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AKV seems the best cost-effective WDW resort with the new 2024 dues

drjulianof

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It amazes me how AKV is such an under appreciated resort give its cost-effectives value in DVC. I own OKW and BWV but have to say that updating my spreadsheets made me appreciate AKV much more.

Probably just another of the thousands of spreadsheets created for this, but by quantifying value through dues+purchase price (resale)+price charts give AKV a very high place even comparing the traditional resorts for that such as SSR. Depending on how you investigate it (ALL INN being considering opportunity costs of time value of money vs NO OP 19years normalizing every resort to 19 years of life or FULL with all years of contract), it doesn't matter too much as a trend towards AKL being always in the green sections along with SSR and OKW. Opportunity costs play a significant role in some of the resorts, so value will be biased by the way you consider this as something relevant (I personally do), but nonetheless AKL and SSR are always good options for value-based evaluation. BCV, VGF and PVB are always on the more expensive side on the other hand.

To facilitate comparison, all numbers on each column were normalized by OKW set as 1, meaning that considering opp costs it costs 2.4 times to stay in VGF compared to OKW in a studio; or it costs 23% less to stay in a 2BR AKL room versus OKW, considering no opp costs and the full extension of contracts on pricing. And just by looking at the color scale it seems easy to pick out the most value-based stays.

These are not SAP points, but the real cost if you choose a home resort where you really want to stay at given the lack of availability at the 7 month window. As an owner at OKW and BWV, I might start considering AKL more dearly if I were to choose to extend my ownership in the future.

Sorry I could not manage to insert the link or the figure with the table.
 
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Made the leap into DVC this past summer with an AKV contract. Didn't do any hardcore spreadsheets but more of the "feel" was right in terms of it's value proposition. Didn't want to stay SSR or OKW and besides our little one loves animals so it had that going for it. We were able to snag a contract with a minimal delta between AKV and SSR. In fact most SSRs I see are listed higher than our AKV contract. What really made AKV worth it was the ability, or at least chance to book value and club level rooms. Even if a value works out one time out of 10 that's like adding half a year extra to your contract. And if a Kilimanjaro room works out, well heck that's a pretty sweet deal in and of itself. So yeah AKV is a great value proposition although I definitely can understand why people feel isolated or out of the loop so to speak when staying there.
 


For points - the Jambo House value rooms are the best point value compared to all the other resorts. They are very difficult to get unless you have home resort priority. Not only that they are near the Lobby of Jambo House versus farther down the long hallways.
 
Yes it is attractive financially, but not everyone wants to stay there given the isolated location And would prefer to be on the boardwalk or wherever else.
Agree, it may make a financial case, but as others have said over and over - there are other factors that go into these decisions as well. Our needs/ preferences are beyond just the value room consideration and if I ever want to stay at AKL, I have not found it difficult to pick up in the 7 month window.
 


Yes AKV are a little isolated, but the hotel is one of the best. I own at BCV and BLT for convenience but I prefer the atmosphere at AKV .
 
Maybe I'm missing something? it looks like the board sponsor has them holding at #8.
 
We've never stayed at AKV and are holding off until there is a significant refurb. One thing I've noticed is that there are rooms available almost any time of year at 7 months, so it's not necessary to own to stay there. It does seem very appealing, though!
 
We've never stayed at AKV and are holding off until there is a significant refurb. One thing I've noticed is that there are rooms available almost any time of year at 7 months, so it's not necessary to own to stay there. It does seem very appealing, though!
It's definitely not necessary to own there to get in at 7 months but if you do have a preference for Jambo/Kidani, Jambo in particular since it has a lot less inventory it can be helpful during more popular times like in early December as well as snagging the occasional value/concierge level room which you otherwise wouldn't get as opposed to SSR where pretty much every room category is available at 7 months. This is ultimately why we chose AKV over a SSR/OKW personally even though we like the rooms at SSR. The point charts are very similar between SSR and AKV but if we had to pick, 8/10 times we'd rather be at AKV for the theming and the savanna although it is nice to be able to walk to Disney Springs from SSR.
 
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Let's factor in the points charts...

'Cost of stay' of one week in a Studio using average pts/wk and the Fall 2023 Economical Rankings from https://www.dvcresalemarket.com/blog/best-economical-dvc-resorts-to-purchase-fall-2023/.

