Refuse to give Disney your Finger-print?

[TheDisneyClan]

I have not previously seen a thread about this, which kind of suprises me.

Just wondering in general how people feel about giving your finger-print each time you enter one of the Disney theme parks.

I just personally, find this so objectionable. No person in our family has EVER given in to this practice and allowed our finger to be scanned in order to enter one of the parks.

I know Disney's official statement is that they do not take the actual finger-print, but rather a "digital picture" of the finger-print. As much as I love Disney, I cannot get comfortable with allowing them to take a digital picture of my finger-print. So we NEVER participate. Not the old way they did it with the measuring of two fingers or the new way where they actually take a digital scan of the finger-print.

Suprisingly, we have only ever had to argue with a CM about this one time. They called their manager over (at our request) who informed the CM we could enter without putting our finger in the scanner. But every other time the CM just smiles, pushes a button, and in we go.

I am not a big fan of the ACLU, but I know they have taken a vocal position against this Disney practice.

Anybody else refuse to do it? Ever had a problem refusing? Interested in knowing how other Dis'ers feel about the subject.

 

[jctwizzer]

Gee....what do you think they would do with??????????
I see no reason to object....and think it's somewhat paranoid...JMHO

 

[Noevo]

I'm curious to what your objection is with it? You take much more of a risk of anything happening by giving your credit card info over the phone or at the front desk than you do using biometrics.

Obviously, I don't have a problem with it and am wondering what the objection is? privacy? what can someone do with a numeric code that stands for your finger?

 

[Simba's Mom]

I have not previously seen a thread about this, which kind of suprises me.

Just wondering in general how people feel about giving your finger-print each time you enter one of the Disney theme parks.

I just personally, find this so objectionable. No person in our family has EVER given in to this practice and allowed our finger to be scanned in order to enter one of the parks.

I know Disney's official statement is that they do not take the actual finger-print, but rather a "digital picture" of the finger-print. As much as I love Disney, I cannot get comfortable with allowing them to take a digital picture of my finger-print. So we NEVER participate. Not the old way they did it with the measuring of two fingers or the new way where they actually take a digital scan of the finger-print.

Suprisingly, we have only ever had to argue with a CM about this one time. They called their manager over (at our request) who informed the CM we could enter without putting our finger in the scanner. But every other time the CM just smiles, pushes a button, and in we go.

I am not a big fan of the ACLU, but I know they have taken a vocal position against this Disney practice.

Anybody else refuse to do it? Ever had a problem refusing? Interested in knowing how other Dis'ers feel about the subject.

I hope you don't ever try to get a Texas driver's liscence. Here we're required to be fingerprinted as part of the process. I don't know if other states do it. I never gave it a second thought.

 

[ProudMommyof2]

I totally understand your concern and I am very interested in the fact that you have refused!!

 

[Cass]

Good lord, I think only criminals should be worried about it.

 

[Noevo]

I totally understand your concern and I am very interested in the fact that you have refused!!

I keep hearing "concern" thrown around. what exactly is the concern?

 

[bradk]

unless you have evidence otherwise, they don't scan fingerprints. they say they don't. the software manufacturer says they COULD, but implies that they don't. disney has also said the recorded checksum isn't even unique, just statistically improbable to be the same between any 2 people.

whatever information is recorded isn't kept permanently and there's nothing tying it to identify you as an individual.

 

[Msblowfish]

I agree with the PP's. What's the big deal??? Some people just have to be difficult.

 

[Disnewbie_N_MO]

Wanted felon?????

 

[Noevo]

disneyclan? you out there still?

 

[bradk]

wouldn't matter if it's someone who's been convicted of a crime

first, it would have to be recording the fingerprint, which it isn't. second, it would have to be cross referenced to a database.

 

[jackskellingtonsgirl]

I don't have a problem with it. If they want to scan my fingerprints and run them through Homeland Security, the FBI, whatever then they are MORE than welcome to do so. I used to be a bank teller so the FBI has my fingerprints already.

 

[DonaldTDuck]

To say criminals should be concerned is a total misunderstanding of the process.This is not tied to the FBI files, nor is it a permanent profile. And if Disney so cared, they could deny you entry for refusal. They aren't likely to do that, but if enough people refused, then eventually it would disappear and be replaced by a photo id ticket with a surcharge for the picture.

 

[Amy&Dan]

I guess if the ACLU wants to take on Disney's fingerprinting system thats their right and yours as well. However, in the end, by the time I have given them my credit card number, my home address and telephone number and my life savings, I guess I feel like, whats a fingerprint? This is one of those things that if I overanalyze, will dampen my vacation, heck I go to WDW to escape realilty not live it. And I am not trying to minimalize your concern or anything, just telling you why it would never occur to me to not do this. If it keeps people from ticket fraud practices I think that outweighs the issue of them having my fingerprint.

 

[bookgirl2632]

If you haven't got anything to hide, who cares? Just let 'em have your fingerprint and move on. It's Disney! Lighten up!

 

[OneLuckyMom]

I've been fingerprinted so many times now that Disney isn't going to gather any data the government doesn't already have. And for those wondering, no, I'm not a felon I had to be fingerprinted when I adopted a child internationally (fingerprinted by both the state and feds on that one), when I worked as a contractor for the Department of Justice here in California (fingerprinted just by the state on that one) and a couple of other times generally related to volunteer work where I was interacting with children.

If the government wants your fingerprints, they'll come get them themselves. They'd be more likely to just follow you around the parks and pick up a bottle or something you touched when you threw it away - that wouldn't require a court order, while getting them from Disney probably would....

 

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

I actually find this kind of thing funny. WDW is not getting personal information from your finger print. They get that when taking down information when we make reservations. Examples being where our houses/apatmetns are located, credit card numbers and e-mails. So where is the ACLU opinion when a company like WDW gets our information that way? The finger scan is to make sure your park tickets belong to you, not for any other reason. If you don't agree with it then I suggest not taking your vacations to WDW.

 

[LilGMom]

Heck, if Disney wants some of my DNA upon entering the park I'd give it to them. I'm just happy to be there.

 

[TheDisneyClan]

Lots of replies quick! LOL

My personal concern is just a really a personal preference.

Not paranoid at all, I just object to providing Disney with the same info that the FBI would ask for..LOL

From an article from the Medill School of Journalism Northwestern University

However, the use of this technology has riled privacy advocates, who believe Disney has not fully disclosed the purpose of its new system. There are no signs posted at the entrance detailing what information is being collected and how it is being used. Attendants at the entrance will explain the system, if asked.

“The lack of transparency has always been a problem,” said Lillie Coney, associate director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, who added that Disney's use of technology "fails a proportionality test" by requiring too much personal information for theme park access.

"What they're doing is taking a technology that was used to control access to high-level security venues and they're applying it to controlling access to a theme park," Coney said.

"It's impossible for them to convince me that all they are getting is the fact that that person is the ticket-holder," said George Crossley, president of the Central Florida ACLU.



There have been hundreds of articles written about this. And anytime you have Republicans, Democrats, Indy's, Conservative think tanks, Liberal think tanks, the Religous right, and the ACLU all saying that something is fishy, well then I just personally error on side of caution and will not participate.

Besides, we get through the turnstyles more quickly refusing than those folks who actually put their fingers in the scanners.

Was not trying to offend anyone. We just get a creepy feeling about the policy and wondered how other people felt. I know there are thousands upon thousands of other guests who refuse the scans, but even if it was just our family that refused, that would be okay also.