Yet another "Back from the Wish" Review....

jrapps

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Just back from 3 days on the Wish. I debated whether or not to write a "review" as there are already a lot of threads on this but as opinions seem to be all over the map, I figured I would offer our perspective as well.

For reference, we are Platinum, this was my 18th DCL cruise. I will admit I already had a sour taste in my mouth before the cruise even left as we got locked out Palo Brunch. So many concierge guests onboard that by the time the Platinum window opened, it was all gone. As soon as we got onboard we tried to waitlist for it, but no dice. We didn't let it bother us too much as it gave an opportunity to try new food experiences as well.

So what did we think? Well if I had to boil my review down to 2 words...Exquisite....and Claustrophobic!

The ship is GORGEOUS. We did not mind the change to a new look, and while I love the other 4 ships, there was a beautiful elegance to the Wish. I wasn't sure how the departure from the nautical theme would look, but happy to report the ship was aesthetically amazing. We loved our stateroom (extended verandah on the bump-out) and the little touches of design everywhere were well placed. From the carpet to the light fixtures, they spared no expense. And they finally moved the light switches for the bathrooms INSIDE the bathroom. no more reaching out to turn the light on.

The ship is also a claustrophobic royal cluster of a design that I was not quite expecting, and our perspective (and MANY other people we ran into over the 3 days as well) was that the people who designed the layout of the ship had likely never been on a cruise. I can't possibly fathom a world where the people responsible for this mess have been on a previous DCL cruise, or Royal, Carnival, NCL, or MSC for that matter. Some of the things were just not thought out, and some were just plain stupid.

The ship is technically larger than the Dream/Fantasy but you would never know it. The venues are comically small, and I understand the idea of more smaller venues across the ship instead of fewer large venues. Maybe on paper that makes sense, but when you have Trivia in 1 small venue, you need to get there 45 min early to get a seat or miss out.

On the Dream they have 1 movie theater, on the Wish there are 2...makes sense, show 2 movies at one time. Except the theater on Dream holds 300 people, and the one's on the Wish hold 60 people each! Not sure who's bright idea that was.

Hyperspace Lounge is beautiful...and TINY. We thought it would be a Star Wars themed version of Skyline but not only was it much smaller, all "reservations" were also sold out. We got in during an open house so we could see it but not try any drinks.

The flow of the ship was also a mess. We actually liked the fact that there were only 2 elevator banks, it helped a bit, but navigating the ship was difficult, and not because it was different from the other DCL ships...we are seasoned cruisers on other lines as well. Never have I gone on a new ship from ANY cruise line and felt so discombobulated. On the top deck, the put 2 bars right in the walkway from port to aft, but not enough space to go around them with the railings...it was like Salmon swimming upstream just trying to walk around.

Oh the elevators...whatever you do, expect it to take forever. The elevators are so narrow you feel like a sardine, and the buttons are touchless...so inevitably ever time the doors open and someone in the back wants to get out, there's a person at the front that leans back to give them room, and their back "touches" every button.

The ship felt very much unfinished. Every wall sign has a badge on the top showing the deck you are on..except 70% of them were still missing. The replacement to the midship detective agency is still "not ready". Many bars were out of a lot of ingredients. My daughter tried to order a root bear float at the Bayou and was told they had no ice cream. Um, What?

In the main atrium area as you approach the Walt Disney theater, they have way too much real-estate dedicated to upscale shopping. 4 huge (and mostly empty) jewelry, watch, and handbag stores. I swear, one of the stores I never saw more than 2 people at a time in there. But Mickey's Mainsail (the only souvenir shop onboard) is up 2 decks, and is a VERY long and narrow store. After about 5 min in there, we had to leave it was so crowded. The most popular store on board, and by far the smallest one too.

The food was very good. We really likes the Marcelines market food choices, but again space was an issue. As we were walking around the buffet looking for seating, my 9 year old asks me if this ship is smaller than the Magic because there is no room to sit. I felt like the laws of physics were just paying a cruel joke on us.

The pool area food court was the best food on the ship. The BBQ and pizza were hands down better than any other ships pool-deck food.

