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Just in under the wire.

Okay, guys, put away the 55 gallon drum of Beverly and the funnel.

Phew! I hate when I get the Barrel o' Beverly.

I don't think that she expected it to be free...it's just that she's used to spending $800 for accommodations for the week and then just buying dinner here and there. So the thought of spending $3000 for her family to spend a week at the world is quite a bit more. Plus they are a single income family...so budget is a big concern.

Not sure what your plans were, but have you considered doing an offsite vacation home that would cut some of the accommodation costs. If you got a large enough home where you all could split costs, it might work out better.

Just offering suggestions.
 
Holy crap!

We've had nothing but tornado warnings, touchdowns, and severe weather for two weeks. There are three bands of nastiness heading to the Nashville area tonight. Will this stop??!? Ugh

OK...Ranting over .... :thumbsup2

Here's hoping that this too passes.
 
Aaron needs to make sure he edits and posts it quickly! I enjoy listenin to everyone and I start to go on withdrawl within a week

If Aaron can ever find the time, we will need to do this weekly. :thumbsup2 <== thumb
 
I told them it's part of the oath we take, all top secret and stuff. We have to check in regularly or we'll be punished! :lmao:

:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:

Just in under the wire.

Okay, guys, put away the 55 gallon drum of Beverly and the funnel.

:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:

Not sure what your plans were, but have you considered doing an offsite vacation home that would cut some of the accommodation costs. If you got a large enough home where you all could split costs, it might work out better.

If only we knew some travel agents... ;)
 
Yeah... I don't even bother to try to explain anything to many people anymore... they've all pretty much got that deer in the headlights look when I do.

You either get it... or you don't.
When I first tried to explain it to my wife she acted like I told her I was going to dye my hair purple and dance in the street nightly. Now she just complains I spend too much time on them.

:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:

My inlaws were down and my wife gets a kick out of a bunch of guys who love Disney as much as we do. She asked me to describe what DisDads are and do. Afetr a brief "overview" it was like crickets and my face in 11th grade chemistry :lmao::lmao::lmao:
Its really hard to explain to co-workers that aren't Disney people.

You spend your free time reading about what?


Bad News I had to cancel our January trip for marathon weekend. for some reason DW thinks spending 2k on a couples weekend so we can run is a little exorbitant.

Good NewsI think I have almost convinced her spending the money on a Dec trip to DL is a good use of our money.

How many days should we budget for DL and California adventure? Is midweek during the 2nd week in Dec a crowded time? All my trip planning stuff is WDW focussed I need to get some DL stuff.
 
I've mentioned it before but if you could keep my FIL in your thoughts and prayers we'd really appreciate it. He had early stage prostate cancer and they performed an out patient procedure to freeze it and that went very we'll. While recovering he tore something internally and so they put him on bedrest. During the bedrest he wound up with chest pain caused by a blood clot in his lung. He was rushed to the ER and has been hospitalized since Saturday. It looks like things have improved some but he'd really like to come home and so far he's counts haven't improved enough for them to release him.
 
Bad News I had to cancel our January trip for marathon weekend. for some reason DW thinks spending 2k on a couples weekend so we can run is a little exorbitant.

Bummer

Good NewsI think I have almost convinced her spending the money on a Dec trip to DL is a good use of our money.

Definitely! Well worth it - and of course, a must-do for any true Disney fan, at least once in their lifetime. It is, afterall, the place that started it all. There would be no WDW without Disneyland.

How many days should we budget for DL and California adventure? Is midweek during the 2nd week in Dec a crowded time? All my trip planning stuff is WDW focussed I need to get some DL stuff.


DL is a very different animal than WDW in many, many ways. Of course the first thing everyone thinks about is the size difference - but - and this truly is a HUGE but - DL is located in the heart of an extremely populated area, whereas WDW is not. Let me explain a little first, as you will see why in a moment.

