CARNIVAL VS DCL: The discussion and comparison thread!

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The problem is you are comparing a mass market cruise line to a premium line. It's like comparing a ford escort to a BMW. The Escort will always be cheaper. The question is, do you want to drive an Escort or a BMW?
This is where a good travel adviser can help you make the right decisions.
 
The problem is you are comparing a mass market cruise line to a premium line. It's like comparing a ford escort to a BMW. The Escort will always be cheaper. The question is, do you want to drive an Escort or a BMW?
This is where a good travel adviser can help you make the right decisions.
What didn't you like about your Carnival cruise and what ship was it?
 
What didn't you like about your Carnival cruise and what ship was it?

I've been on 4 Carnival ships, and I'm not saying that I didn't "like" them. But they are a different experience than a Disney cruise. That's why it's important to consult a knowledgeable travel consultant who can provide guidance. I'd hate to see someone purchase any product just because it was less expensive, and then find that they are very unhappy. Better to spend more - when necessary - to get what you want. A travel consultant can qualify them based upon their needs, desires, and budget.
 
I've been on 4 Carnival ships, and I'm not saying that I didn't "like" them. But they are a different experience than a Disney cruise. That's why it's important to consult a knowledgeable travel consultant who can provide guidance. I'd hate to see someone purchase any product just because it was less expensive, and then find that they are very unhappy. Better to spend more - when necessary - to get what you want. A travel consultant can qualify them based upon their needs, desires, and budget.
Gotcha, I'm sorry I misinterpreted what you were saying. I like both Carnival and DCL, but in totally different ways. It's really funny how you can enjoy the same activity but in completely different ways.
 


The problem is you are comparing a mass market cruise line to a premium line. It's like comparing a ford escort to a BMW. The Escort will always be cheaper. The question is, do you want to drive an Escort or a BMW?
This is where a good travel adviser can help you make the right decisions.
I'd choose an Escort. Do you know what it cost to maintain an BMW. Kind of like trying to cruise with dcl each and every time. Not feasible or financially a good choice for most people with middle class incomes.
 
The problem is you are comparing a mass market cruise line to a premium line. It's like comparing a ford escort to a BMW. The Escort will always be cheaper. The question is, do you want to drive an Escort or a BMW?
This is where a good travel adviser can help you make the right decisions.

Don't get me wrong: I love DCL but although they charge premium prices, I really don't see them as premium (like Oceania, Azamara, Cunard, Regent...) at all.

I've recently sailed the Disney Wonder (six months after I sailed the Victory). They are almost the same age and the theming was (very) different BUT although the Wonder was fresh out of dry dock, I did not feel like it was much superior to the Victory.
 
I've been on 4 Carnival ships, and I'm not saying that I didn't "like" them. But they are a different experience than a Disney cruise. That's why it's important to consult a knowledgeable travel consultant who can provide guidance. I'd hate to see someone purchase any product just because it was less expensive, and then find that they are very unhappy. Better to spend more - when necessary - to get what you want. A travel consultant can qualify them based upon their needs, desires, and budget.

If you read the whole critic, I found myself very satisfied. And while the ship was a bit outdated (it's been partially renovated since and will go into dry dock next winter), I prefered the staff, the entertainment and the food on the Carnival ship over DCL. Also, being adults, after three Disney cruises, we are ready to go towards "less kid-friendly themed" cruise lines.

While I believe T.A.s' are very knowledgable sources, I generally spend more than 100 hours getting informations, watching videos and reading reviews about the ships I'm interested in sailing on, comparing them and ranking them. I trust myself in that area.
 


The problem is you are comparing a mass market cruise line to a premium line. It's like comparing a ford escort to a BMW. The Escort will always be cheaper. The question is, do you want to drive an Escort or a BMW?
This is where a good travel adviser can help you make the right decisions.

Walk on by entitled person. Some of us can only afford an Escort. Do you scoff at all of the Ford's in the supermarket parking lot? Or the one's your coworkers drive?
 
This pretty interesting, Carnival is going all out to help the islands we love https://www.facebook.com/JohnHeald/posts/1825489524160267

One big advantage Carnival Corp has is they already have the basic structures for service projects thanks to fathom. While fathom as a cruiseline doesn't exist at the moment, some of the Impact Guides stayed on with the company and have been doing impact projects as excursions when some ships dock in Amber Cove (and I understand they are still working on "fathom 2.0" to see what shape that will take). So it's a little easier for them to get that kind of model up and going.
 
One big advantage Carnival Corp has is they already have the basic structures for service projects thanks to fathom. While fathom as a cruiseline doesn't exist at the moment, some of the Impact Guides stayed on with the company and have been doing impact projects as excursions when some ships dock in Amber Cove (and I understand they are still working on "fathom 2.0" to see what shape that will take). So it's a little easier for them to get that kind of model up and going.
I didn't realize they are working on 2.0, that's cool. They also have the advantage of a bunch of ships down there. I heard also that they or one of the other lines are also docking on some islands for residents to have a place to sleep, eat and shower while they're trying to piece the islands back together. I really love reading about how the community comes together in times of need. That's good stuff.

On a side note @Dug720, we're on the 10/6 Magic cruise out of NYC and return on 10/14. Do you have any suggestions on transportation to the Newark airport? Our plane takes off at 1:40 PM, so we have plenty of time.
 