Alphabetical order:
AKV Value - 73pts - $922
AKV Standard - 102.2pts - $1291
AKV Savanna - 126.8pts - $1601
AKV Concierge - 160.1 - $2022
Bay Lake SV - 125.5pts - $1431
Bay Lake LV - 141.5pts - $1613
Bay Lake TPV - 168.8pts - $1924
Beach Club - 121.9pts - $1913
BoardWalk SV - 95.1pts - $1464
BoardWalk G/PV and BWV - 123.7pts - $1904
Boulder Ridge - 121.6pts - $1853
Copper Creek - 121.3pts - $1369
Grand Flo SV - 146.3pts - $1693
Grand Flo LV - 175.5pts - $2031
Grand Flo TPV - 217.1pts - $2512
Old Key West - 93.8pts - $1384
Old Key West (extended) - 93.8pts - $1284
Poly SV - 152.1pts - $1802
Poly LV - 180.5pts - $2139
Riviera SV - 133.6pts - $1554
Riviera PV - 166.8pts - $1940
Saratoga Std - 101.5pts - $1202
Saratoga Pref - 114.9pts - $1360

'Cost of stay' order:
AKV Value - 73pts - $922
Saratoga Std - 101.5pts - $1202
Old Key West (extended) - 93.8pts - $1284
AKV Standard - 102.2pts - $1291
Saratoga Pref - 114.9pts - $1360
Copper Creek - 121.3pts - $1369
Old Key West - 93.8pts - $1384
Bay Lake SV - 125.5pts - $1431
BoardWalk SV - 95.1pts - $1464
Riviera SV - 133.6pts - $1554
AKV Savanna - 126.8pts - $1601
Bay Lake LV - 141.5pts - $1613
Grand Flo SV - 146.3pts - $1693
Poly SV - 152.1pts - $1802
Boulder Ridge - 121.6pts - $1853
BoardWalk G/PV and BWV - 123.7pts - $1904
Beach Club - 121.9pts - $1913
Bay Lake TPV - 168.8pts - $1924
Riviera PV - 166.8pts - $1940
AKV Concierge - 160.1 - $2022
Grand Flo LV - 175.5pts - $2031
Poly LV - 180.5pts - $2139
Grand Flo TPV - 217.1pts - $2512

AKV is fairly well represented at the lower end of the 'cost of stay', but the Value rooms are probably not the right room to consider for ownership considering how difficult they are to book. Standard View comes out a little behind SSR Std and OKW (ext).

But if you're looking at a 'cost of stay' metric that factors in points chart, you really ought to also factor in your personal preferences as you're talking about specific room categories instead of just a vague notion of a point. For example, here's a cutdown list of rooms categories I would prioritize if I owned at each resort:

'Cost of stay' order, limited to my favorite room categories at each resort:
Saratoga Std - 101.5pts - $1202
Old Key West (extended) - 93.8pts - $1284
Copper Creek - 121.3pts - $1369
Old Key West - 93.8pts - $1384
Riviera SV - 133.6pts - $1554
AKV Savanna - 126.8pts - $1601
Bay Lake LV - 141.5pts - $1613
Grand Flo SV - 146.3pts - $1693
Boulder Ridge - 121.6pts - $1853
BoardWalk BWV - 123.7pts - $1904
Beach Club - 121.9pts - $1913
Poly LV - 180.5pts - $2139

AKV is looking more mid-pack here as I'm a Savanna-or-nothing person, behind RIV SV and only a little less expensive than VGF SV, both of which I'd personally prefer for most stays.

Shorter version: if you're looking at total 'cost of stay' you really ought to factor in more than just the monetary analysis and build in personal preferences. Also consider that if you buy fewer points at a resort with a lower points chart, you have less flexibility to stay elsewhere if you want to switch at 7m and keep your stay the same length.
 
at one point a few years ago, AKV dues were significantly higher than OKW or SSR to the point I was going to sell, but glad I changed my mind
 
Let's factor in the points charts...

'Cost of stay' of one week in a Studio using average pts/wk and the Fall 2023 Economical Rankings from https://www.dvcresalemarket.com/blog/best-economical-dvc-resorts-to-purchase-fall-2023/.

Alphabetical order:
AKV Value - 73pts - $922
AKV Standard - 102.2pts - $1291
AKV Savanna - 126.8pts - $1601
AKV Concierge - 160.1 - $2022
Bay Lake SV - 125.5pts - $1431
Bay Lake LV - 141.5pts - $1613
Bay Lake TPV - 168.8pts - $1924
Beach Club - 121.9pts - $1913
BoardWalk SV - 95.1pts - $1464
BoardWalk G/PV and BWV - 123.7pts - $1904
Boulder Ridge - 121.6pts - $1853
Copper Creek - 121.3pts - $1369
Grand Flo SV - 146.3pts - $1693
Grand Flo LV - 175.5pts - $2031
Grand Flo TPV - 217.1pts - $2512
Old Key West - 93.8pts - $1384
Old Key West (extended) - 93.8pts - $1284
Poly SV - 152.1pts - $1802
Poly LV - 180.5pts - $2139
Riviera SV - 133.6pts - $1554
Riviera PV - 166.8pts - $1940
Saratoga Std - 101.5pts - $1202
Saratoga Pref - 114.9pts - $1360