Southern California is really unlike so many other parts of the country. Cities and towns in other parts of the country end, and are often surrounded by green space before you arrive at the next city or town. Southern Cal is truly a congolomeration of many, many cities and towns that all run together - one ends and immediately you are in the next one. Sure this happens in lots of metro areas -but they stop sooner rather than later. In So Cal - you can honestly drive for 200+ miles and not have left the metropolitan area yet. There are five major counties that make up the L.A. Basin - populated by about 23 million people in that general area alone, out of the nearly 37 or so million in the state. Disneyland has an Annual Passholder base of well over 1.2 million people alone - and it's growing all the time.

Just as I have described my own experience of living out there, (and being an AP holder for more than 19 years) - many of those AP holders will "pop in" for dinner, or an attraction after work. Many others will just go and hang out for some shopping, etc. Not only is Disneyland an entertainment venue - but it is a shopping venue, a dining venue - and often times - serves as a "safe place" for kids to go to after school.

Thanks to the extreme decorating that takes place for the fall and winter holidays (Halloween begins right around Labor Day - and switches to Christmas within about 2 days after Halloween ends) December is a very popular time of year for the locals. Both the "Haunted Mansion Holiday" and the "It's a Small World Holiday" overlays are EXTREMELY popular, bringning tons of people in to the parks year after year after year. Both have been done for the past 13 or more years (IASWH for 15 or 16). Let alone the snow on Main Street, and the Christmas Fantasy parade, Believe in Holiday Magic fireworks... and on, and on.

Southern Cal also does not have a single school calendar - but rather many different ones. A number of districts adopted "year round" schedules many years back, whereby kids will go to school for like 8 -10 weeks, then have 2 or 3 off, and then go for another 8 -10, etc. Others operate on a traditional schedule... but it's not a true benchmark for when to expect lower crowds.

Just as WDW is a huge draw for folks from the midwest & everything east of the Mississippi river... DL is a huge draw for folks from the central plains west. It's a driving trip for many of them - and they go!

Naturally the worst crowds will happen in the later half of the month (we experienced the biggest day in their history on Dec. 28th, 2010 when they stopped selling tickets at 10 am having already reached capacity)... but early on it can be very busy as well.

I'm not trying to discourage you in any way - just arm you with information as you plan and investigate such an incredibly AWESOME potential trip.

As far as time to spend there - I would say 4 days is great. That would give you the opportunity to explore and enjoy both of the parks - and get repeat visits in to favorite attractions. Physically the parks are separated by about 200 paces (average man's stride) - and the entrances face each other. Hopping between the parks is extremely easy. (The entire resort is only about 600 +/- acres, and could fit inside Animal Kingdom and it's parking lot). Downtown Disney is located just to the west of the entrance esplanade, as are the three resort hotels. That number of days would allow you to enjoy DTD and the resort amenities as well. Of course more would be great - but it really is a good amount.

Surrounding DL - Southern California has ample other activities, places of interest and things to do as well. Beaches (they are warm in the winter months) are just about 20 minutes away. Of course Hollywood is not far away - and then there are the other theme parks such as Universal Studios Hollywood (it is an actual working studio - you never know who or what you'll see there - and the Backlot Tour is amazing - I worked there in high school too). Knott's Berry Farm is just about 10 minutes from DL, and truly is the original theme park in America. Legoland is not too far south, and then there is Sea World and the world famous San Diego Zoo. If you like skiing - there's some nice skiing not too far away in the local mountains - and of course the various sporting events as well.

Things to think about too:

