Disneyland Reopening Speculation Superthread

[Lumpy1106]

https://www.politico.com/states/cal...california-based-on-hospital-capacity-1340904That's the best I could find. Nothing is locked down YET, but if you are thinking of getting a haircut, I'd do that now.

 

[SeaDis]

Got it. All these rules are confusing. Lol

I second this! They had already modified the county tiers. Now we are basically scrapping that and going to regions? Will they re-introduce the county tiers after this as a re-opening plan?

And then throw in literally "pages" of exemptions. And I still have no clue what this would mean for DLR. If restaurants switch to takeout only and retail drops to 20% capacity, I think they could keep it going, right? Although doesn't sound like a great time unless you just want some ambiance.

 

[SeaDis]

Is there a chart listing where each region falls as far as this metric? I couldn't watch the press conference.

It says the state released a map with projections. But I haven't seen it yet. It will popup soon, I'm sure.

The state released a map of five regions and their current ICU capacity, as well as projected dates when regions will fall below the 15 percent threshold. The regions are:

• Northern California: Del Norte, Glenn, Humboldt, Lake, Lassen, Mendocino, Modoc, Shasta, Siskiyou, Tehama, Trinity
• Bay Area: Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, Monterey, Napa, San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Clara, Santa Cruz, Solano, Sonoma
• Greater Sacramento: Alpine, Amador, Butte, Colusa, El Dorado, Nevada, Placer, Plumas, Sacramento, Sierra, Sutter, Yolo, Yuba
• San Joaquin Valley: Calaveras, Fresno, Kern, Kings, Madera, Mariposa, Merced, San Benito, San Joaquin, Stanislaus, Tulare, Tuolumne
• Southern California: Imperial, Inyo, Los Angeles, Mono, Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino, San Diego, San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara, Ventura

 

[Disney Dad ADL]

I second this! They had already modified the county tiers. Now we are basically scrapping that and going to regions? Will they re-introduce the county tiers after this as a re-opening plan?

And then throw in literally "pages" of exemptions. And I still have no clue what this would mean for DLR. If restaurants switch to takeout only and retail drops to 20% capacity, I think they could keep it going, right? Although doesn't sound like a great time unless you just want some ambiance.

I think the county tiers are still in effect, but there's nothing higher than purple tier in that system. This regional thing basically calls for stay-at-home orders, basically you can think of it as a tier worse than purple

 

[DLgal]

I give until tomorrow or saturday

It won't happen that fast. It is based on ICU availability which doesn't drastically change day to day. In OC, for example, we are predicted to run out of ICU beds on Dec 18 IF no surge capacity is added, and they are adding it around the entire state.

The entire region needs to dip under 15% of available ICU beds. That has not happened at any time during the pandemic, even when we had more daily cases and hospitalizations back in July.

 

[midnight star]

https://www.politico.com/states/cal...california-based-on-hospital-capacity-1340904That's the best I could find. Nothing is locked down YET, but if you are thinking of getting a haircut, I'd do that now.

Lol I just made a nail appointment for this evening.

I saw a picture on Twitter but couldn’t find it. I saw that Southern California region is LA, Ventura, Santa Barbara, Inyo, San Bernardino, Orange, imperial, riverside, San Diego...I could be missing some though.

 

[midnight star]

I second this! They had already modified the county tiers. Now we are basically scrapping that and going to regions? Will they re-introduce the county tiers after this as a re-opening plan?

And then throw in literally "pages" of exemptions. And I still have no clue what this would mean for DLR. If restaurants switch to takeout only and retail drops to 20% capacity, I think they could keep it going, right? Although doesn't sound like a great time unless you just want some ambiance.

Maybe they can do to-go? That’s technically what they are doing now minus Carthay and the other restaurants

 

[SeaDis]

Here is the visual map. And I continue to read these similar quotes, but I didn't hear it myself and I can't stand to re-watch the video.

"Newsom said the expectation is that the Bay Area will reach that threshold in mid- to late December, and the four other regions in early December, probably this week. "

"None of the regions met the threshold for the new rules as of Thursday afternoon. However, Newsom noted that all regions but the Bay Area are likely to meet the stay-at-home order threshold within a day or two."

Also note once the threshold is met, they have 48 hours to implement. Based on previous actions they have taken, and IF the above quotes are accurate, it sure seems they could announce triggers this weekend, to be implemented Monday/Tuesday time frame for at least some areas.

https://www.timesheraldonline.com/2...a-regions-for-coronavirus-stay-at-home-order/

 

[DLgal]

Maybe they can do to-go? That’s technically what they are doing now minus Carthay and the other restaurants

The problem is where would people eat the food if they shut down outdoor dining?