The adult pool area is as others said, hard to get to, and ridiculously small. We spent 5 min there and checked it off our list.

The Oceanears club was fantastic as always, and the slide into it was done very well. My son loved it!

So all in all, we had a very good time. My family agreed we would most likely come back to the Wish at SOME point in the future, but not anytime soon. We already cancelled our Wish cruise for next year and replaced it with the Magic.

I am sure I had many other thoughts but that's all that comes to mind right now...feel free to ask anything, I will do my best to answer.
 
Great review. Thanks for taking the time to write it. It if fascinating to me how much reviews vary. I would like to try the Wish if it ever sails longer itineraries, but I don't feel like I am missing out on much by sticking to the older ships for now. We don't have any minors in our family anymore, and it feels like we aren't the target demographic for this ship, which is perfectly fine. My hope is Disney has just created more competition for itself that puts some pressure on pricing on the older ships over the long term.
 
Great review. Thanks for taking the time to write it. It if fascinating to me how much reviews vary. I would like to try the Wish if it ever sails longer itineraries, but I don't feel like I am missing out on much by sticking to the older ships for now. We don't have any minors in our family anymore, and it feels like we aren't the target demographic for this ship, which is perfectly fine. My hope is Disney has just created more competition for itself that puts some pressure on pricing on the older ships over the long term.
I feel like we would have enjoyed the cruise more if it was longer...not just because we love longer cruises but it takes the pressure off having to cram everything into those first few days.

I think for the foreseeable future, the Wish will command a price premium because it is the shiny new toy, and I'm ok with that if it means the classic ships are cheaper. When the first sister ship comes out in 2 years I suspect that will take the place of the 7-night Fantasy sailings and the Dream or Fantasy will move to Ft. Lauderdale. Then I never had to drive to Canaveral again! :)

If Disney's target demographic continues to be first time cruisers & concierge guests, the new ships will be a smash hit for them. But Disney overall has decreased their focus on loyalty (both at the parks and DCL). It's sad because we love DCL so much, but Royal is our main cruise line now. Prices are better, lately the experience is better, and they treat return cruisers like Royalty (pun intended!).
 
Thanks for the review!

Not getting Palo brunch bothers me. Did you try right at midnight on 120 days or later?
 
Thanks for the review!

Not getting Palo brunch bothers me. Did you try right at midnight on 120 days or later?
Right at the stroke of midnight on 120 days. The page loaded, it said Palo brunch was available but when I clicked it it said no times, I refreshed and it then said Sold Out. Same for Enchante Brunch. I spent from Midnight to about 1am refreshing over and over, signing out and back in, I just couldn't believe it.
 
Thanks for the review. We were on the MV and really enjoyed exploring the ship. Looking forward to our next cruise in November when we try out Concierge on board.
 
I feel like we would have enjoyed the cruise more if it was longer...not just because we love longer cruises but it takes the pressure off having to cram everything into those first few days.

I think for the foreseeable future, the Wish will command a price premium because it is the shiny new toy, and I'm ok with that if it means the classic ships are cheaper. When the first sister ship comes out in 2 years I suspect that will take the place of the 7-night Fantasy sailings and the Dream or Fantasy will move to Ft. Lauderdale. Then I never had to drive to Canaveral again! :)

If Disney's target demographic continues to be first time cruisers & concierge guests, the new ships will be a smash hit for them. But Disney overall has decreased their focus on loyalty (both at the parks and DCL). It's sad because we love DCL so much, but Royal is our main cruise line now. Prices are better, lately the experience is better, and they treat return cruisers like Royalty (pun intended!).

We swore we would branch out to other lines next year for Alaska, but found a good deal on DCL and went for it. We aren't even people who do Disney characters or really care too much about Disney theming. The shows are nice, but once you have seen them once, it isn't that appealing to us. But, we absolutely love the style of their ships, the service, the cleanliness, Cabanas, and think the food is pretty good. There is a "feel" to the classic ships that just keeps bringing us back. It's hard when you have to fly across the country or farther for many sailings and have limited vacation time. It's nice to know you will like the product and not waste a vacation.