  • Disneyland does NOT have a dining plan like WDW. What they do have is voucher based and stinks... it's better to just pay cash.
  • ADR's (called Priority Seating out there) are made 60 days or less (Not 180) - and often are available to walk-up guests (though I wouldn't count on it in December).
  • There is no DME-type service from the local airports (there are several), though there are buses that you can PAY for to get to DL. John Wayne (SNA) is the closest airport, but also one of the costliest to fly in and out of. LAX of course has the most availability being the largest. Long Beach and Ontario are great alternatives. You will need a car if you plan on going anywhere else in So Cal.
  • Like WDW - anything within the "price distortion zone" around the resort will cost more. The same meal you might buy at McDonald's at home will be 20-35% higher at the location on Harbor Blvd, directly across the street from the park.
  • If you have any unused park tickets from WDW - you can turn them in at the ticket booth and redeem them for DL tickets - at least that was still true as of January - you might want to research that on the DL board to be 100% certain.
  • Of course, DL has a variety of unique attractions not available at WDW - which are "selling points" too. WORLD OF COLOR at DCA being a huge one. The Matterhorn, Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage, Pincchio's Daring Journey, Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, Storybookland Canal Boats, Casey Jr. Circus Train, Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln, Roger Rabbit's Cartoon Spin, Davy Crocket Explorer Canoes, Indiana Jones & The Temple of the Forbidden Eye, Sailing Ship Columbia, Alice in Wonderland... just to name a few. Plus of course New Orleans Square & Critter Country - and the longer versions of It's a Small World, Pirates of the Caribbean, Splash Mountain and the actual STRETCHING Stretching Room in the Haunted Mansion taking you underground and outside the berm....

I'm always happy to answer other questions as they come up.
 
I've mentioned it before but if you could keep my FIL in your thoughts and prayers we'd really appreciate it. He had early stage prostate cancer and they performed an out patient procedure to freeze it and that went very we'll. While recovering he tore something internally and so they put him on bedrest. During the bedrest he wound up with chest pain caused by a blood clot in his lung. He was rushed to the ER and has been hospitalized since Saturday. It looks like things have improved some but he'd really like to come home and so far he's counts haven't improved enough for them to release him.

Most definitely. Lifting him up as I type, as well as for you and your wife.

My own FIL has been going down hill, with a visit to the doctor yesterday showing him that the tumor on his liver has once again doubled in size. My DW has now scheduled another trip out there at the end of May, beginning of June. The docs have also said that they believe he'll be gone before the summer is over. Time will tell of course, but she needs to spend more time with him - so she'll go, and we'll manage here on the homefront once again.
 
On a not so bright note, just found out during lunch (by a text message saying "just got here, she's gone":eek: from my MIL:confused:) that my wife's grandmother passed away. She had been battling lung cancer for a long time, so while not entirely unexpected, she was just doing her last radiation treatment for this round this morning before she was supposed to be sent back to the nursing home and apparently reacted badly after the treatment. I don't understand exactly what happened, the details I have are sketchy at best, but the wife is very upset with herself that she didn't get a chance to go see her last week. She was busy dealing with our son who was sick and then the Easter cantata at church, but she's really upset about it.


You and your family will be in our prayers
 
I don't think that she expected it to be free...it's just that she's used to spending $800 for accommodations for the week and then just buying dinner here and there. So the thought of spending $3000 for her family to spend a week at the world is quite a bit more. Plus they are a single income family...so budget is a big concern.

I apologize; I think that I was channeling my comment with what I was assuming was your frustration over the sudden halt in plans. Key word in bold. I should learn to stop assuming so much.

I've mentioned it before but if you could keep my FIL in your thoughts and prayers we'd really appreciate it. He had early stage prostate cancer and they performed an out patient procedure to freeze it and that went very we'll. While recovering he tore something internally and so they put him on bedrest. During the bedrest he wound up with chest pain caused by a blood clot in his lung. He was rushed to the ER and has been hospitalized since Saturday. It looks like things have improved some but he'd really like to come home and so far he's counts haven't improved enough for them to release him.

Will do. Hope that things make a turn for the better. Positive thoughts and prayers.
 
Most definitely. Lifting him up as I type, as well as for you and your wife.

My own FIL has been going down hill, with a visit to the doctor yesterday showing him that the tumor on his liver has once again doubled in size. My DW has now scheduled another trip out there at the end of May, beginning of June. The docs have also said that they believe he'll be gone before the summer is over. Time will tell of course, but she needs to spend more time with him - so she'll go, and we'll manage here on the homefront once again.

Thanks Stopher. I'll be praying for your FIL and your wife's trip as well.

