neurosx1983
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- Nov 16, 2019
Interesting that vault is now saying on their website that they don’t recommend using the service if the flight is on Tuesday or Wednesday because of weekend turnaround times…
You have to keep in mind that Vault pivoted to providing COVID testing. They're a startup that was focused on something entirely different, and are going an opportunistic route.
Scaling is a huge issue for any testing operation, but especially for an operation that wasn't primarily focused on testing protocols to start with.
I give you how their website still describes itself in a Google result. (For those that know HTML/webdev, this is straight out of the metadata they set for themselves.)
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Their Series A funding in March, before things went weird, they described themselves as offering "identification and treatment services for men to improve their sexual, physical, and cognitive performance, including testosterone replacement therapy, erectile and ejaculatory function, fat loss, muscle and endurance building, and prevention treatments for mental decline, enabling men to a personalized approach to healthcare and boost their performance."
Which is to say: The timing issues of this fast expansion surprises no one who knew about this.
And even if Hawaiian did, what are the terms of the other 760 deals they've signed, likely assuming that they could easily scale up because unemployment, not taking into account that actual test processing takes fairly specific skill sets.The other thing that I’d like to know is how does their deal with Hawaiian Airlines actually work? Did Hawaiian pay vault some extra money to ensure the customers get their results sooner? We plan on staying at four seasons on the big Island for the first part of our trip in December and they actually have their own expedited service with vault. But I don’t know what that actually means anymore.
Is the ID NOW test a confirmed NAAT test making it usable for the safe traveler program?Interesting development with our Walgreens rapid (POC/ID NOW) test. We took the test this morning and hadn't heard anything after 12 hours. We called the PWN Health service center and the agent said my results WERE ready and they didn't know why I hadn't received them. He sent me a link immediately with the negative results. If you had the rapid test at Walgreens and haven't heard anything after 12 hours you might want to call (315-401-7865).
The other thing that I’d like to know is how does their deal with Hawaiian Airlines actually work? Did Hawaiian pay vault some extra money to ensure the customers get their results sooner? We plan on staying at four seasons on the big Island for the first part of our trip in December and they actually have their own expedited service with vault. But I don’t know what that actually means anymore.
Both the PCR (72 hr) and ID NOW (24 hr) test were confirmed as usable for the Hawaii safe traveler program. I see that it doesn't specifically list that on the safe traveler program website anymore. However, the FAQs on the Walgreens site say "The Rapid Point-of-Care (POC) Test (ID NOW) and RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel provided by Walgreens are nucleic acid amplification tests (NAAT). Both types are approved by the state of Hawaii, however the turnaround results time may vary."Is the ID NOW test a confirmed NAAT test making it usable for the safe traveler program?
That’s great, thank youBoth the PCR (72 hr) and ID NOW (24 hr) test were confirmed as usable for the Hawaii safe traveler program. I see that it doesn't specifically list that on the safe traveler program website anymore. However, the FAQs on the Walgreens site say "The Rapid Point-of-Care (POC) Test (ID NOW) and RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel provided by Walgreens are nucleic acid amplification tests (NAAT). Both types are approved by the state of Hawaii, however the turnaround results time may vary."
Yes. We arrived at HNL with the Walgreens ID NOW test results in hand this afternoon. We uploaded them yesterday. No line at all at the Ko Olina arrival/quarantine exemption desk at HNL. Cleared in 30 seconds.Is the ID NOW test a confirmed NAAT test making it usable for the safe traveler program?
Thank you for letting me know. We don't actually have a rural route address, but our town of 11,000 people is hours from a rapid testing location. I have a feeling that unless we suddenly get one here in our town, this trip will have to be cancelled. My husband and I just aren't comfortable with white knuckling it until the last second to know whether we can get on the plane or not. We aren't ready to cancel yet, but will probably wait until about 2 weeks after Thanksgiving and decide then (or have it decided for us if Hawaii closes to tourists again).
Thanks.As much as we were looking forward to spending Christmas looking at the Aulani sunset, the anxiety of getting a COVID test back in time was just too last-second for the type of traveler that I am so we have unfortunately decided to cancel. We will go back when things settle down and some sense of 'normal' returns. The islands will always be there, I guess!
Part of the problem with testing was that we decided that going to an urgent care was out because of the risk of exposure to actually sick people and we didn't want our son to get a swab. Hearing stories of Vault dropping the ball became the deal breaker. Anyway we will try our luck with WDW!
Hoping you all that DO end up going to HI have a marvelous time!
Totally understand the annoyance and stress of this COVID vaccine testing for Hawaii. We’re still trying to figure out the best strategy for our Aulani trip in Jan. That said, you might want to consider that Hawaii at this point is much safer than Florida, where the risk of infection and number of cases Is considerably higher.As much as we were looking forward to spending Christmas looking at the Aulani sunset, the anxiety of getting a COVID test back in time was just too last-second for the type of traveler that I am so we have unfortunately decided to cancel. We will go back when things settle down and some sense of 'normal' returns. The islands will always be there, I guess!
Part of the problem with testing was that we decided that going to an urgent care was out because of the risk of exposure to actually sick people and we didn't want our son to get a swab. Hearing stories of Vault dropping the ball became the deal breaker. Anyway we will try our luck with WDW!
Hoping you all that DO end up going to HI have a marvelous time!
Totally understand the annoyance and stress of this COVID vaccine testing for Hawaii. We’re still trying to figure out the best strategy for our Aulani trip in Jan. That said, you might want to consider that Hawaii at this point is much safer than Florida, where the risk of infection and number of cases Is considerably higher.
Good point. We’re in LA , and our Hawaii flight is about the same as the one to Orlando. We flew this summer to WDW, and felt pretty safe...hopefully we’ll feel the same on the flight to Honolulu in January.I would also say that depending on where you are coming from it is easier to minimize exposure in travel going towards florida. Especially if you drive.