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[gmi3804]

Why do you think that? What would be different? In some ways probably more opportunity in Canada as we have more social safety networks, proper maternity leave (allowing people to take career risks) and our cost of college is way cheaper. And you aren't tied to an employer's healthcare.

Sorry I think your statement is just bizarre and radically uninformed.

But, you know, 'murica.

 

[Buzz Rules]

Almost definitely.

Which isn't the same as saying I have a desire to move.

But then again, which is the best place for steak in WDW?

Brown Derby?

 

[sam_gordon]

Never said that. We are far from perfect as is the USA. No country is utopia. But it was just an odd statement.
I did find it very confusing.

"I haven't looked into moving to another country" is confusing? Seems pretty plain to me.

 

[CdnCarrie]

"I haven't looked into moving to another country" is confusing? Seems pretty plain to me.

Saying other countries don't have as much opportunities is very vague. Not sure what you meant by it.

 

[Buzz Rules]

But, you know, 'murica.

Shouldn't that be a socialism vs capitalism argument instead of a patriotic one?

 

[Buzz Rules]

Saying other countries don't have as much opportunities is very vague. Not sure what you meant by it.

I think it's more about the particular opportunity one is looking for in regards to comparing countries.

 

[gmi3804]

Shouldn't that be a socialism vs capitalism argument instead of a patriotic one?

No.

 

[Moliphino]

Let me ask YOU this... where in the world would you rather live?

I would love to move to Spain.

 

[leebee]

The US has great healthcare. Move to Canada or some other countries and you can see the difference.

I'm sorry, I can't let this go. $70,622. That's the cost for the knee replacement surgery I had two weeks ago. $60,400 is the charge from the hospital. The rest is surgeon and anesthesiology fees. I haven't seen anything itemized yet (this was from insurance claims that have been processed) so I don't know if this is everything, or if there are more charges to come (medications, xrays, lab testing, etc). I was at the hospital for 11 hours.

It took 3.5 months to get the surgery scheduled, which is nothing; if I'd gone with a different medical group, they were booking a year out. I don't see too much "great" about this. At least I have "great" health insurance, at $350 a month and a $5000 deductible. I guess we have different definitions of the word "great."

 

[sam_gordon]

Saying other countries don't have as much opportunities is very vague. Not sure what you meant by it.

OK. I was wrong. Other countries have as many opportunities. Is that better?

 

[PolymerSkywalker]

One tiny little issue with Finland. 56.9% tax rate on average. If over half of your income is owed for income taxes, those social programs should be incredible!

 

[gmi3804]

I'm sorry, I can't let this go. $70,622. That's the cost for the knee replacement surgery I had two weeks ago. $60,400 is the charge from the hospital. The rest is surgeon and anesthesiology fees. I haven't seen anything itemized yet (this was from insurance claims that have been processed) so I don't know if this is everything, or if there are more charges to come (medications, xrays, lab testing, etc). I was at the hospital for 11 hours.

It took 3.5 months to get the surgery scheduled, which is nothing; if I'd gone with a different medical group, they were booking a year out. I don't see too much "great" about this. At least I have "great" health insurance, at $350 a month and a $5000 deductible. I guess we have different definitions of the word "great."

And you're one of the lucky ones who actually has insurance!

But rah rah! 'murica!

 

[CdnCarrie]

I think it's more about the particular opportunity one is looking for in regards to comparing countries.

OK. I was wrong. Other countries have as many opportunities. Is that better?

No need to be hostile.
Buzz it right it could depend on what factors you are looking at.
I was just curious what your reasoning was behind your opinion.

 

[gmi3804]

One tiny little issue with Finland. 56.9% tax rate on average. If over half of you income is owed for income taxes, those social programs should be incredible!

Where'd you get that info from?

 

[Buzz Rules]

No.

Well, it seems to becoming one. The thread was (unless I'm interpreting it wrong) was meant to celebrate the USA and instead it became a criticism of all its fault instead. When I say patriotism, I mean loving one's country (while recognizing the issues that remain) and respecting others viewpoints. With all due respect, you keep bringing up negative social issues in a thread meant to be celebratory. Just an observation.

 

[Buzz Rules]

And you're one of the lucky ones who actually has insurance!

But rah rah! 'murica!

 

[gmi3804]

Well, it seems to becoming one. The thread was (unless I'm interpreting it wrong) was meant to celebrate the USA and instead it became a criticism of all its fault instead. When I say patriotism, I mean loving one's country (while recognizing the issues that remain) and respecting others viewpoints. With all due respect, you keep bringing up negative social issues in a thread meant to be celebratory. Just an observation.

 

[ShirikiUtundu]

Saying other countries don't have as much opportunities is very vague. Not sure what you meant by it.

More bizarre to pretend that 'opportunity' is an option open to anyone coming to the US ... or even many already here.
The opportunity for who to do what?

 

[Suger Mag]

Where'd you get that info from?

I agree those seem way sus... the numbers I found are much different...

In Finland, the average single worker faced a net average tax rate of 31.1% in 2022, compared with the OECD average of 24.6%. In other words, in Finland the take-home pay of an average single worker, after tax and benefits, was 68.9% of their gross wage, compared with the OECD average of 75.4%.

https://www.oecd.org/tax/tax-policy/taxing-wages-finland.pdf

Taxes are not a bad thing if you feel like you are getting value on your investment. Education, health care are excellent returns in my opinion for paying taxes

 

[CdnCarrie]

More bizarre to pretend that 'opportunity' is an option open to anyone coming to the US ... or even many already here.
The opportunity for who to do what?

I'm sure it's an uphill battle for many especially refugees. They are very brave!