That said, we really need to see if we can find what we like elsewhere to open our options a bit more, and maybe save a bit on the cost too. We are now thinking January 2024 will be when my wife and I try another line. Have you done any cool itineraries on Royal that you would recommend?
 
So it sounds like Wish is sailing at pretty much full capacity? I hope so because if spaces are that crowded at 70% or something, yikes. Did they announce a passenger count or are you aware what it was?

What did you think of the shows and dining entertainment?

I don't really care about weird layout, or being a bit confusing to navigate with dead ends or whatever, I'll figure it out I'm sure. BUT spaces being overcrowded and feeling like a sardine just walking around, that will really grind my gears. Seems some of it would be fixable with different scheduling of things to better spread out the crowds, hopefully adjustments will be made to help a bit at least.

It's really unfortunate that Palo brunch on the Wish looks to be just for Concierge guests. Not technically but in practice that seems to be the case, if Platinum can't get it at midnight on booking day. Also unfortunate if the adult pool area isn't enjoyable, that's one of our favorite areas on the other ships.

The movie theater thing I kind of get. I know the Dream one holds 300 but I've watched probably 10 movies on Dream/Fantasy and never seen it more than 1/3 full, except for the "premEAR" of Dr Strange when it came out while I was on Fantasy. Even that wasn't totally full, though to be fair it was at midnight. I guess time will tell if those theaters are too small for demand.
 
We swore we would branch out to other lines next year for Alaska, but found a good deal on DCL and went for it. We aren't even people who do Disney characters or really care too much about Disney theming. The shows are nice, but once you have seen them once, it isn't that appealing to us. But, we absolutely love the style of their ships, the service, the cleanliness, Cabanas, and think the food is pretty good. There is a "feel" to the classic ships that just keeps bringing us back. It's hard when you have to fly across the country or farther for many sailings and have limited vacation time. It's nice to know you will like the product and not waste a vacation.

That said, we really need to see if we can find what we like elsewhere to open our options a bit more, and maybe save a bit on the cost too. We are now thinking January 2024 will be when my wife and I try another line. Have you done any cool itineraries on Royal that you would recommend?
We love Royal. We typically do 7-night eastern and western Caribbean out of Miami, Ft. Lauderdale, or Canaveral on their Oasis class ships. The Symphony is our favorite. We also sail a lot on their Freedom class ship (one size down) which is about the size of the Dream/Fantasy, and on their Navigator/Mariner ships which are just slightly bigger than the Disney Magic/Wonder.

I hate to admit it but Royals private island is now on par (maybe better) than Castaway (it pains me to type that out). Especially if you have teenagers, the waterpark is so cool, but even the pool area with its swim up bar, and many beaches, my family loves going to that island.

The dining room food on Royal can not compare to Disney, but we enjoy the many upscale restaurants. But overall it is hard to beat Disney quality and service. Royal comes close in many respects and we have a lot of fun on them, but my heart is still with DCL.

We just booked our first Alaska cruise (Royal Ovation of the Seas) for next year. DCL was way too expensive for the same timeframe.
 
Very glad you posted your review!
We are approaching our first Disney Wish cruise and reviews like yours help us adjust our expectations and prepare so we can make the most of what is available. The reviews that gush about how everything is awesome but give little to no details or advice are worthless to me.
 
On the Dream they have 1 movie theater, on the Wish there are 2...makes sense, show 2 movies at one time. Except the theater on Dream holds 300 people, and the one's on the Wish hold 60 people each! Not sure who's bright idea that was.
From the perspective of a cruiser, I agree, those are tiny movie theaters for a ship. HOWEVER, over the last few years a lot of the movie theaters on land here have been torn down and rebuilt. The trend is more theaters per location, but not more than 50 seats per. So what you are seeing is what is happening in the movie industry.
 
So it sounds like Wish is sailing at pretty much full capacity? I hope so because if spaces are that crowded at 70% or something, yikes. Did they announce a passenger count or are you aware what it was?

What did you think of the shows and dining entertainment?

I don't really care about weird layout, or being a bit confusing to navigate with dead ends or whatever, I'll figure it out I'm sure. BUT spaces being overcrowded and feeling like a sardine just walking around, that will really grind my gears. Seems some of it would be fixable with different scheduling of things to better spread out the crowds, hopefully adjustments will be made to help a bit at least.

