it's really too early to tell what Disney will do. They may even get rid of the restrictions imposed since 2019 if sales figures aren't as favorable. VDH and Poly2 will be a litmus test for Disney's restriction experiment. I haven't see anything to indicate Disney will restrict direct points to respective home resorts. That would be DVC suicide IMO.
Correct. That would not benefit DVC to do that.
As long as Disney doesn't start proliferating DVC resorts in Anaheim, I don't think the resale restrictions will matter much at VDH. And it might be 5-7 years until you start seeing resale contracts showing up in the market. That's also not accounting for a right sized contract in your UY. Pickings will be slim, hence value will remain high IMO.
well yeah. there's always that. but shoppers won't be able to be picky and will haveto buy whatever contracts that may become available. Still. Most on these boards probably don't have the patience to wait that long, when direct points will be on sale anytime now. I'm guessing most existing owners looking to buy VDH will do so in the next year.
The global pandemic skews normal sales trends. But overall, I think RR is doing just fine, even with the restrictions. There's nothing to indicate that Disney will reverse the restrictions. The only sticking point is there aren't any good examples after Riviera to show that the restrictions are doing good or bad for Disney. VDH will be a poor example because it's in Anaheim and the restrictions won't matter as much. Poly2 can be part of the existing association. So realistically, Riviera might be the only example of a restricted resort for a long time.
Agreed, then it wouldn't be much different than a regular timeshare & that is mainly (imo) that makes DVC special and much more valuable.
Yea, true having the option vs not having any option definitely has value.
True, makes sense, i just like to see what i'm paying for exactly, compared to resale. I want to always compare (for instance, blue card perks aren't enough for me to spend $50 more pp)
Yea, I do believe there will be resale contracts available next year... now whether they pass rofr at any price is a different story. lol
Most people aren't like you, or us. They see their membership more simplistically. A one time purchase, direct from Disney, with zero hassles, and flexibility. Perks are just extra that are always in flux. For us, it may sound misinformed. But to them, there really isn't anything to think about But like them, I once too was a direct purchaser without knowing anything about the resale market. I was blinded by the pixie dust and promo videos. I get it.
The first 4 years of Riviera on the resale market showed that prices remained high. Most people selling that early after buying direct were probably distressed, and couldn't afford to sell below a certain point because they were underwater. I assume the same will be true for VDH. But more so, because VDH will retain it's value more than Riviera for all the reasons already mentioned.
Yea i get it too, but if someone needs out, it isn't uncommon to take a loss.
People said the same thing about Riviera. "It will be years before there are resale contracts" In reality, it was weeks or months. Same thing will happen here.
I don't know what the situation is like now, but before VDH, guides were telling people that there is a line out the door of people on the waitlist to buy VGC direct at $315pp. That kinda tells you how a lot of people view DVC direct membership.
perhaps. and I never said it WOULDN'T happen. My point was more about VDH resale value. Having similar resale value as Riviera is a stretch IMO, just by the sheer lack of options in Anaheim. In Orlando, there are plenty more options than just Riviera.
Does the point chart affect how you split it up at all.? (Like why not 3x 50), or is it just a matter of not needing to pay the extra closing costs?
Good question. Probably closing costs but I am curious to see the points chart. These VDH points are likely to out live me and my wife. Will pass on to the kids if they want them. And then they can keep or sell some off. And if they don’t want them, then we will sell off. If it just becomes my wife and I going, then we’d likely keep 75 VDH and 40 BLT. Alternate every other year between DL and WDW. DL is our first choice but my wife loves having the BLT theme park view with walking access to Magic Kingdom. And at a 10-15 minute walk it almost feels like being at Disneyland.