'Cost of stay' order:
AKV Value - 73pts - $922
Saratoga Std - 101.5pts - $1202
Old Key West (extended) - 93.8pts - $1284
AKV Standard - 102.2pts - $1291
Saratoga Pref - 114.9pts - $1360
Copper Creek - 121.3pts - $1369
Old Key West - 93.8pts - $1384
Bay Lake SV - 125.5pts - $1431
BoardWalk SV - 95.1pts - $1464
Riviera SV - 133.6pts - $1554
AKV Savanna - 126.8pts - $1601
Bay Lake LV - 141.5pts - $1613
Grand Flo SV - 146.3pts - $1693
Poly SV - 152.1pts - $1802
Boulder Ridge - 121.6pts - $1853
BoardWalk G/PV and BWV - 123.7pts - $1904
Beach Club - 121.9pts - $1913
Bay Lake TPV - 168.8pts - $1924
Riviera PV - 166.8pts - $1940
AKV Concierge - 160.1 - $2022
Grand Flo LV - 175.5pts - $2031
Poly LV - 180.5pts - $2139
Grand Flo TPV - 217.1pts - $2512

AKV is fairly well represented at the lower end of the 'cost of stay', but the Value rooms are probably not the right room to consider for ownership considering how difficult they are to book. Standard View comes out a little behind SSR Std and OKW (ext).

But if you're looking at a 'cost of stay' metric that factors in points chart, you really ought to also factor in your personal preferences as you're talking about specific room categories instead of just a vague notion of a point. For example, here's a cutdown list of rooms categories I would prioritize if I owned at each resort:

'Cost of stay' order, limited to my favorite room categories at each resort:
Saratoga Std - 101.5pts - $1202
Old Key West (extended) - 93.8pts - $1284
Copper Creek - 121.3pts - $1369
Old Key West - 93.8pts - $1384
Riviera SV - 133.6pts - $1554
AKV Savanna - 126.8pts - $1601
Bay Lake LV - 141.5pts - $1613
Grand Flo SV - 146.3pts - $1693
Boulder Ridge - 121.6pts - $1853
BoardWalk BWV - 123.7pts - $1904
Beach Club - 121.9pts - $1913
Poly LV - 180.5pts - $2139

AKV is looking more mid-pack here as I'm a Savanna-or-nothing person, behind RIV SV and only a little less expensive than VGF SV, both of which I'd personally prefer for most stays.

Shorter version: if you're looking at total 'cost of stay' you really ought to factor in more than just the monetary analysis and build in personal preferences. Also consider that if you buy fewer points at a resort with a lower points chart, you have less flexibility to stay elsewhere if you want to switch at 7m and keep your stay the same length.
Out of curiosity where did you get the average point numbers for the week? I had been thinking about doing this but if it's already been done that'd be even better LOL. I guess the big difference between us is we're okay with staying standard at Jambo because it's at the very least a pool/partial savanna view and is close to the lobby. Also OKW isn't an option for us (not a fan of the rooms) and if we're gonna do SSR, we're gonna do preferred for Congress Park so that puts AKV on top for our value personally but everyone has their preferences :P
 
Out of curiosity where did you get the average point numbers for the week?
Did it manually. Counted up the number of weekday nights and weekend nights in each season, made a spreadsheet of the points charts and let the spreadsheet do the math.

There might be some very minor discrepancies with the avg pts/wk above, I'm not sure I cleaned the WDW tab of my spreadsheet for 366 days in 2024. If there is an issue, it'll be off by no more than ~0.3% (366/365).

EDIT: No discrepancies! Don't even use 366 or 365 for the weekly calculation, just the daily.
 
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Our AKV points are our SAP. We like AK but we also like walking to Disney Springs. :) Always felt that using BL and BC points to stay at SSR wasn't the points to use.
 
I’ve been looking at AKV for a while, but the last few contracts have wound up being SSR as getting me the best value overall, partially because none of the AKV contracts I made offers on accepted. Like others have said, we’ve never had any trouble getting a reservation there at 7 months though, so I was just as happy with my accepted offers at SSR.
 
this is the best resort in our opinion. we didn't select it because of cost effectiveness but it's nice to know.
 

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