Boorish behavior

[ofcabbagesandkings]

I saw two men almost get into a fight on CHRISTMAS DAY onboard the little train to get to the Animal Care Center at Animal Kingdom. One family (who in my opinion was at fault) was being impatient about the amount of time another family (that had an elderly aunt with them) was taking to scoot down to make room for the first family. I get it, you're tired, it's hot, maybe your kids have been whining all day and your spouse is being a grouch, but for pete's sake, don't unleash a string of expletives and threaten to throw down around a bunch of kids at Disney World of all places. It's amazing to me that some people never think about the example they are setting for their children with this behavior. TBH, it's a risk you take with any vacation that involves 2 or 4 thousand other people, which is one reason my family has avoided cruising until now - that's a lot of personalities all stuck on a boat together!

And do not touch or threaten any one else's kids no matter how aggravated you are with them or their parents. If someone intentionally sprayed sunscreen in my child's eye, well all I can say is in that case I would probably end up arrested by the end of the afternoon.

 

[thumpie's mom]

A few years ago, we were waiting in line to see one of the characters out at the gazebo. A little girl, maybe 7, cut in front of us. I don't think she really realized she was cutting and we weren't going to say anything. Two women behind us, reached around and grabbed the child by the arm and pulled her out of line. I was shocked since they were not her family. We let the cast member know immediately and they pulled the women out line to speak to them. I don't know what happened afterwards, but the Mother found us and thank us for watching out for her daughter.

 

[ladyofthetramp]

We had someone threaten to "beat us up" at WDW in line to get dessert in Epcot. They were the aggressor, they were behaving badly and we were seriously minding our own business. It was really upsetting and it upset my kids, who were quite young at the time. That is not how we as a family speak to others or conduct ourseleves in public. I don't get what comes over people. Maybe it is too much sun, alcohol, or "family time". LOL I don't know, but it was an experience I have never forgotten and do not ever want to have again.

 

[thumpie's mom]

We did have one other incident which still makes us shake our heads. We were in line at Pluto's and this woman in front us order the fish sandwich. She immediately starts yelling that the fish is not at the right temperature and they are going to cause her to be sick. The poor cast member tried explaining that the fish was safe, but in the meantime, someone had gotten one of the chefs. He in turn explained they are very careful to make sure all the food is kept at safe temperature's, etc. when she suddenly threw the fish filet at the chef, still yelling he was going to make her sick. Jose, one of the cast members knew what my daughter liked (2 chicken strips, no fries) and handed us her strips without being asked and we got out of there. It was the strangest thing though.

 

[mevelandry]

A few years ago, we were waiting in line to see one of the characters out at the gazebo. A little girl, maybe 7, cut in front of us. I don't think she really realized she was cutting and we weren't going to say anything. Two women behind us, reached around and grabbed the child by the arm and pulled her out of line. I was shocked since they were not her family. We let the cast member know immediately and they pulled the women out line to speak to them. I don't know what happened afterwards, but the Mother found us and thank us for watching out for her daughter.

Wow, unbelievable...

Some people take those lines so seriously! I mean... I'm all for standing in line but I don't understand why some people get so angry even when someone cut the line "without malice".

 

[MakiraMarlena]

Some people are jerks. DCL is not immune.

 

[KdKyA]

We were on the Fantasy one time and the kids were all up front to see Santa and Mrs. Clause read them a story. The adults were standing behind the rope and kids up front. We got there super early along with many other families. Just before show time, this drunk couple comes up front saying they were just dropping their girl of about 5 years old off so she can see. Ok, no biggie. Then they stood right in front of everyone instead of heading to the back. This ticked off a lot of people, one couple asked them to move because they were there first. The drunk couple started yelling and cursing at the couple that was there first saying that they had a child up front, which the other couple replied that they did too and that's why they got there early. The drunk guy started going off dropping some horrible non Disney words right in front of the other kids. I turned to the guy and politely asked if they could take their disagreement elsewhere or at least stop cursing in front of all the children, to which he told me with more cursing to mind my own business. The other couple left since they wanted no part of it. Then the drunk guy responded to his wife about threatening to throw the other guy overboard. That's when we left. Looking back, I should have said something to a CM, but in the stress and flustered situation, I just wanted to be as far as possible from him. Thankfully there were no man overboard issues. It just sickens me how these grown ups behave.

