Well, we’re heading out after 8 wonderful days. We feel content and happy with our trip.

Sitting on the Sunshine Flyer at the Poly as I start this post. I will use this as a way to summarize our trip and maybe give some additional tips and information that we learned after eight days of using G+ and visiting the parks this year. I’ll also probably ramble a bit. 😊

In summary, even though I don’t like paying for the G+ service, and the overall massive cost increase over the last couple of years, I feel like we have our happy place back.

We visited during this same time last year when things were standby only, and if it went back to that we would never visit again. Sounds harsh but it just didn’t work for us versus trips with paper FP, FP+, or now G+.

Our touring style:
We are moreso night owls than morning people. If we don’t need to rope drop, we won’t. Thankfully due to G+, we did not rope drop once this trip and still got more done than I expected. If you read the daily reports we did A LOT. So thankful. For us, still not nearly as good as the old FP+ system, but is workable.

G+:
I will not do Disney right now without G+. I cannot state that enough. It saved us massive time every day, with possibly the exception of AK.


We prepurchased G+ for every day. (That’s not an option now, and must be purchased each Day of your trip if you want it.) For us, the only park where I question its value is Animal Kingdom. Looking back, I would not purchase it for AK, and purchase the $ILL for FOP instead. We waited in a two hour line for FOP at the end of the night and that was not magical. Even though I loathe the idea of $ILL, it’s the nature of the beast right now and I would pony up for it, but not get G+ at AK. Personally, if I am paying for G+ I feel that ALL rides should be included. None of this $ILL nonsense. Just because they can, doesn’t mean they should IMO.

G+ waits on average were under 10 minutes, and most of the time under 7. Overall they were faster than the old FP+ system by a bit.

Our G+ strategy:
You will need to be flexible, make adjustments, call audibles, etc. It’s part of the G+ game.

Optimally it was important to figure out when we planned to get to the parks. The earlier the better but rope drop was not necessary. I’m not arguing its advantage. Rope drop does get you a head start, but also has its drawbacks, which for us was sleep, energy and overall happiness. 😂 For us, we tried to time that first G+ window generally before the second G+ booking window, which is two hours after park open. You are able to tap into your first G+ before that 2 hour window, and immediately book another. Then keep rolling like that. It constantly puts you ahead of all those people who at 7am booked a G+ for later in the day and had to wait until two hour after park open.

Don’t forego using G+ for less popular rides. Many times you can book a G+ window very close to the current time for less popular attractions, then when you tap in, immediately book another one, and so forth. This can easily save 15 to 40 minutes each secondary ride at peak hours. Those times savings really add up. This is ESPECIALLY true at MK, and remember you can tap in five minutes early

Watch those popular rides. They will start pushing out in the day. Work them around your schedule. Sometimes they will be more than two hours out and you will have to wait 2 hours to rebook but that is how it goes. It’s better to book them than miss them. We had afternoon breaks so typically when we were done in the parks after lunch I would try to find a popular ride for dinner time or after and then stack more every two hours for our return while back at the resort.

Set alarms or reminders. As soon as I booked a G+ I would set an alarm for 1 hour and 58 minutes later to remind me that I could book another soon (if we hadn’t already tapped into our most recently booked G+ and booked another).

G+ Booking windows:
Just a general note to remember that windows are an hour long, with a five minute early grace period and I think a 10 or 15 minute late grace period. For instance if you are looking for a 5 PM time slot, a 4:00-5:00pm would work, as well as a 5:00pm-6:00, and anything in between. Work those windows to your advantage. We tapped in five minutes early on a number of occasions so that I could look another G+ right away

Be aware of those times in the day that are two, four, six hours after park open. Those are generally times when a lot of guests can book G+ again because that is their two hour window. For instance, if Magic Kingdom opens at 9 AM and the first additional booking window is 11 AM, at 10:45am BTMRR might be sitting at 1 PM and slowly crawling later at five minute intervals, but as soon as 11 PM hits it will start taking off and easily jump by an hour later within seconds. It is like that for the popular attractions at those two hour intervals. That’s why booking your fiirst G+ selection before the two hour park interval can really make a difference. You are able to pull your second G+, or more, before a lot of guests have a chance to even book their second.

