~ The Real Housewives of Orange County ~ Season 12~ 2017 ~ JULY 10th

I think Tamra is crazy.

While Shannon is flaky and overbearing, I think Tamra probably did say that. I think Vicki should speak up and tell. Tamra was caught in a bold face lie very recently so why should anyone believe her now? Heather does not know that while the party was being filmed but she knows now (because we all *know* she, and all of them, like to watch themselves on TV, lol)
Shannon was out of control but, really, it is all so twisted that I think she was totally frustrated. Why was Tamra following her around the condo screeching at Shannon like that? Maybe because she felt guilty because she knew she brought this on.
And...while watching WWHL tonight, I am convinced. She knows exactly what she is doing--causing drama for ratings. She thinks she is doing her job by being a *****.

They're all a bunch of whackadoos.

I think they should put Tamra, Sonja, Ramona, Vicki, Teresa in a padded room and see what happens. ;)
 
I think Tamra is crazy.

While Shannon is flaky and overbearing, I think Tamra probably did say that. I think Vicki should speak up and tell. Tamra was caught in a bold face lie very recently so why should anyone believe her now? Heather does not know that while the party was being filmed but she knows now (because we all *know* she, and all of them, like to watch themselves on TV, lol)
Shannon was out of control but, really, it is all so twisted that I think she was totally frustrated. Why was Tamra following her around the condo screeching at Shannon like that? Maybe because she felt guilty because she knew she brought this on.
And...while watching WWHL tonight, I am convinced. She knows exactly what she is doing--causing drama for ratings. She thinks she is doing her job by being a *****.

They're all a bunch of whackadoos.

I think they should put Tamra, Sonja, Ramona, Vicki, Teresa in a padded room and see what happens. ;)

I so agree with everything you said!
Why didn't Vicki say something?!!? And then Tamra was on WWHL and no mention of the fact that Vicki backed up Shannon's story! She keeps saying 'I don't lie' and no one brings up the fact that she was JUST CAUGHT in a lie!!

Tamra is going to be a grandmother.
 
I think tamra did say it but I don't think Heather and Terry did. I think Tamra totally made it up. But I also think Shannon is OBSESSED with Heather. She says heather can't let things go but she is constantly talking about heather throwing her out of her house. And in my opinion Shannon totally blew it completely out of proportion! She did ask her to leave but she did not do it the way Shannon said she did.
 
I think tamra did say it but I don't think Heather and Terry did. I think Tamra totally made it up. But I also think Shannon is OBSESSED with Heather. She says heather can't let things go but she is constantly talking about heather throwing her out of her house. And in my opinion Shannon totally blew it completely out of proportion! She did ask her to leave but she did not do it the way Shannon said she did.

I don't think they said it either because if it was said several times it would have been on tape at some point. I think Bravo would run with that scenario if they actually had Terry or Heather saying that.

I don't know what to think about Tamra saying it or not. I wouldn't be surprised at all if she did but Shannon so distorts stories and experiences and is so cuckoo, I wouldn't be surprised if it is all in her head.

Tamra did say on Watch What Happens Live that it is her job to cause trouble.
 
I'm one of those people who couldn't care LESS what someone says about me so Shannon is driving me crazy! It's like, every chance she gets she brings up Heather and whether she/he said this about her....it's ANNOYING! And I'm so sick of everyone picking the absolute WORSE moment to have a confrontation.

I personally think Tamra is trying to make Shannon go crazy. LOL!
 
Tamra never actually said she didn't say SOMETHING about what Terry said...she said that he didn't say THAT. Somewhere along the line, she said something that made me think it was a matter of semantics, and she had said something close to what Shannon was claiming, but not exactly, so she's going to lie (!) and play dumb.

I don't think that if something was said that it had to have been on camera. They're not filmed 24/7. And if it was filmed, the producers are in their glory watching the drama play out and not showing it. If they spell out everything that really happened, we the viewers aren't going to be sitting here wondering "did she or didn't she..." and keep coming back for more.

I would not be at all surprised to hear Terry making some type of statement like that. I doubt he meant anything particularly sinister, but I think Terry and Heather both have a "nobody crosses me" attitude, and they're not happy with how Shannon has ALLEGEDLY treated Heather. I can absolutely see Terry saying, in some way, "privately" :rolleyes: to Tamra that they were going to affect the outcome of the Beadors on the show.

Terry and Heather are so made for each other. They're uppity and nasty and their whole faces (except the botoxed parts) twist with hostility when they speak. And I just don't understand medical people doing these shows. Don't they care about reputation? Altho I guess if Terry is good, and doing plastic surgery in Beverly Hills, his clients are just more of the same.
 
I think Tamra is crazy. While Shannon is flaky and overbearing, I think Tamra probably did say that. I think Vicki should speak up and tell. Tamra was caught in a bold face lie very recently so why should anyone believe her now? Heather does not know that while the party was being filmed but she knows now (because we all *know* she, and all of them, like to watch themselves on TV, lol) Shannon was out of control but, really, it is all so twisted that I think she was totally frustrated. Why was Tamra following her around the condo screeching at Shannon like that? Maybe because she felt guilty because she knew she brought this on. And...while watching WWHL tonight, I am convinced. She knows exactly what she is doing--causing drama for ratings. She thinks she is doing her job by being a *****. They're all a bunch of whackadoos. I think they should put Tamra, Sonja, Ramona, Vicki, Teresa in a padded room and see what happens. ;)

Didn't Tamara say on wwhl she does what she does for ratings?? I haven't watched it yet but I thought I saw her quote on fb

(Watching the little mermaid with dd2, my dvr will have to wait until later)
 
I think tamra did say it but I don't think Heather and Terry did. I think Tamra totally made it up. But I also think Shannon is OBSESSED with Heather. She says heather can't let things go but she is constantly talking about heather throwing her out of her house. And in my opinion Shannon totally blew it completely out of proportion! She did ask her to leave but she did not do it the way Shannon said she did.