Definitely! Well worth it - and of course, a must-do for any true Disney fan, at least once in their lifetime. It is, afterall, the place that started it all. There would be no WDW without Disneyland.




DL is a very different animal than WDW in many, many ways. Of course the first thing everyone thinks about is the size difference - but - and this truly is a HUGE but - DL is located in the heart of an extremely populated area, whereas WDW is not. Let me explain a little first, as you will see why in a moment.

Southern California is really unlike so many other parts of the country. Cities and towns in other parts of the country end, and are often surrounded by green space before you arrive at the next city or town. Southern Cal is truly a congolomeration of many, many cities and towns that all run together - one ends and immediately you are in the next one. Sure this happens in lots of metro areas -but they stop sooner rather than later. In So Cal - you can honestly drive for 200+ miles and not have left the metropolitan area yet. There are five major counties that make up the L.A. Basin - populated by about 23 million people in that general area alone, out of the nearly 37 or so million in the state. Disneyland has an Annual Passholder base of well over 1.2 million people alone - and it's growing all the time.

Just as I have described my own experience of living out there, (and being an AP holder for more than 19 years) - many of those AP holders will "pop in" for dinner, or an attraction after work. Many others will just go and hang out for some shopping, etc. Not only is Disneyland an entertainment venue - but it is a shopping venue, a dining venue - and often times - serves as a "safe place" for kids to go to after school.

Thanks to the extreme decorating that takes place for the fall and winter holidays (Halloween begins right around Labor Day - and switches to Christmas within about 2 days after Halloween ends) December is a very popular time of year for the locals. Both the "Haunted Mansion Holiday" and the "It's a Small World Holiday" overlays are EXTREMELY popular, bringning tons of people in to the parks year after year after year. Both have been done for the past 13 or more years (IASWH for 15 or 16). Let alone the snow on Main Street, and the Christmas Fantasy parade, Believe in Holiday Magic fireworks... and on, and on.

Southern Cal also does not have a single school calendar - but rather many different ones. A number of districts adopted "year round" schedules many years back, whereby kids will go to school for like 8 -10 weeks, then have 2 or 3 off, and then go for another 8 -10, etc. Others operate on a traditional schedule... but it's not a true benchmark for when to expect lower crowds.

Just as WDW is a huge draw for folks from the midwest & everything east of the Mississippi river... DL is a huge draw for folks from the central plains west. It's a driving trip for many of them - and they go!

Naturally the worst crowds will happen in the later half of the month (we experienced the biggest day in their history on Dec. 28th, 2010 when they stopped selling tickets at 10 am having already reached capacity)... but early on it can be very busy as well.

I'm not trying to discourage you in any way - just arm you with information as you plan and investigate such an incredibly AWESOME potential trip.

As far as time to spend there - I would say 4 days is great. That would give you the opportunity to explore and enjoy both of the parks - and get repeat visits in to favorite attractions. Physically the parks are separated by about 200 paces (average man's stride) - and the entrances face each other. Hopping between the parks is extremely easy. (The entire resort is only about 600 +/- acres, and could fit inside Animal Kingdom and it's parking lot). Downtown Disney is located just to the west of the entrance esplanade, as are the three resort hotels. That number of days would allow you to enjoy DTD and the resort amenities as well. Of course more would be great - but it really is a good amount.

Surrounding DL - Southern California has ample other activities, places of interest and things to do as well. Beaches (they are warm in the winter months) are just about 20 minutes away. Of course Hollywood is not far away - and then there are the other theme parks such as Universal Studios Hollywood (it is an actual working studio - you never know who or what you'll see there - and the Backlot Tour is amazing - I worked there in high school too). Knott's Berry Farm is just about 10 minutes from DL, and truly is the original theme park in America. Legoland is not too far south, and then there is Sea World and the world famous San Diego Zoo. If you like skiing - there's some nice skiing not too far away in the local mountains - and of course the various sporting events as well.