Buses and transportation:
Excellent. Our average bus wait was less than 10 minutes. Our longest wait was around 20 minutes our very first day to AK, but we had just missed the previous bus (watched it drive away 😂)
We were fortunate to stay at a monorail resort and that was amazing for Magic Kingdom especially, as well as Epcot. Our average wait to Magic Kingdom was less than five minutes and Epcot 10 minutes or less.

Park hours:
Loved the fact that we had more typical park hours again. Magic Kingdom is open until 11 PM (woohoo!) and Epcot and Hollywood studios until 9 and I think 8 PM for Animal Kingdom . Those additional one to two hours in the evening make a huge difference. A lot of the little kids can’t make it that long and it really helps with the attraction wait times.

Dining and food:
Hard to find anything to complain about here. We have dined at many many sit down and quick service locations at Disney over the past 12 years, and this year felt that the quality has not degraded and everything was still very good. Our ADR‘s tend to be at places that don’t break the bank like buffets tend to do. We like to go places where we can order entrées, share entrées etc. One highlight was steakhouse ‘71 this year. We loved the wave in that location before and Steakhouse’71 for lunch was a very fun new experience with high quality offerings. If you have any questions about these places from our trip let me know, MK area: Steakhouse’71, Jungle Skipper Canteen, Kona Cafe, QS: Columbia Harbour House, Pecos Bills, Capt’n Cooks, Plaza Ice cream parlor, Aloha Isle. HS area: Kimonos, Brown Derby, QS: ABC Commissary, Backlot Express. EP area: Nine Dragons, Via Napoli, Beaches n Cream QS: French patisserie

Mobile order:
Mobile order might be a love or hate thing. We love it, but our kids are old enough to order for themselves. I would bring up the QS location, choose the time window we wanted to dine, and then hand the phone to the various members of our family and they would just add their items to the order and by the time we were done I would just submit the order. As we were getting close to the QS location I would hit the button that we were there and prepare the order. Much better than standing in line and I like the fact that the mobile order on the app shows pictures of the food items

Cast Members:
Overall cast members were very good. I will say that they seem to have lost a little of their magic luster. I think it is the fact that there are a lot of new hires. Hopefully over time that special magic will return once they get more seasoned.

Resort:
The Polynesian (renting DVC) was wonderful and the deluxe studios thankfully fit our family of five just fine. The two showers are a HUGE PLUS especially with two daughters. Really helps with getting ready in the morning, or at night to clean off. We don’t have a ton of extra space in the room but it is enough for us. If you typically stay moderate level, I would highly recommend looking into renting DVC for a similar(ish) cost. Canceling is less forgiving but renting DVC can pack a good “bang for the buck”

I will update this post throughout the day with random info as I think of it.

-Dan
Thank you so much for your reports. We visited last summer and I agree with you. The shorter hours, no FP/G+, and no nighttime entertainment took away from the experience. I knew that going in last year. So we arrived at the rope extremely early only to find our first attractions down at opening not once but three times. If our upcoming visit is similar to last summer, I would think long and hard about returning any time soon. I am looking forward to trying G+ and appreciate your tips. Your advice will help make this trip so much better. Thanks again!
 
Well, we’re heading out after 8 wonderful days. We feel content and happy with our trip.

Sitting on the Sunshine Flyer at the Poly as I start this post. I will use this as a way to summarize our trip and maybe give some additional tips and information that we learned after eight days of using G+ and visiting the parks this year. I’ll also probably ramble a bit. 😊

In summary, even though I don’t like paying for the G+ service, and the overall massive cost increase over the last couple of years, I feel like we have our happy place back.

We visited during this same time last year when things were standby only, and if it went back to that we would never visit again. Sounds harsh but it just didn’t work for us versus trips with paper FP, FP+, or now G+.

Our touring style:
We are moreso night owls than morning people. If we don’t need to rope drop, we won’t. Thankfully due to G+, we did not rope drop once this trip and still got more done than I expected. If you read the daily reports we did A LOT. So thankful. For us, still not nearly as good as the old FP+ system, but is workable.

G+:
I will not do Disney right now without G+. I cannot state that enough. It saved us massive time every day, with possibly the exception of AK.