Agree!! Shannon seems so on edge (and that was before the whole moving out/divorce talk abd email). She makes me in edge just watching her
 
I kind of agree with Heather that Shannon and her husband really need to be upset with Shannon. If you don't want people talking about your marriage then Shannon shouldn't have said anything.

I actually really like Terry. I can totally see him saying something about not caring for Shannon and her husband but saying he would take them down doesn't sound like something he would say IMO. He just seems too laid back for all of that.
 
Ew, Tamra's creepy son reproduced. :eek: I figured that's what the previews were...that Tamra is going to be a grandmother.
 
Tamra never actually said she didn't say SOMETHING about what Terry said...she said that he didn't say THAT. Somewhere along the line, she said something that made me think it was a matter of semantics, and she had said something close to what Shannon was claiming, but not exactly, so she's going to lie (!) and play dumb.

I don't think that if something was said that it had to have been on camera. They're not filmed 24/7. And if it was filmed, the producers are in their glory watching the drama play out and not showing it. If they spell out everything that really happened, we the viewers aren't going to be sitting here wondering "did she or didn't she..." and keep coming back for more.

I would not be at all surprised to hear Terry making some type of statement like that. I doubt he meant anything particularly sinister, but I think Terry and Heather both have a "nobody crosses me" attitude, and they're not happy with how Shannon has ALLEGEDLY treated Heather. I can absolutely see Terry saying, in some way, "privately" :rolleyes: to Tamra that they were going to affect the outcome of the Beadors on the show.

Terry and Heather are so made for each other. They're uppity and nasty and their whole faces (except the botoxed parts) twist with hostility when they speak. And I just don't understand medical people doing these shows. Don't they care about reputation? Altho I guess if Terry is good, and doing plastic surgery in Beverly Hills, his clients are just more of the same.

I noticed the same thing. I think she either totally made it up or Terry did say something but Tamra retold it to mean something he didn't.
It seems that's what she did with the whole Heather "pick a side" comment.

She's always in the middle of drama. Notice how she's the one that said Shannon drinks too much and Heather is taking all the blame for it. She even made a comment at the dinner party about Shannon being drunk and that was before Shannon got super upset.

Oh and what is up with Tamra's face on WWHL? I just put it on and she does not look good. She needs to cool down with the plastic surgery before she turns into one of those women with the lion face. She's getting close.
 
Even on the next episode, Tamra is talking about her yet again. I wonder who'll take the fall next time.
 
I wish Vicki would have stood up for Shannon and backed up her claim, but I get why she didn't. I am no fan of Brooks, but she felt tamra would have gone after him so she sat quietly.
 
I wish Vicki would have stood up for Shannon and backed up her claim, but I get why she didn't. I am no fan of Brooks, but she felt tamra would have gone after him so she sat quietly.
And I think that's why Shannon went so nuts when she did. I don't think SHE's crazy (altho she has her quirks)...I think that she's just so determined to try to get her point across, and she's got that vicious ***** Heather wagging that finger, being condescending, and not letting her speak. There was a time when probably EVERY other housewife had done the same thing, but at this point, Vicki has learned her lesson to back off so as not to be on the receiving end of Tamra's lying/stupidity/manipulation; unfortunately, she threw Shannon under the bus in the process. Heather is one big drama queen, with those crazy eyes and snarling mouth. Bleh. Vicki has become the voice of reason :eek: this season. She was spot on about the difference between raising one's voice and yelling at someone. Heather sounds like a whiney little brat that she got YELLED at at the Christmas party, and has repeated this "fact" ad nauseam. I love when they replayed what actually happened. Tamra is just her low class troublemaker self. Shannon tried to explain over and over and over and over and over again to Heather and a supposedly brilliant Dr Terry, who couldn't or refused to listen and understand, that she PRIVATELY asked Tamra if that's what she said, Tamra said she didn't, so The End. IF it was going to be brought up, it should have been between Shannon/David and Heather/Terry at a later more appropriate time, as David tried to do. But Tamra had to bring it up then, Heather and Terry flipped out and refused to hear what Shannon was trying to say. No wonder Shannon blew up.
 
I am shocked he has a girlfriend. But maybe he convinced some poor girl to date him to get on the show-guess what-it worked.
David is Shannon's husband (and I don't find him creepy at all :) ). Ryan is Tamra's son who got a girl pregnant (not sure if they "dated".) ;) He makes my skin crawl.
 
When Heather and Terry first came on the show I liked them both. then last year I liked Terry and hated Heather. This year I hate them both. LOL. It drives me crazy when she talks about being "yelled" at. :rolleyes:
 
Tamra is a pot stirrer. She likes to stir things up and then watch, all the while saying she didn't do anything.

Shannon appears to have some serious mental health issues. I do not think Heather is the problem at all. People see her as condescending when in reality what she is, is very even keeled. It takes a lot to really upset her and she is very controlled. She can lay out exactly how she feels about something without tears and drama and there's nothing wrong with that. Terry is just very easy going, which is actually good in a surgeon.

All that said, all these reality shows are story line driven and everyone amps up the drama and their character to get more airtime. It is what it is and we can't take it too seriously. If what we saw on screen was real, none of these people would ever have anything to do with each other. For all we know, Heather and Shannon are playing everyone.:rotfl:
 

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