Things to think about too:

  • Disneyland does NOT have a dining plan like WDW. What they do have is voucher based and stinks... it's better to just pay cash.
  • ADR's (called Priority Seating out there) are made 60 days or less (Not 180) - and often are available to walk-up guests (though I wouldn't count on it in December).
  • There is no DME-type service from the local airports (there are several), though there are buses that you can PAY for to get to DL. John Wayne (SNA) is the closest airport, but also one of the costliest to fly in and out of. LAX of course has the most availability being the largest. Long Beach and Ontario are great alternatives. You will need a car if you plan on going anywhere else in So Cal.
  • Like WDW - anything within the "price distortion zone" around the resort will cost more. The same meal you might buy at McDonald's at home will be 20-35% higher at the location on Harbor Blvd, directly across the street from the park.
  • If you have any unused park tickets from WDW - you can turn them in at the ticket booth and redeem them for DL tickets - at least that was still true as of January - you might want to research that on the DL board to be 100% certain.

I'm always happy to answer other questions as they come up.

Thanks Stopher the info is great. I've had the fortune(not sure if its good or bad) of spending a fair amount of time in LA and the surrounding area for work, but the family has never been. We were thinking about flying out Saturday to John Wayne (this is a fun airport to take off from) and then driving down to San Diego/ Carlsbad for the weekend hitting LegoLand Monday and then doing DL Tues-Friday. Thanks for the advice on going for 4 days and crowd levels.
 
Thanks Stopher. I'll be praying for your FIL and your wife's trip as well.



Thanks Stopher the info is great. I've had the fortune(not sure if its good or bad) of spending a fair amount of time in LA and the surrounding area for work, but the family has never been. We were thinking about flying out Saturday to John Wayne (this is a fun airport to take off from) and then driving down to San Diego/ Carlsbad for the weekend hitting LegoLand Monday and then doing DL Tues-Friday. Thanks for the advice on going for 4 days and crowd levels.

John Wayne IS the fun one! Glad to help, but also glad you've experienced So Cal before. Some people I've given info to before got so scared after I shared with them :rotfl:
 
Sorry I always fall behind from work...


You can be sure of that! Last year I took about 1200 pictures over 7 days... I plan to take more than that this year :thumbsup2

Slacker! We took >2500 pics in 7 days (not including the photopass pics)

2900 in 10 days + 300 photopass last year


I had one that had on it...

WWJD for a klondike bar. Wife made me get rid of it. Something about angry mobs with pitchforks coming after me.

I so wanted this shirt, but was too afraid to offend

Oh, and it works on SD cards - so you don't have to worry about that 8 GB limit, simply pop in another SD card, and you have endless storage.

How exactly does the 8GB limit work? I do have a 16GB chip in, just loads a touch slower

I got to get that game. I think my daughters would really enjoy it.

So addictive. I love playing online, but my router keeps booting me off, if I want to play, I gotta switch routers
 
I've mentioned it before but if you could keep my FIL in your thoughts and prayers we'd really appreciate it. He had early stage prostate cancer and they performed an out patient procedure to freeze it and that went very we'll. While recovering he tore something internally and so they put him on bedrest. During the bedrest he wound up with chest pain caused by a blood clot in his lung. He was rushed to the ER and has been hospitalized since Saturday. It looks like things have improved some but he'd really like to come home and so far he's counts haven't improved enough for them to release him.

Most definitely. Lifting him up as I type, as well as for you and your wife.

My own FIL has been going down hill, with a visit to the doctor yesterday showing him that the tumor on his liver has once again doubled in size. My DW has now scheduled another trip out there at the end of May, beginning of June. The docs have also said that they believe he'll be gone before the summer is over. Time will tell of course, but she needs to spend more time with him - so she'll go, and we'll manage here on the homefront once again.

Prayers going 'round to all. :grouphug:
 
John Wayne IS the fun one! Glad to help, but also glad you've experienced So Cal before. Some people I've given info to before got so scared after I shared with them :rotfl:

There's an In and Out Burger just minutes from the Lax exit. It's competing with Chick-Fil-a for the official fast food of heaven. If its there how bad can LA be?:confused3
 
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