We prepurchased G+ for every day. (That’s not an option now, and must be purchased each Day of your trip if you want it.) For us, the only park where I question its value is Animal Kingdom. Looking back, I would not purchase it for AK, and purchase the $ILL for FOP instead. We waited in a two hour line for FOP and that was not magical. Even though I loathe the idea of $ILL, it’s the nature of the beast right now and I would pony up for it, but not get G+ at AK. Personally, if I am paying for G+ I feel that ALL rides should be included. None of this $ILL nonsense. Just because they can, doesn’t mean they should IMO.

G+ waits on average were under 10 minutes, and most of the time under 7. Overall they were faster than the old FP+ system by a bit.

Our G+ strategy:
You will need to be flexible, make adjustments, call audibles, etc. It’s part of the G+ game.

Optimally it was important to figure out when we planned to get to the parks. The earlier the better but rope drop was not necessary. I’m not arguing its advantage. Rope drop does get you a head start, but also has its drawbacks, which for us was sleep, energy and overall happiness. 😂 For us, we tried to time that first G+ window generally before the second G+ booking window, which is two hours after park open. You are able to tap into your first G+ before that 2 hour window, and immediately book another. Then keep rolling like that. It constantly puts you ahead of all those people who at 7am booked a G+ for later in the day and had to wait until two hour after park open.

Don’t forego using G+ for less popular rides. Many times you can book a G+ window very close to the current time for less popular attractions, then when you tap in, immediately book another one, and so forth. This can easily save 15 to 40 minutes each secondary ride at peak hours. Those times savings really add up. This is ESPECIALLY true at MK, and remember you can tap in five minutes early

Watch those popular rides. They will start pushing out in the day. Work them around your schedule. Sometimes they will be more than two hours out and you will have to wait 2 hours to rebook but that is how it goes. It’s better to book them than miss them. We had afternoon breaks so typically when we were done in the parks after lunch I would try to find a popular ride for dinner time or after and then stack more every two hours for our return while back at the resort.

Set alarms or reminders. As soon as I booked a G+ I would set an alarm for 1 hour and 58 minutes later to remind me that I could book another soon (if we hadn’t already tapped into our most recently booked G+ and booked another).

G+ Booking windows:
Just a general note to remember that windows are an hour long, with a five minute early grace period and I think a 10 or 15 minute late grace period. For instance if you are looking for a 5 PM time slot, a 4:00-5:00pm would work, as well as a 5:00pm-6:00, and anything in between. Work those windows to your advantage. We tapped in five minutes early on a number of occasions so that I could look another G+ right away

Be aware of those times in the day that are two, four, six hours after park open. Those are generally times when a lot of guests can book G+ again because that is their two hour window. For instance, if Magic Kingdom opens at 9 AM and the first additional booking window is 11 AM, at 10:45am BTMRR might be sitting at 1 PM and slowly crawling later at five minute intervals, but as soon as 11 PM hits it will start taking off and easily jump by an hour later within seconds. It is like that for the popular attractions at those two hour intervals. That’s why booking your fiirst G+ selection before the two hour park interval can really make a difference. You are able to pull your second G+, or more, before a lot of guests have a chance to even book their second.

Buses and transportation:
Excellent. Our average bus wait was less than 10 minutes. Our longest wait was around 20 minutes our very first day to AK, but we had just missed the previous bus (watched it drive away 😂)
We were fortunate to stay at a monorail resort and that was amazing for Magic Kingdom especially, as well as Epcot. Our average wait to Magic Kingdom was less than five minutes and Epcot 10 minutes or less.

Park hours:
Loved the fact that we had more typical park hours again. Magic Kingdom is open until 11 PM (woohoo!) and Epcot and Hollywood studios until 9 and I think 8 PM for Animal Kingdom . Those additional one to two hours in the evening make a huge difference. A lot of the little kids can’t make it that long and it really helps with the attraction wait times.

Dining and food:
Hard to find anything to complain about here. We have dined at many many sit down and quick service locations at Disney over the past 12 years, and this year felt that the quality has not degraded and everything was still very good. Our ADR‘s tend to be at places that don’t break the bank like buffets tend to do. We like to go places where we can order entrées, share entrées etc. One highlight was steakhouse ‘71 this year. We loved the wave in that location before and Steakhouse’71 for lunch was a very fun new experience with high quality offerings. If you have any questions about these places from our trip let me know, MK area: Steakhouse’71, Jungle Skipper Canteen, Kona Cafe, QS: Columbia Harbour House, Pecos Bills, Capt’n Cooks, Plaza Ice cream parlor, Aloha Isle. HS area: Kimonos, Brown Derby, QS: ABC Commissary, Backlot Express. EP area: Nine Dragons, Via Napoli, Beaches n Cream QS: French patisserie

