a certain range of their max capacity, wouldn't they cease ticket sales for that day to prevent pissing people off by closing a park? The wrench in this would be people holding tickets from when they were closed. Those tickets are not assigned a usage date and are good through December 15th. I would think that they could account for a certain number of those ticket holders per day in their numbers though. Wouldn't it be better to not oversell tickets for a certain date instead of selling too many and making even more people angry by denying them entrance?

 

[fabfemmeboy]

I do not think either of you understand corporate politics. The Disney company wants the parks full! If any of you think the board members give a lick about guest safety you really pull your head out of the sand.

The Disney Co will be provided cover by the Sate of Florida (ie “they said we could”) and the second covid wave that WILL come as Americans leave big cities and travel during summer... Disney will not standout because it will be happening in everywhere!

The purpose of corporate culture in America is to maximize profit. You really are living in Fantasy Land if you think they care about safety in any way shape or form. There is no safety from Covid at a place like Disney, it’s impossible for them to run a park and make money at 30% capacity, that’s the level it would take to make it work.

If you go To WDW in 2020, you are lying to yourself about your safety just to check the Mickey box. Go, have fun, just stop saying it’s going to be “safe”. And PLEASE stop saying how hard they are working to keep you safe, pure fantasy.

I don't disagree with you that they want the parks full and want the maximum profit possible. But you know what's really bad for profit - both in the short-term and the long-term? A bunch of dead guests. The surest way to ensure that people won't return for much longer than the virus lasts is to have everyone who showed up to the first wave get sick. The company may not care about my health or safety for its own sake, though on an individual level I assume that at least some of the people who make up that company do. But they do care about guests not dying en masse from an illness they said they were fighting for sake of their own PR. And Disney would still stand out because it's Disney. "Beaches" are a large place, with no real owner, no policy, and existing in a bunch of states/counties with different rules. Disney is Disney. Just like how it made massive news when Disney shut down even though beaches and museums and other tourist attractions had already been closing for weeks, if a bunch of people get sick after going to Disney it will make news and be a PR problem.

I fully embrace the corporate-shaming aspect of it. Companies will never do the right thing because it's the right thing, but they will often do a version of the right thing for public relations/perception reasons. I don't care if the only reason places are doing extra cleaning is because they think it makes them look better; they're doing more cleaning and I'll take it. Public shaming is the closest thing to accountability we have in capitalism, so I'll take it.

 

[yorkieteacher]

Honestly, I think there are plenty of people out there who would pay full price for a partial experience. They just want them some Disney.

Although I do get to pick and choose what experiences to enjoy, every time I’ve been to Disney it’s been a partial experience. A ride was broken down, we hit the wall on day three at 11 am, no fast pass for FOP and family wasn’t waiting 180 minutes, etc. I just tell myself there can be a “next time”. I hope this way we can know beforehand what not to expect to get to do, and it actually could be less disappointing. If I am willing to lower my expectations, I generally have a better experience. But I surely understand why now would not be a great time for a first trip or only trip to WDW. I would put that kind of trip off for a year at least if that was possible-