Land Border Opening?

[Jrb1979]

Same ole same ole phrase. I just wish they could give some kind of bench marker of what they are thinking how they plan to reopen...and yet again....crickets

I wonder if a lot of it has to the US vaccination rate and why they are hesitant to reopen it yet.

 

[ellbell]

On the Air Canada website I was checking out their covid information and under where to get a test in Canada or the US they listed 4 sites where you could purchase tests before your trip and send them through fedex or ups and get the results back before flying back to Canada

 

[Gigi22]

I wonder if a lot of it has to the US vaccination rate and why they are hesitant to reopen it yet.

I think it’s a fine mix of vaccine hesitancy in the US, the major COVID explosion in India which impedes their fulfilling contracts to produce vaccine (they are now purchasing vaccine from other sources), vaccine nationalism in a number of countries that also impacts supply, and a hesitancy to potentially put more pressure on Canada’s health care system by opening the border for something that is after all considered “non-essential.” Thinking the land border won’t open before we have 75% Canadian adults fully vaccinated. Late summer?

 

[cari12]

I wonder if a lot of it has to the US vaccination rate and why they are hesitant to reopen it yet.

Possibly. I think they are also concerned whether the variant that originated in India will show up in Canada and what effect it will have.

 

[pigletto]

I agree and think all those things are a factor. It’s definitely not time yet (IMO) with the Indian variant ( which has already been found here ), third wave still at various stages in various provinces, vaccines not at their desired level yet etc. But I do think we are getting much closer and that things are looking brighter.
I’m still betting on September or October for a start to non essential trips over the border but I’ll be pleasantly surprised with earlier.

 

[igrsod]

I agree and think all those things are a factor. It’s definitely not time yet (IMO) with the Indian variant ( which has already been found here ), third wave still at various stages in various provinces, vaccines not at their desired level yet etc. But I do think we are getting much closer and that things are looking brighter.
I’m still betting on September or October for a start to non essential trips over the border but I’ll be pleasantly surprised with earlier.

I agree it's not quite yet.... but I think it should be allowed before the end of the summer... if things continue in the way they are right now with dropping cases and greater vaccinations.

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

Possibly. I think they are also concerned whether the variant that originated in India will show up in Canada and what effect it will have.

It is already here, correct? NB has a number of cases with that one, I believe.

 

[damo]

I think it’s a fine mix of vaccine hesitancy in the US, the major COVID explosion in India which impedes their fulfilling contracts to produce vaccine (they are now purchasing vaccine from other sources), vaccine nationalism in a number of countries that also impacts supply, and a hesitancy to potentially put more pressure on Canada’s health care system by opening the border for something that is after all considered “non-essential.” Thinking the land border won’t open before we have 75% Canadian adults fully vaccinated. Late summer?

Yes, there isn't one "benchmark" number that will magically allow the borders to open. It is going to be a combination of a number of factors.

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

They may want to wait until school resumes as well. If they keep it closed until September, family vacations won't be taking place.

 

[pigletto]

They may want to wait until school resumes as well. If they keep it closed until September, family vacations won't be taking place.

And it would give more time to get as many kids (over 12) vaccinated as possible.

 

[mamaofsix]

My how things have changed since I started this thread back in February. Looking ahead, I tend to side with those that think it will be either Sept or October when the border fully opens again. The vaccines seems to be working well in other countries and should guard against a 4th wave next fall / winter. Finger's crossed!

 

[ellbell]

My how things have changed since I started this thread back in February. Looking ahead, I tend to side with those that think it will be either Sept or October when the border fully opens again. The vaccines seems to be working well in other countries and should guard against a 4th wave next fall / winter. Finger's crossed!

I think it will be sooner. Yesterday the US reported under 14000 new cases. That number is really small considering the population. Our numbers also dropped 27% from a week ago. I am now thinking we will be open by August.

 

[ottawamom]

We still can't get enough vaccine quickly enough in certain regions of the country. Ottawa as an example if you need one. People here, if they are able to get an appointment, are having to wait right now until the end of June for that shot. There are still nearly 500,000 people who would like shots who have to wait to get appointments. Yes we are getting vaccine but it is slow in some areas.

 

[ellbell]

We still can't get enough vaccine quickly enough in certain regions of the country. Ottawa as an example if you need one. People here, if they are able to get an appointment, are having to wait right now until the end of June for that shot. There are still nearly 500,000 people who would like shots who have to wait to get appointments. Yes we are getting vaccine but it is slow in some areas.

Is this because of supply in the area or the ability to accommodate people? I know that now the vaccines are being distributed by population. I'm in Hamilton and even with only on average 3000 people a day getting vaccinated up until recently we were having a problem filling appointments and this was before the hotspots were declared. Now that the hotspots aren't being priorities I was still able to book an appointment for my 15 year old only a week out. At a clinic. Maybe ask your MP if they have enough people available to provide the vaccinations and if there is a volunteer program to get more people giving shots.

 

[ottawamom]

The demand is there in the city. People will happily go get shots. There just isn't enough vaccine to meet the demand. Kind of sad actually. The supply will come, eventually. Until then people wait.

There was a doctor on tv at dinnertime saying she would happily staff and organize a 24 hours clinic to give shots if only the were made available to her.

 

[Donald - my hero]

Is this because of supply in the area or the ability to accommodate people? I know that now the vaccines are being distributed by population. I'm in Hamilton and even with only on average 3000 people a day getting vaccinated up until recently we were having a problem filling appointments and this was before the hotspots were declared. Now that the hotspots aren't being priorities I was still able to book an appointment for my 15 year old only a week out. At a clinic. Maybe ask your MP if they have enough people available to provide the vaccinations and if there is a volunteer program to get more people giving shots.

for us I know it's a supply problem, we have huge clinics and the staff to run them but since the vaccines were (rightfully so IMHO, put the fire out!) redirected to the hot spots we aren't getting enough to handle the demands. Appointments are weeks away and our seniors are going past the time for second shots - my mom is 81, had her 1st shot on March 3rd, she got the link to book her next (our health unit went the pre-register route) last Monday and the earliest she was able to book is June 22.

this type of problem is why we need to wait until the middle of June to move forward with the reopening, the total vaccinated percentage is skewed by the sheer number of people in the hot spots (again as it needed to be) who are getting jabbed while other areas are dealing with scarcity. We'll catch up soon!!!

 

[samsteele]

We need more vaccines in all areas of Ontario and Canada. We need them now not a trickle over the summer and into the fall.

 

[bcwife76]

We need more vaccines in all areas of Ontario and Canada. We need them now not a trickle over the summer and into the fall.

Aren't we supposed to be getting like 2.4 million a week of Pfizer alone every week in June? I mean, it's not 10 million but it's more than a trickle.
Is Biden sending us more AZ? Because I certainly don't see him sending us any Pfizer or Moderna.

 

[ottawamom]

@bcwife76 we could certainly use those AZ for second doses for those who want them. I'm afraid they are going to run out of AZ before they are able to offer it to everyone who had a first dose. Not too sure about each of the other alternatives for the second shot otherwise.

 

[damo]

Aren't we supposed to be getting like 2.4 million a week of Pfizer alone every week in June? I mean, it's not 10 million but it's more than a trickle.
Is Biden sending us more AZ? Because I certainly don't see him sending us any Pfizer or Moderna.

Yes, 2.4 million/week from Pfizer...Moderna certainly is much more unpredictable. That's about what Canada has been averaging in actual shots in arms as well.