Mobile order:
Mobile order might be a love or hate thing. We love it, but our kids are old enough to order for themselves. I would bring up the QS location, choose the time window we wanted to dine, and then hand the phone to the various members of our family and they would just add their items to the order and by the time we were done I would just submit the order. As we were getting close to the QS location I would hit the button that we were there and prepare the order. Much better than standing in line and I like the fact that the mobile order on the app shows pictures of the food items

Cast Members:
Overall cast members were very good. I will say that they seem to have lost a little of their magic luster. I think it is the fact that there are a lot of new hires. Hopefully over time that special magic will return once they get more seasoned.

Resort:
The Polynesian (renting DVC) was wonderful and the deluxe studios thankfully fit our family of five just fine. The two showers are a HUGE PLUS especially with two daughters. Really helps with getting ready in the morning, or at night to clean off. We don’t have a ton of extra space in the room but it is enough for us. If you typically stay moderate level, I would highly recommend looking into renting DVC for a similar(ish) cost. Canceling is less forgiving but renting DVC can pack a good “bang for the buck”

I will update this post throughout the day with random info as I think of it.

-Dan
Thank you so much for sharing your experiences. You are a G+ master for sure! Soooo many amazing tips and tricks in your reports and I appreciate it so much!
 
Thank you for this beautiful trip report!

I was amazed on how much you did with genie+. I’ll use it for first time next april and I’m really scared, just because I’ll be with my parents (for dad will be first time ever!) and they don’t do well queues, especially my dad.
but from your report I learnt lots of tric, so, hopefully it will be good.
have a nice and safe trip!
 
Spent a half day at MK today. Myself, wife, and 2 DDs ages 9 & 6. We have another full day planned later in the week with Genie+. Here is a quick overview for those planning:

ETPE - SDMT
Haunted Mansion - we got here exactly at 9am
Small World
Tea Cups
Dumbo
Barnstormer
Little Mermaid
10:50 - Lunch at Pinocchio Village Haus
Meet Jasmin and Aladdin
Magic Carpets x2 - walk-on during parade
Tiki Room
Swiss Family Treehouse
Philharmagic
Carousel
Meet Tiana & Rapunzel - posted as 30, took 15
Mickey’s Magical Friendship Faire
Shopping on Main Street
On the bus by 3pm

Longest wait we had all day was 15 minutes.
 
Today was Epcot. Here was our order of attack:

ETPE - Test Track (first group)
ETPE - Frozen - walk on just before 8:30
Mexico Ride
Soarin - walk on
Remy - 9:35 G+
Meet Belle
Meet Snow White
Meet Anna and Elsa - posted 45, actual 15
Meet Minnie
Lunch
Seed Tour - walk on
Nemo - G+
Turtle Talk
Meet Pluto
Meet Goofy
Spaceship Earth G+
Soarin G+
Figment
Meet Venelope
Meet Joy
Frozen G+
Guardians Boarding Group 116 4pm to 5pm
Dinner
Test Track G+ - booked this after Remy
Bus back to resort at 6:45
 
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Today was Epcot. Here was our order of attack:

ETPE - Test Track (first group)
ETPE - Frozen - walk on just before 8:30
Mexico Ride
Soarin - walk on
Remy - 9:35 G+
Meet Belle
Meet Snow White
Meet Anna and Elsa - posted 45, actual 15
Meet Minnie
Lunch
Seed Tour - walk on
Nemo - G+
Turtle Talk
Meet Pluto
Meet Goofy
Spaceship Earth G+
Soarin G+
Figment
Meet Venelope
Meet Joy
Frozen G+
Guardians Boarding Group 116 4pm to 5pm
Dinner
Test Track G+ - booked this after Remy
Bus back to resort at 6:45
WoW that’s quite the lineup!!!
May I ask how long you waited for each character approximately? And did you get there before their actual meeting time or did you just line up when you got there?
My daughter would love to meet characters but I am not sure how much time I am willing to sacrifice to waiting in line since we are in Epcot just one day…
Thanks and enjoy the rest of your trip!
 