It's really unfortunate that Palo brunch on the Wish looks to be just for Concierge guests. Not technically but in practice that seems to be the case, if Platinum can't get it at midnight on booking day. Also unfortunate if the adult pool area isn't enjoyable, that's one of our favorite areas on the other ships.

The movie theater thing I kind of get. I know the Dream one holds 300 but I've watched probably 10 movies on Dream/Fantasy and never seen it more than 1/3 full, except for the "premEAR" of Dr Strange when it came out while I was on Fantasy. Even that wasn't totally full, though to be fair it was at midnight. I guess time will tell if those theaters are too small for demand.
I didn't hear numbers but we ran into folks that were on the 2nd of a B2B and they said that the cruise we were on (Labor Day weekend) was way more crowded than their first leg, but the ship feels sardine-crowded even on the first cruise when not at full capacity (according to them)

Some of the crowds might be fixable with better scheduling but some it is hard to avoid. Only 1 pirate show so everyone is on top deck at same time.

I can't really say it was a weird layout, just poorly designed use of space. Empty (and I mean EMPTY) jewlery stores, but other shops are overcrowded. Huge atrium even with the new stage, its a really spacious space, but the restaurants you can eat off the plate of the table next to you because it's so close. You cant even squeeze in between the tables.

On the Dream when you walk out on the pool deck (by Cabannas) there are tables by the windows, many lounge chairs that are shaded by the deck above, and plenty of space to walk. Even when you hit the soda machine area it isn't obstructed.

On the Wish, you try walking from Marceline Market to the front and you just scratch your head and wonder. There are almost no lounge chairs in the shade by windows (no space for them), and then instead of the soda area they made a bar, which is nice but the way the railings go around it it just makes no sense. Here is a picture, on a rare time it wasn't crowded, to give you an idea.

You just get the feeling when the design and executive team tested out the ship, they never subjected themselves to a 100% capacity cruise.
 

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From the perspective of a cruiser, I agree, those are tiny movie theaters for a ship. HOWEVER, over the last few years a lot of the movie theaters on land here have been torn down and rebuilt. The trend is more theaters per location, but not more than 50 seats per. So what you are seeing is what is happening in the movie industry.
The last time we saw a movie onboard was Shang Chi (on the Dream) on opening weekend Sept 3 2021. They played it around the clock in that theater to full houses. I cringe to think what will happen on this ship when a movie premiers.
 
The last time we saw a movie onboard was Shang Chi (on the Dream) on opening weekend Sept 3 2021. They played it around the clock in that theater to full houses. I cringe to think what will happen on this ship when a movie premiers.
We saw Pirates of the Caribbean Curse of the Black Pearl on the Magic about 5 months after it came out. It was a sea day, and the seas were very rough. Added a real sense of realism to the movie!
 
We pretty much agreed with everything the OP said and came to the same conclusions after disembarking the Wish (following a B2B) two weeks ago.

For the Wish (and almost certainly, the the next two new ships), being Platinum means nothing. Since there is such a larger number of concierge rooms, even Platinum guests - not staying concierge - will be completely shut out of Palo brunches, CC cabanas, mixology sessions, etc.

The most ridiculous thing about the two smaller movie theaters was that they always seemed to be showing the same movie in each one, often with only a 15 minute difference in starting times. Makes zero sense.
 
Very glad you posted your review!
We are approaching our first Disney Wish cruise and reviews like yours help us adjust our expectations and prepare so we can make the most of what is available. The reviews that gush about how everything is awesome but give little to no details or advice are worthless to me.
Here is my advice...

Explore as much as you can on Day 1. Walk every corridor and every stairwell. There is some amazing artwork and decorations everywhere and it will help orient you to the best ways to navigate the ship (And again, we didn't find it hard to navigate at all, just claustrophobic at times.

The second you get onboard, open the app, connect to Wifi, and try to reserve Hyperspace Lounge. Also go straight to Luna (we waited in line for about an hour there just to be told Hyperspace and Palo were sold out)

In Marceline market, if you cant find a table, go back to the entrance, there are hidden rooms right where you walk in (we discovered this on Day 3). The long hallway you walk down to get into the buffet, there are rooms of seats between those walls and the outside windows but nobody knows because its a solid wall.

