Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[KBoopaloo]

Had a friend notified that their Spice Road Table reservation for December has been canceled. I wonder if the location will close now that Disney has control of it.

That’s a shame since it has all that outside seating which is in short supply for TS restaurants. But maybe they are still not getting many reservations.

 

[rteetz]

I honestly haven't figured out how we're supposed to know which websites we can cite/mention, but here's a quote from one, "Warner Brothers is twisting Universal’s hand and forcing them to open the Beetlejuice house for at least two days in 2020. This is the contingency they want in order for it to be open during the 2021 season."

Yep that’s what I had read.

 

[Eric Smith]

Had a friend notified that their Spice Road Table reservation for December has been canceled. I wonder if the location will close now that Disney has control of it.

I just got one of those as well. Reservation was for December 21.

 

[rteetz]

https://blogmickey.com/2020/10/disn...definite-closures-of-walt-disney-world-shows/

 

[TXAKDisneyFan]

MMRR gets too much flack because of what it replaced. It’s a perfectly fine addition. Would I wait 75 minutes for it now that I’ve ridden it? Almost certainly not. But I’ll probably ride it every time I’m in the park, something I didn’t do with GMR, and I really liked GMR. They could have done far worse as a replacement

Spoiler: MMRR ride spoilers?

I don't dislike MMRR, but it's not great. It sort of bothers me that it looks so much like a warehouse - so cold, some scenes (carnival) are way too "flat" (looks like someone just tacked up posters on garage walls). I also think they could have done more "set dressing" (like in the tornado scene) to make things more immersive. While the GMR could also be fairly dry, I think some scenes (the ones with live actors) were far more engaging than MMRR. Although right now they wouldn't have those running.

 

[dislee1164]

I just got one of those as well. Reservation was for December 21.

Oh no! I love Spice Road! Especially the little bar inside. I hope they aren’t closing the whole pavilion

 

[sullivan.kscott]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1322193624180891649

That thing is creepy, but could really improve HoP or be a cast member in HDDR. Eww

 

[MrsBooch]

ok - i read the Disney Parks Blog post addressing the entertainment cuts - I'm glad they addressed it.
They also addressed - whether or not I think this will actually happen - or when or which entertainment - bringing it back at some point.

So - is it still awful - of course. People are out of work.

But maybe not all of them maybe not forever?

 

[SaintsManiac]

ok - i read the Disney Parks Blog post addressing the entertainment cuts - I'm glad they addressed it.
They also addressed - whether or not I think this will actually happen - or when or which entertainment - bringing it back at some point.

So - is it still awful - of course. People are out of work.

But maybe not all of them maybe not forever?

Personally, I think some will be back. Not sure when or who, but I doubt it’s all gone forever. They’ll hire cheaper replacements.

 

[sullivan.kscott]

ok - i read the Disney Parks Blog post addressing the entertainment cuts - I'm glad they addressed it.
They also addressed - whether or not I think this will actually happen - or when or which entertainment - bringing it back at some point.

So - is it still awful - of course. People are out of work.

But maybe not all of them maybe not forever?

I read it the same way. But I was happy that they shot down the pessimists who said all of it was dead forever.

 

[Eric Smith]

Oh no! I love Spice Road! Especially the little bar inside. I hope they aren’t closing the whole pavilion

Yeah, I’m not sure what will happen. It looks like Disney will be taking full control of the pavilion of some point. It’s a shame, we were looking forward to it.

 

[sullivan.kscott]

Personally, I think some will be back. Not sure when or who, but I doubt it’s all gone forever. They’ll hire cheaper replacements.

I do wonder if this is a way to cut out the union? Maybe not, as they’ve had a long relationship that seems to have worked well for both parties. But it’s sure as heck a negotiating tool to bringing anything back.

 

[mattpeto]

ok - i read the Disney Parks Blog post addressing the entertainment cuts - I'm glad they addressed it.
They also addressed - whether or not I think this will actually happen - or when or which entertainment - bringing it back at some point.

So - is it still awful - of course. People are out of work.

But maybe not all of them maybe not forever?

I never considered any of them gone forever honestly.

I'd expect see most shows at least have return dates scheduled before the end of 2021, as there appears to be contract language to reclaim employees from AQA.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I do wonder if this is a way to cut out the union? Maybe not, as they’ve had a long relationship that seems to have worked well for both parties. But it’s sure as heck a negotiating tool to bringing anything back.

I could see it as bit of negotiating tool. I do think at the end though they want whatever is in the parks to be high quality - so rather than bring back "cheaper talent" they will just bring back less talkent. So if they had 780 in the past, maybe going forward then never have more than 500 or something (and work up to that over a few years)

 

[rteetz]

ok - i read the Disney Parks Blog post addressing the entertainment cuts - I'm glad they addressed it.
They also addressed - whether or not I think this will actually happen - or when or which entertainment - bringing it back at some point.

So - is it still awful - of course. People are out of work.

But maybe not all of them maybe not forever?

This response was typical corporate speak. We’re sorry we took this away but hey look what we are doing over here! It’s to try and stop the complaints.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

Forever and permanent are strong words. If they keep a theatre empty for 3 years and eventually stick something in there, it wasn’t gone permanently or forever, depending who you ask. Eventually things just become Disney legend that obsessed fans reminisce about, like Wonders of Life, and are not missing pieces.

Makes me think of the construction of the legendary years of Pop Century, which eventually was turned into AoA years after construction was stopped. I think we will see some of that kind of “return”, outside of the big things like nighttime shows that will return closer to form IMO. Some things as we know them not returning, period, instead replacements coming back in their places, and/or years (not months) until something is done. Ultimately most people don’t care Legendary years never came to be or don’t even know.

But I will disagree every time with people who think Disney is going to completely cut what makes them Disney and turn into Six Flags. I’d go on DISboards official record saying that one is not happening in our lifetimes.

 

[rteetz]

Forever and permanent are strong words. If they keep a theatre empty for 3 years and eventually stick something in there, it wasn’t gone permanently or forever, depending who you ask. Eventually things just become Disney legend that obsessed fans reminisce about, like Wonders of Life, and are not missing pieces.

Makes me think of the construction of the legendary years of Pop Century, which eventually was turned into AoA years after construction was stopped. I think we will see some of that kind of “return”, outside of the big things like nighttime shows that will return closer to form IMO. Some things as we know them not returning, period, instead replacements coming back in their places, and/or years (not months) until something is done. Ultimately most people don’t care Legendary years never came to be or don’t even know.

But I will disagree every time with people who think Disney is going to completely cut what makes them Disney and turn into Six Flags. I’d go on DISboards official record saying that one is not happening in our lifetimes.

I agree to an extent. Some if not most entertainment will return. Some certainly will not though.

 

[Sandiz08]

So through the end of 2021 contract speak sounds like they are giving themselves up to a one year break from this type of entertainment.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

I agree to an extent. Some if not most entertainment will return. Some certainly will not though.

I think we definitely see return at some point of either the same or replacements of a lot of it, it’s just a question of when. Because 2 years down the road for example is technically a return, but at the same time feels like a forever loss, you know?

 

[Sara W]

I was going to switch my Via Napoli reservation to Spice Road for Dec 18th in order to eat outside. I'm glad I never got around to it!