neatokimmo
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- Jul 1, 2006
I have 212k miles on my odyssey and my mechanic says it will go until 350 no problem. It’s pretty old though, a 2003. If you have the opportunity to purchase leather, I would. My seats still look great.
Both my Odysseys have been terrible in snow. It may be the tires but I don't really know. I just know my dd's Civic does better than the Odyssey. My dh's truck is awesome.
It is the tires. The Odyssey, and pretty much every nose heavy front wheel drive vehicle, will do just fine in snow with proper tires on it. Subaru has done a brilliant marketing strategy in making people think they need the AWD, plus all the plastic cladding they glue onto their cars. Reality is they don't. It's been tested over and over by numerous car magazines, tire companies, etc... Even a RWD car with good snow tires will do quite well on your normal snow covered road. Yes, if you literally live on the side of a mountain and have to climb a steep grade covered in thick snow and ice, you'll want a full time 4WD and probably still want snow tires. But if you're driving on normal suburban roads and highways, you don't.
I don't do a ton of snow in my Odyssey, but I definitely wouldn't say it's terrible. But it seems like at least some of the new models have Snow mode.You just had 3 people tell you that Odysseys are terrible in the snow. I can assure you, it is the van and not the tires. I do not live on the side of a mountain and it only takes a little snow to make it not great. Truthfully, it isn't even great on rainy days with the hills. These are steep hills, but they are little hills not mountains. Everyone I know that has Odysseys says the same thing. I have had snow tires on my van every year. It helps, but I have gotten stuck on more than one occasion.
You just had 3 people tell you that Odysseys are terrible in the snow. I can assure you, it is the van and not the tires. I do not live on the side of a mountain and it only takes a little snow to make it not great. Truthfully, it isn't even great on rainy days with the hills. These are steep hills, but they are little hills not mountains. Everyone I know that has Odysseys says the same thing. I have had snow tires on my van every year. It helps, but I have gotten stuck on more than one occasion.
No point in arguing back and forth, we'll just agree to disagree.
I don’t have a Pacifica, but I love,love,love the look of them. My problem is I’ve owned three Chrysler’s and had nothing but trouble. Big trouble, with them. I would never buy another Chrylser
Honestly not trying to start a fight. I argue with my DH about it too. lol He forgets because he does not drive it as often. He will say the same thing, we just need new tires. Until he is the one driving it and getting caught in the snow and has new tires and still has issues. It just happens to me more often because I drive it all the time. I have just gotten to the point where I do not go out if there is snow. Has worked for me OK because I am not working. If I was working, I would have gotten rid of it long ago like all my working friends did with their Odysseys. I have only heard the complaint about Odysseys, not sure if it really is just this make or just everyone I know has had an Odyssey and not another type of van. Every winter I say we need a new car or we need to move. Because if we lived just 1 mile closer to town I wouldn't have the problem. Odysseys and snow is fine. Odysseys and hills and snow not fine. Have had too many people tell me the same thing to know it is not just the tires or the driver.
Still waiting for the mechanic to call about my Odyssey, but I am thinking now it will be an easyish fix and it will live to see another year and I will be able to put off the what do I get next for a little while. But I do appreciate your input on the Kias. I would probably had not considered them, but I have seen you post several times about them.
It is the tires. The Odyssey, and pretty much every nose heavy front wheel drive vehicle, will do just fine in snow with proper tires on it. Subaru has done a brilliant marketing strategy in making people think they need the AWD, plus all the plastic cladding they glue onto their cars. Reality is they don't. It's been tested over and over by numerous car magazines, tire companies, etc... Even a RWD car with good snow tires will do quite well on your normal snow covered road. Yes, if you literally live on the side of a mountain and have to climb a steep grade covered in thick snow and ice, you'll want a full time 4WD and probably still want snow tires. But if you're driving on normal suburban roads and highways, you don't.
Are videos like this not accurate? I like having the AWD because our public works department doesn't plow, sand, or salt any of the streets in our neighborhood. They may do a little on the major streets but even then it is hit or miss. Of course the problem is the AWD does nothing to improve traction when you are sliding down the hills. I hate putting on tire chains because once you get to the freeway you can't drive very fast with them.
Are videos like this not accurate? I like having the AWD because our public works department doesn't plow, sand, or salt any of the streets in our neighborhood. They may do a little on the major streets but even then it is hit or miss. Of course the problem is the AWD does nothing to improve traction when you are sliding down the hills. I hate putting on tire chains because once you get to the freeway you can't drive very fast with them.
I live in Buffalo and have never driven an AWD vehicle or had snow tires put on my vehicles. One of my husband's uncle's family all drive RWD vehicles year round so they do use snow tires (old Firebirds and Mustangs). We do finally have a 4WD pickup truck but I'm not the daily driver of it. It is nice to have though. I have a 13 year old Town & Country and while he's had his problems, he can do pretty good in the snow with some plain old all season radials and understanding of how a vehicle reacts to a snowy street (I actually really hate the "Traction Control" thing and tend to turn that off). Ice is another animal though of course. So one point for Chrysler, lol. When you drive a car for a really long time you get to know its quirks and you know how the vehicle behaves and what's really a problem and what isn't -- but, when my old buddy finally is ready to be laid to rest, I won't be replacing with another Chrysler. I got generally lucky but most people I know didn't, and even I had to replace a few things that I should not have needed to (3 sets of sway bar links in 5 years for example). I've mostly been looking at the Odyssey but now have a bit of an eye on the Sedona, since I found out they also have a trim package with heated seats (they're my BFF in the winter, never had them before my van but now they're basically not optional for me).
I have been looking at used Kia's and my main beef with the ones I have seen are they are the lower trim lines. Nope, not going to go without me heated seats.
We got the plug-in hybrid Pacifica and love it. We also did it when there was still a $7500 rebate on this, which is now expired. The list price on the hybrid was 46,000? So, we got almost all the extras, full entertainment package, and navigation for $38,500. We get about 34 miles per electric charge free or at 99+ mpg and usually charge it again and do again daily. If we were closer to school, work, ect we would probably be getting 50+ mph overall on the van. We love the entertainment package as kids play chess/checkers alot or just watch movies. It has heated seats, but also has cooling seats which is great in the summer. The seats get really cold on high and usually have to turn back to low even in 100 degree weather. Maintenance has been easy so far and would highly recommend the hybrid. Only drawback may be the expense to replace those batteries when it is due. We had a Honda Odyssey before this and loved it, but did not like the mpg of the Odyssey. This is a better upgrade with alot better options.We are finally in the process of getting a car for our family of 5 (I had posted a while back seeking opinions but my husband put it on hold for a little while). We are looking at a 2018 Pacifica (Touring L trim - lots of features) with 14K miles at a very reasonable price. Everything I read online says it ranks higher or equal to the Honda Odyssey. Everyone I know swears by Honda cars and says I should get one of them. We looked the Pilot but it was just too small. Soooo...my dilemma: there is a 2016 Odyssey with 20K miles I can look at tomorrow (price difference is negligible - 2018 models are too pricey right now) but I like the reviews I see of the Pacifica AND I like the fact that we would have more of a warranty left with it. Problem is I know no one with one. So if you have a Pacifica...do you like it? Have you had any regrets getting it? Have you had any issues with it?
Wow, thank you all. I think I will steer away from the Chrysler. The long term reliability is my concern. Going to look at a Sienna and an Odyssey today.