There are 2 different videos on the AquaMouse, they alternate by day so on a 3 day cruise, Day 1 and 3 will be the same video.

If you want souvenirs from Mickey's Mainsail, go at an off-peak time. In fact, anything you can do at an off peak time will help with crowd control.

If you are looking for shaded loungers on the pool deck, try Deck 12 by Donald and Goofy pool. There are circular cutouts with lounges in the shade. There is almost no shaded loungers on Deck 11 because of the food setup.

Slide a saurus Rex is open to everyone, not just kids. Its an indoor walkup (similar to Dreams AquaDuck). The Aquamouse is an all new loading system, you get in and out of the float in the same place and they have a winding queue, just like a theme park ride!

In Arendelle, the show is in the center of the room on an elevated stage so everyone can see. In Marvel, there are screens on the wall where most of the action happens.

If you have a Beer Mug token from a previous ship, leave it at home. They have all new tokens on the Wish, I had to buy a new Beer Mug. They did say the old tokens are "still" in use on the old ships but made it sound like they woudl eventually be replaced as well.

Try the Beignets from Lunas. Worth it!

In the festival of foods, the Taco line is the longest because everyone customizes their own ingredients. The other lines move much faster. BBQ is very quick since its all pre-cooked. Pizza gets long because they cant cook the pizzas fast enough.

There is no place on the ship to get a bowl of fruit, salads, or healthy snacks like Flos. Also the many coffee bars around the ship do not have pastry treats like Vista cafe on Dream.

The Wifi is much better (not great, just better). We got the middle tier package, $100 for 2 devices over 3 days. You can't stream video but you can surf most websites, just feels like dialup at times.
 
Oh the elevators...whatever you do, expect it to take forever. The elevators are so narrow you feel like a sardine, and the buttons are touchless...so inevitably ever time the doors open and someone in the back wants to get out, there's a person at the front that leans back to give them room, and their back "touches" every button.
Did you all laugh like we did at the 20-person limit???
We learned fast that if you were the last one in, it was just better to step out on each floor to let other people out. Unfortunately, not everyone else did that. You definitely got to know people in the elevators. lol
 
So it sounds like Wish is sailing at pretty much full capacity? I hope so because if spaces are that crowded at 70% or something, yikes. Did they announce a passenger count or are you aware what it was?

What did you think of the shows and dining entertainment?

I don't really care about weird layout, or being a bit confusing to navigate with dead ends or whatever, I'll figure it out I'm sure. BUT spaces being overcrowded and feeling like a sardine just walking around, that will really grind my gears. Seems some of it would be fixable with different scheduling of things to better spread out the crowds, hopefully adjustments will be made to help a bit at least.

We heard - unofficially, of course - when we were on the Wish a couple of weeks ago they were sailing at approximately 85% of capacity.

The overcrowding of venues was a problem. When they did trivia in Triton lounge (seemingly, the replacement of D Lounge - but about 30% of the size) people had to stand out in the hallway. Same when they did trivia in the Bayou.
 
Did you all laugh like we did at the 20-person limit???
We learned fast that if you were the last one in, it was just better to step out on each floor to let other people out. Unfortunately, not everyone else did that. You definitely got to know people in the elevators. lol

Only way to get 20 people in those elevators would be 10 midgets, each with another midget on their shoulders.
 
We heard - unofficially, of course - when we were on the Wish a couple of weeks ago they were sailing at approximately 85% of capacity.

The overcrowding of venues was a problem. When they did trivia in Triton lounge (seemingly, the replacement of D Lounge - but about 30% of the size) people had to stand out in the hallway. Same when they did trivia in the Bayou.
Yes! I had forgotten about that one.

So venues like Luna and Bayou are open wall...you can see and hear as you pass, its not an enclosed room like D lounge was. So the overflow for trivia and music spilled into the hallways which are already too narrow. Trying to walk past the 2nd floor of Luna while a popular event was going on was ridiculous!
 

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