 

[cyclenut]

While these stories disappoint me, I am not surprised. People that exhibit poor behavior at work or at home aren't likely to change their spots on vacation. Unfortunately, when we walk away and/or don't tell someone, we reinforce the behavior. I'm not saying anyone should continue the confrontation, but I've found that with Disney if you summon a cast member, they usually do a pretty good job of sorting things out. Of course, I've also seen CMs become the victim of some pretty harsh confrontations, so that doesn't always help, but it does help clarify who the troublemakers are.

I've run across these people a few times. The queue of Casey Jr.s train at Disneyland, the queue for Splash Mountain on Mother's Day, waiting for the Pirate show on the Wonder and hunting for tables in Cabanas. Conflict is initiated when one party feels they are being victimized in some way or they are already behaving badly and don't want it pointed out. It's hard to know what drives the behavior.

Over the years I've observed there are three things that people will defend vigorously. 1) Their family (kids), 2) Their money and 3) their time. Any perceived threat or challenge to any of those three and there is a potential for an issue. Disney Security has a reputation for handling unruly guests quickly, which is often enough to discourage poor behavior.

As for spray sunscreen. I love the stuff. I used it on the balcony of my cabin before ever leaving the ship. It's usually most effective when applied prior to sun exposure. When it comes time to reapply, I try and find someplace away from everyone else and I pay attention to the wind. That isn't always possible if you are dealing with multiple kids all in different situations, but there is no excuse for becoming aggressive if you accidentally allow some to blow onto others.

 

[ACQUADUCK]

Talking Cabanas, that's when the less informed, " rules police" tell you off incorrectly, when you jump stations at Cabanas but someone thinks you must stay in line like topsiders. Even when CMs say you do not need to stay in line.

I have had the " rules police" tell me or my family not to jump the queue, they seem to know more than the staff, and get very annoyed.

As mentioned before, some cruisers feel empowered to take items of pool chairs when children are in the pool, dumping their stuff, once in the dirty towel bin, or controlling the adults only area rather than staff.

 

[dvcdisney]

We've seen lots of people being loud and inconsiderate and alcohol wasn't involved. I agree with many who say that some people are just not nice nor considerate and in most cases shouldn't be allowed in public.

There was only one time, during our Christmas cruise, that my family was directly affected. We were walking to go to our dinner in Animator's Palette and we are normally fast walkers everywhere. But anyway, there was a woman who was walking towards here family, very, very slowly, likely had some walking issues and when we passed her by, she started yelling at us. The whole area was not crowded and it was only her and, possibly relatives or friends sitting near the guest services. We were no where near her, in case she thought we were going to run her over. And she just started yelling...I didn't know until my husband told me because I was already down the hall before she started yelling. I didn't understand why she would yell because we weren't even close to her...but I realized then that she was just a jerk....

At that point, I realized that no matter how considerate someone may be there will always be people like that who may have their own issues who take it out on others....I try very hard to ignore it, but I think if I heard her say something, I would have asked to stop yelling down the hallway since it's inconsiderate and rude.

 

[Otimon]

Most unfortunate incident. A lot could be avoided if parents would get used to spraying the sunscreen on their child before getting off the ship! Dermatologists recommend applying sunscreen about 20 minutes before heading out into the sun so the skin has a chance to absorb it. When reapplying be courteous and take a moment to step away from other folks.

Just a note here. If you do use spray be sure to rub it on your skin after spraying, just as you would lotion.

 

[FigmentSpark]

Most unfortunate incident. A lot could be avoided if parents would get used to spraying the sunscreen on their child before getting off the ship! Dermatologists recommend applying sunscreen about 20 minutes before heading out into the sun so the skin has a chance to absorb it. When reapplying be courteous and take a moment to step away from other folks.

Just a note here. If you do use spray be sure to rub it on your skin after spraying, just as you would lotion.