All were under 10 except Anna and Elsa and Minnie, who was 15 to 20. We saw a line for Donald that was easily 30 mins long. Anna and Elsa was the only intentional stop we made. The rest we just stopped at because they happened to be out or were coming out in the next few minutes with a very short line started.
 
All were under 10 except Anna and Elsa and Minnie, who was 15 to 20. We saw a line for Donald that was easily 30 mins long. Anna and Elsa was the only intentional stop we made. The rest we just stopped at because they happened to be out or were coming out in the next few minutes with a very short line started.
thanks, that's good to hear!
 
Hi all,

Im a newbie and hadnt been to the parks for about 7 years until 2 weeks ago. This was my first foray with Genie plus, lightning lanes, etc. I wanted to write what I thought worked and what Id do differently.

THESE ARE JUST THE PLANS THAT WORKED FOR ME AND MY 7 YEAR OLD. Some of this was luck related. Also, everyone is different. Some kids cant make it 5 hours without a meltdown. We have always been very active and GO GO GO so I knew she could hang through the 4 days, but even so, I wouldve changed a few things. I also know that the outline here worked for 2 but may not work for 4 people or more. This post isnt meant to be "DO IT THIS WAY OR FAIL" type of post. Just my experience.

I took my daughter to WDW for a 4 day trip July 10-13 2022.

Because we were only there for 4 days and were not going to park hop, my plan was 1 park a day and to try and leave mid day so she could nap, then return and do more rides. That part failed miserably as we never left a park. More to follow on that. My plan was to rope drop (be at the park before opening as close to he front of the line as possible) each park as well as use Genie Plus and Individual Lightning Lanes. I figured, though its more money to do this, when you go to Disney you know your going to spend money, so I wasnt going to try and save money when it came to one of the most important aspects of the trip, the rides!

We had a rental car and drove in from St Augustine FL. They charge you to park at the hotel but then if you choose to drive to the parks you dont pay to park at each park.

We stayed at All Star Sports.
That said, remember this whole post is based off of early theme park entry at each park.
Resort was great and she loved it, even though she doesnt care for sports other than gymnastics! The bus waits for no problem....10 minutes at max. We never had to wait for more than 1 bus as we were out there an hour before ETPE. In hindsight, I wouldve stayed at Art Of Animation to have skyliner access. Wouldve been great for Epcot as Ill write about below.

The itinerary was Day 1, Epcot, Day 2 MK, Day 3 HS, day 4 AK. We bussed to MK and HS. AK was the last day and we were leaving town for a 2 hour drive after, so we drove to AK.

The following park tactics allowed us to ride all the popular rides while never waiting more than 30 minutes during a peak summer week. Ill admit, some luck was involved!

Day 1 - Epcot:

Epcot was a different strategy. Epcot has two entrances. A main entrance and a back entrance called the International Gateway. There are only a few ways to get to the IG. By skyliner, boat, or walk. This is where it wouldve been nice to be at Art of Animation (there are other hotels also that you can do this, but AOA is closes in price and quality to where we were at) because they have skyliner access which wouldve brought us to the IG. Because we were at All Star Sports, we took a Uber in the morning to the Swan and Dolphin and did a 10 minute walk to the IG. When we got there we were 2nd in line. Now why is this important? Remys Ratatouille ride is right near the IG and is one of the most popular rides at Epcot, along with Frozen, Test Track, and Guardians. As soon as we were allowed in the park we went to Remys. Meanwhile I had secured a virtual queue for Guardians and ALSO purchased a Lightning Lane for Guardians. Because these two LL options dont count toward my regular genie plus LL, I also got a LL for Frozen. We got off of Remys, hiked to Test track, went over to our sched LL at Frozen, and went to wait for our 10am ILL for Guardians. By 10 AM we rode the 4 most popular rides at Epcot! We used the remainder of the day to ride Soarin, Figment, Mission Space, Spaceship Earth, etc. The plan WAS to leave mid day and return to watch the night time show, but as the day kept flying by we found that it was already 1pm and started to rain, so we ducked out and ate there. By the time that was done we knew if we left we werent coming back, so we stayed a little longer and missed out on the night time show. My other fear was watching this show late at night and ropedropping MK the next day with a 7yo didnt seem wise, as we would have to be waiting for the bus by 7am. We ended up leaving Epcot about 4, ate supper and used the resort pool till bedtime.