 

[midnight star]

The problem is where would people eat the food if they shut down outdoor dining?

Oh right forgot about that. Ugh fingers crossed we don’t get to the shutdown point.

 

[DLgal]

I honestly think DTD will just completely shut down if this happens. There would be no point in remaining open.

 

[AZMermaid]

The problem is where would people eat the food if they shut down outdoor dining?

Their hotel room? But if it hits this, it seems like he said hotels would only be for critical travel/workers. So.... that’s out too. It doesn’t sound too good for DTD. The shopping could stay open but if there’s no eating in any meaningful way, it seems unlikely since it’s much more of a specialized destination than your typical outdoor mall.

 

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[Lumpy1106]

I second this! They had already modified the county tiers. Now we are basically scrapping that and going to regions? Will they re-introduce the county tiers after this as a re-opening plan?

And then throw in literally "pages" of exemptions. And I still have no clue what this would mean for DLR. If restaurants switch to takeout only and retail drops to 20% capacity, I think they could keep it going, right? Although doesn't sound like a great time unless you just want some ambiance.

LA County (except Pasadena) already is shut down. It is bleak - 2nd Street in Long Beach is usually tough to find a parking space - now a total ghost town. Food has to be to-go, as in take it home, not just outside. I don't see how DtD could remain open.

 

[lazerprincess]

The problem is where would people eat the food if they shut down outdoor dining?

at home lol

 

[TikiTikiFan]

Hang in there CA folks- this all sounds so tough. My county (I’m in CO) has recently added quite a few restrictions but nothing quite to the extent happening there.

I cannot wait until the day comes when Disneyland can finally open. Hard to believe just two months ago how hopeful we were for reopening news and now it looks like Downtown Disney cannot even be open.

 

[DLgal]

Hang in there CA folks- this all sounds so tough. My county (I’m in CO) has recently added quite a few restrictions but nothing quite to the extent happening there.

I cannot wait until the day comes when Disneyland can finally open. Hard to believe just two months ago how hopeful we were for reopening news and now it looks like Downtown Disney cannot even be open.

Newsom said, and I quote, "this will be the last shutdown."

He better not be yanking our chains.

 

[Lumpy1106]

[Mod edit: Deleted comment about COVID vaccine in CA]

I hope you are right, but the first batch he talked about today would only vaccinate 0.5% of the population. Every little bit helps, but that really is just a little bit.

 

[Disney Dad ADL]

[Mod edit: Deleted post about the new CA Regional Stay At Home Order metrics]

What's my region's ICU capacity
Here is the current status of ICU capacity for each of the five regions, according to the California Department of Public Health:
Northern California: 18.6% ICU capacity

• The order is not in effect.
• The region includes these counties: Del Norte, Glenn, Humboldt, Lake, Lassen, Mendocino, Modoc, Shasta, Siskiyou, Tehama, Trinity

Bay Area: 25.4% ICU capacity

• The order is not in effect.
• The region includes these counties: Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, Monterey, Napa, San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Clara, Santa Cruz, Solano, Sonoma

Greater Sacramento: 22% ICU capacity

• The order is not in effect.
• The region includes these counties: Alpine, Amador, Butte, Colusa, El Dorado, Nevada, Placer, Plumas, Sacramento, Sierra, Sutter, Yolo, Yuba

San Joaquin Valley: 19.7% ICU capacity

• The order is not in effect.
• The region includes these counties: Calaveras, Fresno, Kern, Kings, Madera, Mariposa, Merced, San Benito, San Joaquin, Stanislaus, Tulare, Tuolumne

Southern California: 20.6% ICU capacity

• The order is not in effect.
• The region includes these counties: Imperial, Inyo, Los Angeles, Mono, Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino, San Diego, San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara, Ventura

https://www.desertsun.com/story/new...ifornias-stay-home-order-covid-19/3779962001/

 

[DLgal]

[Mod edit: Deleted comment referring to the CA governor and the COVID vaccine]

It's still a bold claim to make. He really doesn't know. A few weeks ago, he claimed that his tier system was "working as expected." We have all seen how that turned out.

A few weeks ago, we all thought Orange County would be in the Orange tier by now. Nothing about this situation has been predictable.