Good point. DH decided one year that the way to do it was to keep spraying every half hour until it was running down his legs. If he'd been rubbing it in, he wouldn't have needed so much. Yes, he used a family sized can on himself in one afternoon.

 

[cyclenut]

Talking Cabanas, that's when the less informed, " rules police" tell you off incorrectly, when you jump stations at Cabanas but someone thinks you must stay in line like topsiders. Even when CMs say you do not need to stay in line.

I have had the " rules police" tell me or my family not to jump the queue, they seem to know more than the staff, and get very annoyed.

As mentioned before, some cruisers feel empowered to take items of pool chairs when children are in the pool, dumping their stuff, once in the dirty towel bin, or controlling the adults only area rather than staff.

I have sometimes been accused of being the rules police, but for me, it's not about rules as much as common courtesy. I don't cite rules when I ask someone to be more considerate, but I do ask. I noticed on our recent cruise that some people seemed to lose their manners about day 12 or 13. I know you can (and should really) jump stations in Cabanas, but I had a guy jump directly in front of me and gap the tongs as I was reaching for them. I said "excuse me" and he acted like I wasn't even there. I'm guessing he never really even saw me. I let it go, but it sort of stuck with me because it was so odd. I realized I hadn't seen any of this type of thing the entire time.

I guess my point is, most of us are a lot more tolerant of things when it's just once in awhile. We have no idea what people are going through. Had this been happening the entire cruise, I may have had less patience with this guest ... and that's not really fair to them ... but bad behavior can wear a person down (I know it does with me).

 

[ACQUADUCK]

I have sometimes been accused of being the rules police, but for me, it's not about rules as much as common courtesy. I don't cite rules when I ask someone to be more considerate, but I do ask. I noticed on our recent cruise that some people seemed to lose their manners about day 12 or 13. I know you can (and should really) jump stations in Cabanas, but I had a guy jump directly in front of me and gap the tongs as I was reaching for them. I said "excuse me" and he acted like I wasn't even there. I'm guessing he never really even saw me. I let it go, but it sort of stuck with me because it was so odd. I realized I hadn't seen any of this type of thing the entire time.

I guess my point is, most of us are a lot more tolerant of things when it's just once in awhile. We have no idea what people are going through. Had this been happening the entire cruise, I may have had less patience with this guest ... and that's not really fair to them ... but bad behavior can wear a person down (I know it does with me).

Agree, jumping in and grabbing tongs is wrong, you should be aware of thoose around.

I have had cruisers typically first day say, you have to stay in line in a queue, I would jump say re an allergy, a CM would be saying, no queue, move freely, and another cruiser will give you a very directly look, jumping to an available station.
Typically a few days in they actually work it out.
My children have been called out for being in the adult area, but 18, by fellow cruisers who thought they knew better, and my son, swimming, had his towel, sandals and tee shirt thrown in the towel bin, by someone thinking they knew better on saving seats.

The point is some feel empowered to enforce rules, if in doubt they should refer to a CM first.

Some cruisers are just plain rude enforcing their view of the rules. Agree those abusing do wear others down.

 

[rhoshi]

We've seen lots of people being loud and inconsiderate and alcohol wasn't involved. I agree with many who say that some people are just not nice nor considerate and in most cases shouldn't be allowed in public.

There was only one time, during our Christmas cruise, that my family was directly affected. We were walking to go to our dinner in Animator's Palette and we are normally fast walkers everywhere. But anyway, there was a woman who was walking towards here family, very, very slowly, likely had some walking issues and when we passed her by, she started yelling at us. The whole area was not crowded and it was only her and, possibly relatives or friends sitting near the guest services. We were no where near her, in case she thought we were going to run her over. And she just started yelling...I didn't know until my husband told me because I was already down the hall before she started yelling. I didn't understand why she would yell because we weren't even close to her...but I realized then that she was just a jerk....

At that point, I realized that no matter how considerate someone may be there will always be people like that who may have their own issues who take it out on others....I try very hard to ignore it, but I think if I heard her say something, I would have asked to stop yelling down the hallway since it's inconsiderate and rude.

I'm a slow walker who uses a cane most of the time, so I try to move over so that I'm out of the way of others. I don't understand what that woman's issue could be.