I didn't realize they are working on 2.0, that's cool. They also have the advantage of a bunch of ships down there. I heard also that they or one of the other lines are also docking on some islands for residents to have a place to sleep, eat and shower while they're trying to piece the islands back together. I really love reading about how the community comes together in times of need. That's good stuff.

On a side note @Dug720, we're on the 10/6 Magic cruise out of NYC and return on 10/14. Do you have any suggestions on transportation to the Newark airport? Our plane takes off at 1:40 PM, so we have plenty of time.

I'm not sure how far along it is, but I know that Tara stayed on staff and is working on 2.0. Or was in April anyway.

I'm partial to the train and Air Train. But SuperShuttle is an option (I don't know what they charge from the cruise port though - I always go to a hotel for pickup if I'm using them). Or Lyft.
 
One big advantage Carnival Corp has is they already have the basic structures for service projects thanks to fathom. While fathom as a cruiseline doesn't exist at the moment, some of the Impact Guides stayed on with the company and have been doing impact projects as excursions when some ships dock in Amber Cove (and I understand they are still working on "fathom 2.0" to see what shape that will take). So it's a little easier for them to get that kind of model up and going.

Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't Fathom a "special" cruise line destined to bring people for cultural exchanges and/or do charity work?
 
But am I right regarding the purpose?

Basically. It was cultural exchange and/or service projects. But what I meant in my post is that because of that experience, they have the format to model it in other places as well as the contacts with groups who do that kind of work within the Carnival Corportation umbrella. Which when combined with the number of ships in the entire fleet under that umbrella makes it far easier for them to get something up and running.
 
Basically. It was cultural exchange and/or service projects. But what I meant in my post is that because of that experience, they have the format to model it in other places as well as the contacts with groups who do that kind of work within the Carnival Corportation umbrella. Which when combined with the number of ships in the entire fleet under that umbrella makes it far easier for them to get something up and running.

("service projects". Thanks, that is one of the terms I was looking for.)

This is great. Hopefully they can make a difference.
 
Just returned from the Wonder in Alaska. Alaska is pretty. I wasn't as wowed by it as most people are. I have seen better scenery in Wyoming and Montana, and then there's Iceland which I was totally blown away by. We had pretty good weather the first sea day it was 80 degrees the rest of cruise was normal Alaska weather cloudy, foggy and rainy. I did not miss having a balcony. Many times it was too overcast to see anything or just too plan cold to sit outside. Also I found the scenery to be pretty redundant. I lived in Lake Tahoe and my parents were outdoor people. We camped and hiked all over the northwest. It wasn't anything remarkable for me. I will say compared to Arizona heat it was a welcome change.

The service was great as usual, and a little overbearing and intrusive as usual. I heard one couple complaining about being chastised by their waiter for not showing up to MDR a couple of nights. Sounds about right. I'm going to admit I get a little tired of talking to them every night.

Food was just OK as usual. The MDR food was hit or miss. The buffet ditto. The pool side food is not edible. This is been my impression every DCL cruise. I don't cruise for the food. I get tired of going to the MDR, but there is no other option unless you want to eat horrible Pizza or burgers. Other people seem to eat it though. We have way too many good pizza and burger places in AZ for me to waste my calorie splurges on that.

The Edge fantastic as always. Really great, great, great counselors on this cruise. I can't say enough about the great job they do....I really can't they are awesome.

I haven't watched a Disney show in maybe 8 cruises, but Frozen was really, really good.

I had a funny exchange with connect at sea. As usual I had all kinds of problems with the internet package. I can surf for an hour and hardly use any mb and then another time I log in and withing 2 minutes I've gone from 200mb to nothing. As usual I go to the desk and complain. They refund my money and reset my mb. I ask if they get lots of complaints and they say yes. I asked it they are going to go to a unlimited plan like Carninval because I've gotten email surveys about it. I'm told maybe.

She then tell me that the reason Carnival can do that is because most of their customers can't afford the internet packages:scared1:, and Disney can't tell people they can't stream or watch movies because they have customers who are willing to spend thousands on internet. I had to laugh at this because I'm sure Carnival sells lots of internet packages, and I'm also sure Carnival customers aren't stupid enough to pay thousands for it....good grief.

One day I sat on a couch on deck 4 by the vacationing planning desk because it was the warmest spot on the ship, and I had a good view. I overheard many people rebooking. A lot of people booked placeholders. You also had husband and wife teams showing up going over cruises with the all the seriousness and scrutiny of buying a new car and some of these cruises cost as much as a new car. It was an interesting couple of hours to say the least...... then there's me telling them to find me the cheapest cruise on the Fantasy next year inside room, and I still walk away feeling like I'm overpaying. I doubt I'll be doing that Fantasy cruise, but it was fun to book it. Of course I've done 16 DCL cruises and most of these people cruise every couple of years, but yes people are willing to drop some serious cash on one cruise. I think I'm going to make it a habit to sit there and eves drop every cruise.

Overall it was great cruise...no complaints except the food, but I complain about that on every Disney cruise.

After 6 or so DCL cruises in a row I am feeling the need for a change. I have the Transatlantic booked for September. I'm not sure what I'll be doing between now and then.
 
cruiser21 - I grew up in South Lake Tahoe! We lived there from 1980-1988 when we moved to the Carson Valley to be closer to my grandparents. Such a small world.

I could afford internet on Carnival but don't need it thanks to T-Mobile and being able to use my plan practically anywhere in the world ;)
 
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