This strategy worked from park to park. We would rope drop a popular ride, pay for a ILL for another, and Genie Plus a third.

Day 2 - Magic Kingdom:

We took the first bus over to MK and purchased a ILL for Mine Train and rope dropped Space Mountain. This allowed us to then immediately do Buzz Lightyear and squeeze in a teacup ride before our mine train run, all before the park opened to general admission. Many people rope drop snow white, but honestly, the point of rope drop is to ride as many as you can BEFORE the place gets overcrowded and it seemed like we would get more done starting at Space. At 7 AM I had also Genie+ Splash Mountain. My theory on Splash, which has always held true, is ride it early because you know it WILL go down, PLUS, you have weather to contend with. If you think, Ill wait till its really hot at 1pm and ride it then, you may find its not running due to thunderstorms which usually strike late in the day vs early morning. Ironically, this was the day that Splash got shut down later in the day because one of the ride vehicles flooded with people in it so we were happy we did this at 10am. We ended up staying there all day till the nightime show Enchantment. This was where my trip planning needs a overhaul next time. We went for 4 parks, 4 consecutive days. In hindsight, next time I would plan a break day mid way in between, and also place the "night time shows" prior to a rest day. For instance, I wouldve done AK day 1, maybe Epcot day 2, day off to rest and relax, day 4 AK, Day 5 MK. This way we can see the night shows at MK and Epcot and not worry about waking early the next day. Next time!

Day 3 - Hollywood Studios:

Again, we bussed in early and were about 15 people from the front. I paid for ILL on Rise of the Resistance and got a LL for Tower of Terror with the pan to rope drop Slinky Dog Dash. Why LL Tower? Well, I didnt want it shut down later in the day due to weather AND I figd if we did it early we could probably walk on to Rock N Roller Coaster right nearby without a long wait early. When we got to slinky dog it was not running and the cast members told us they advised us going somewhere else but we could wait if we wanted. That said, we ran over to Smugglers Run and were so early for it my daughter and I had our OWN SHIP. After this we walked by Slinky which was still down so hit Mickey and Minnie Railroad. After that it was time for our Tower LL. Did that and hit Rock N Roller with a 5 minute wait. Within the first hour we rode 4 of the most popular attractions and had a ILL for Rise later on. Here is where luck played in. By 2pm we had rode on every ride we wanted and did most shows. I wanted to leave and come back before closing to try slinky again BUT I did something Ill never do again. I had made reservations at the Sci Fi Drive Diner for 3:30, so now we were stuck having to wait or forfeit a fee for cancelling. Whats worse was the service was soooo slow for food you couldve gotten at Woodys Lunch Box we didnt get out of there till 5:30. We rode all the rides and saw a bunch of shows etc and were about to leave at 5:30 when my daughter asked if we could check Toy Story Land 1 more time for a Sox the cat plush. I said ok. As we were walking I saw that the short line at Slinky of people waiting for it to open all started to stand up and move. We ran over and the Cast Member said they are now opening the ride! We walked right on! Amazing!


Day 4 - Animal Kingdom:


Here things were a little weird. Everest was out of service at 7am when I went to do genie plus, so I got a LL for the rapids and we rope dropped Flight Of Passage. After that was the Navi River, and we went to the safari. Post Safari we did the rapids and got a LL for Dinosaur. I saw there were ILL for Flight available so bout them because with Everest down we were gonna have more time. Anyway, we did Bugs Life, watched the kite show, ate, etc. I looked at the app and saw Everest was open with a 5 minute wait! We ran over and got on it. As we did I had a LL spot open so I booked it for Everest again. By the time we got to Everest it was a 30 minute wait (at 1pm!). We rode it, killed 20 minutes, and rode it again with the LL. After that we hit Flight for the 2nd time with the ILL.


To recap, I had 4 days, with a 7 year old, and I hadnt been to the parks in ages, but we were able to do ALL of the major rides and most of the base lvl rides and shows. I learned and here is a recap of DOs and DONTs. Again, luck was also on our side!