 

[mevelandry]

(...) Then the drunk guy responded to his wife about threatening to throw the other guy overboard. That's when we left. Looking back, I should have said something to a CM, but in the stress and flustered situation, I just wanted to be as far as possible from him. Thankfully there were no man overboard issues. It just sickens me how these grown ups behave.

That's pretty much a death threat...

 

[mevelandry]

I'm a slow walker who uses a cane most of the time, so I try to move over so that I'm out of the way of others. I don't understand what that woman's issue could be.

Following being hit by a car, I've had to walk with a cane for 7 months. I would do the same thing and would not get mad when people bypass me as long as we are not "in line".

 

[jk and ek]

Jerks are jerks regardless of location. We cruised a couple of weeks ago, and there was one older couple that were just the biggest pair of you-know-whats the entire week....starting before we even got on the boat!

At MCO when it was time to board the shuttle, we knew our group was about to be called so we went to the side of the roped off line and others lined up behind us. Then here comes the aforementioned couple who just ignore everyone waiting and go and stand in front of everyone. A CM tells them to move aside and join the line. They don't, they just sort of hover at a slight distance. When our group is called, we enter the line. I allow my in laws to step into the line before us and the kids, this is when the older couple barge right in front of us, splitting our group. Nope, not having it. I say excuse me. Ignored. Excuse me. Ignored. EXCUSE ME, we are traveling as a group could we please stay together? Oh at this point, I should mention the older couple was part of a larger group too...the rest of their group seemed fine to wait politely. Anyway, we rejoin our group and the husband in the couple was spitting mad about not getting his way and being first. Red faced and snapping angrily at his wife. We check in and board the bus. We take the rows of seat behind the seats with "reserved" signs for guests with disabilities. Some other people board, then here comes The Couple who board the bus and promptly toss the "reserved" signs on the floor and plop themselves into those seats.

Then throughout the week on the cruise, we saw this couple exhibit more bad/entitled behavior. Shoving past people who had been waiting for elevators and making sure they always board first (Saw this a lot because OF COURSE their cabins were on the same floor as ours). Shoving past people who were waiting for restaurants to open for dinner and making sure they were the first ones seated (OF COURSE they were on the same dining rotation as us), shoving to the front of people waiting for shows and making sure they get in first. Once they were already on an elevator and we got on and the Wife YELLED that she was getting off at whatever floor......seemingly angry that we had dared step into the elevator and "block" her in? Thats she had to share? I don't even know. There were more examples...literally every time we saw them, they were just acting entitled and inconsiderate. They were just a pair of nasty old jerks.

 

[Dug720]

While I agree that we 99% of the time should not intervene directly, when a threat is made, THAT is 100% the time to intervene by getting a CM involved ASAP. They would have a way to summon security and get the situation under control and help everyone feel safer.

(My "favorite" loud attitude experience was not on DCL but at the Barcelona airport after my Brilliance cruise a couple of years ago. There were a good number of pre-boards, and the female of the family next to me in the second Priority lane (there were two) started fussing about it and got louder and louder. (Meanwhile they had only paid Business Class for them but were going to try and get their coach-booked college aged sons (who were NOT standing in line) in with them through Priority... Ahem.) We started boarding, and because they had to argue about their "children" I was all settled in my seat (thankfully behind and on the opposite side of the plane) by the time they got there. The flight attendant started handing out cashews - I am not allergic but I don't eat them. By the time she got to the other side of the plane, the bursar had checked with me verifying my gluten-free and peanut-free status. She heard the attendant offer cashews and freaked out because of my peanut allergy. I could see Madame Huffs-a-Lot starting to gear up to complain and I said "Let her have them. I am not allergic to cashews, and my peanut thing is ingestion only and I just get a rash and wheeze." The bursar looked hesitant, so I pulled out my Benadryl and took a preventative dose and said "If I need to, I'll take more. TRUST me. Let her have the cashews for ALL our sakes.")

 

[KashasMom]

Sadly badly behaved people are everywhere, even on a Disney cruise. (I don't get the spray sunscreen thing. If you watch most people applying it, 90% of it goes into the air.)