DO's:

Buy Genie Plus
Buy Individual Lightning lanes if you can afford to. I understand that a party of 2 vs a party of 5 over 4 days is a huge difference in cost.
Rope Drop. We were able to do so much in that first hour allowing us to take our time, look for hidden mickeys, etc.
Use International Gateway
Stay at a hotel with Skyliner access (its like a ride in itself!)
Plan out your LL and ETPE Rope Drop rides so that you can get to another ride nearby quickly and not have to run across the park
Book an extra day of rest mid vacation to refuel

DONT'S:

Make dining reservations. Quick service is the way to go!
Wait to ride weather sensitive rides for later in the day
Plan on a night show a day before rope dropping.
 
Day 3 - Hollywood Studios:

BUT I did something Ill never do again. I had made reservations at the Sci Fi Drive Diner for 3:30, so now we were stuck having to wait or forfeit a fee for cancelling. Whats worse was the service was soooo slow for food you couldve gotten at Woodys Lunch Box we didnt get out of there till 5:30.

That was a fabulous trip report! I just wanted to ask about the ADR where you decided to go rather than forfeit a fee for cancelling.

In your case, having been there all day with a 7 year old who perhaps needed a break, I'm wondering if you had gone to the SciFi Diner check-in and asked politely if you could skip the reservation because your child really needed a break, would they have waived the cancellation fee? To me, it's not quite the same as a "no show" if you approached them in person with a polite request to forego the reservation.

Although it does sound like you made lemonade out of lemons and had a great rest of the day.
 
That was a fabulous trip report! I just wanted to ask about the ADR where you decided to go rather than forfeit a fee for cancelling.

In your case, having been there all day with a 7 year old who perhaps needed a break, I'm wondering if you had gone to the SciFi Diner check-in and asked politely if you could skip the reservation because your child really needed a break, would they have waived the cancellation fee? To me, it's not quite the same as a "no show" if you approached them in person with a polite request to forego the reservation.

Although it does sound like you made lemonade out of lemons and had a great rest of the day.
Its funny because I didnt write about how truly bad the dining reservation went. So we had a 3:30 reservation and at 3:05 I checked in. We did not get seated until about 3:45. On top of that we then Ordered 2 cheeseburgers. Did not get the food for almost an hour. It was the only dining reservation I made for the 4 days and I only did it because my wife and I had eaten there years and years ago when we went and I wanted my daughter to see the restaurant. My wife passed away 3 years ago when my daughter was 4 so I just wanted to do something that would be Able to tie in back what I went with her mom but it really went South. I didn't like the idea of a reservation and having to be trapped in that time slot and the one I made I regretted so I will never ever ever do it again
 
I'm so sorry to hear about the loss of your wife. You sound like a fabulous Dad and the trip sounded like it will be memorable for your daughter forever!

Such a shame about that dining experience. My gut feeling is that had you approached the restaurant in person for your reservation but explained sheepishly that your daughter was exhausted from the early start and long day so far, and you really needed to return to the hotel rather than eat a sit-down meal, they would have told you to go ahead with no charge. I've never done it so cannot be certain, but just feel they would have some flexibility at the actual restaurant - they would be able to mark you as having checked in for your reservation, even if they agreed you didn't need to go through with the meal.
 
I'm so sorry to hear about the loss of your wife. You sound like a fabulous Dad and the trip sounded like it will be memorable for your daughter forever!

Such a shame about that dining experience. My gut feeling is that had you approached the restaurant in person for your reservation but explained sheepishly that your daughter was exhausted from the early start and long day so far, and you really needed to return to the hotel rather than eat a sit-down meal, they would have told you to go ahead with no charge. I've never done it so cannot be certain, but just feel they would have some flexibility at the actual restaurant - they would be able to mark you as having checked in for your reservation, even if they agreed you didn't need to go through with the meal.
I’ve actually cancelled after a reservation by calling later and explaining why we didn’t make it. The charge is prevent people from hogging reservations and the CMs are happy to fix things when you legit can’t make it.
 
Its funny because I didnt write about how truly bad the dining reservation went. So we had a 3:30 reservation and at 3:05 I checked in. We did not get seated until about 3:45. On top of that we then Ordered 2 cheeseburgers. Did not get the food for almost an hour. It was the only dining reservation I made for the 4 days and I only did it because my wife and I had eaten there years and years ago when we went and I wanted my daughter to see the restaurant. My wife passed away 3 years ago when my daughter was 4 so I just wanted to do something that would be Able to tie in back what I went with her mom but it really went South. I didn't like the idea of a reservation and having to be trapped in that time slot and the one I made I regretted so I will never ever ever do it again
So sorry for your loss rpmaill

Speaking of Sci-fi, I can only tell you from experience that it's one of the only "one and done" TS locations at WDW for us. It took us a long time to get seated as well, the food was just o.k. burgers and sandwiches, and it was just weird sitting in a car with everyone looking the same direction not being able to talk with each other easily. It was dark and almost weirdly quiet. It's a unique experience that you won't get anywhere else, but it wasn't our type of unique. :) Now we know.

Sci-fi isn't a good representation of most other WDW TS locations. I wouldn't hesitate to book another TS in the future. We typically have one per day and our 8 night trip last week was amazing for our TS locations. Average wait to be seated was probably 5 minutes, food quality was very good, and the wait staff was excellent. Sci-fi for us, granted it was a one time experience, was probably the worst we've ever had and at the very bottom of our list now.
 
So sorry for your loss rpmaill

Speaking of Sci-fi, I can only tell you from experience that it's one of the only "one and done" TS locations at WDW for us. It took us a long time to get seated as well, the food was just o.k. burgers and sandwiches, and it was just weird sitting in a car with everyone looking the same direction not being able to talk with each other easily. It was dark and almost weirdly quiet. It's a unique experience that you won't get anywhere else, but it wasn't our type of unique. :) Now we know.

Sci-fi isn't a good representation of most other WDW TS locations. I wouldn't hesitate to book another TS in the future. We typically have one per day and our 8 night trip last week was amazing for our TS locations. Average wait to be seated was probably 5 minutes, food quality was very good, and the wait staff was excellent. Sci-fi for us, granted it was a one time experience, was probably the worst we've ever had and at the very bottom of our list now.
Ha, we love scifi. My kids love the shakes. We usually do lunch so it's a nice break from summer heat. Wr actually enjoy the quiet.
 
Ha, we love scifi. My kids love the shakes. We usually do lunch so it's a nice break from summer heat. Wr actually enjoy the quiet.
Yeah, it’s just a matter of different preferences. I can understand why people would love it for the unique experience. It just doesn’t fit how we like to do our TS meals. It’s very popular so you certainly aren’t alone.

Dan
 
Its funny because I didnt write about how truly bad the dining reservation went. So we had a 3:30 reservation and at 3:05 I checked in. We did not get seated until about 3:45. On top of that we then Ordered 2 cheeseburgers. Did not get the food for almost an hour. It was the only dining reservation I made for the 4 days and I only did it because my wife and I had eaten there years and years ago when we went and I wanted my daughter to see the restaurant. My wife passed away 3 years ago when my daughter was 4 so I just wanted to do something that would be Able to tie in back what I went with her mom but it really went South. I didn't like the idea of a reservation and having to be trapped in that time slot and the one I made I regretted so I will never ever ever do it again

We enjoy SciFi, but have at times encountered long waits before. We now only book an early lunch adr to ensure we get seated quickly. That said, you had a 3:30 reservation, checked in 25 minutes early, and were seated only 15 minutes past your reservation time. I understand tired cranky kids (parents too) but sometimes popular restaurants can't accommodate seating you earlier than your reservation. Believe me, I have tried more than once to check in early to try to avoid a meltdown. Sometimes we got lucky, sometimes we had to call it quits.
 
Followed up our part day at MK posted earlier, with a split day visit today. Longest wait for anything all day was 10 mins. The main part of the strategy was to have 3 G+ booked for our return and to keep using G+ after that to essentially walk on and avoid all the 25 to 40 minute waits:
ETPE - Astro Orbiters
ETPE - Buzz
ETPE - Pooh
Splash - G+ (BTMR was down. Wanted to start there)
Pirates
Carpets
Little Mermaid
Barnstormer x 2
Dumbo x 2
Speedway
Lunch
Meet Merida
12pm parade
Meet Anastasia & Drizella
Daughter PULLED sword from stone
Peter Pan - G+ for 12:35pm
Left for afternoon break
Returned to park at 4:30
Jungle Cruise - G+
Dinner
Meet Cinderella & Elena - G+
Haunted Mansion - G+
Small World - G+
Little Mermaid - G+
Speedway - G+
Buzz - G+
Carousel of Progress
Monsters Inc. G+
Fireworks - found a spot in-front of castle at 9:05pm
 

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