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Divorce likely is the announcement, but I'm very surprised they filed today. Divorce filings are public record so they had to know the minute they filed it would be news, with all the hype about the announcement, they wouldn't wait one more day and file tomorrow?
I wondered the same thing....why not just wait until the following day?
The crooked houses are very cute, but SO not worth $3K and up!
I thought the houses were cute on the outside but seemed very small and slightly dangerous with the kids slamming doors and stuff running in and out. I'm sure they calmed down after the "newness" wore off but still. And the insides, is it just plywood?? Maybe that's why they put the stickers up inside to "decorate" a little bit? The Crooked House guys really seemed to have a good time.
Anyone else think its weird that Jon has the phone thing in his ear the entire time? As if he cant be away from the phone for a second....
Agreed. I personally cannot stand those things - no one, except maybe the President who has people who take his calls, is that important that you can't take a break...
Jon and I had a rough day - its almost like a "shell game"
Jon has a lot of anger towards me, and wont talk to me, he wont hold a discussion with me, I want to talk ... I see a window in his world. I dont know if he realizes the repurcussions of his descions down the road...
ok that's sad.
Totally sad. I could have spoken a lot of the words Kate did last night about my own relationship...I pretty much cried through the entire episdoe (and the season premire they showed before)...
The flashbacks are sad. It's so clear that he hates the show. And it's been clear for a long time.
Yeah and he is going to get a job
I don't think he "hates" the show. I think he's upset for not speaking up and just going along with things for so long. He said something about that in the interview part, about how he's standing up now and getting a backbone or something like that. I think that's where the tension and such is coming from.
I'm not so sure about the job offer....
He's excited....***!! I can't believe he just said that!
I thought that was an odd word to use describing their situation.
Are they seriously going to continue filming while these poor children have to go through the agony of their parents' divorce???
I would think if you're moving mommy or daddy in and out constantly and you cut off every other person they're used to seeing at the same time, that could be even more tramatic for them. For the time being, trying to keep things as "normal" as possible with the cameras there is probably for the best - phase them out slowly over time.
Organic Fruit, Organic Milk, Organic Juice, Organic Applesauce..... Yeah, we get the point!
Yes....everything's organic. That was clear
I'm sorry. I know there is all kinds of serious stuff going on. But why in the world do they have bibs on 5 year olds in a restaurant????
I laughed when I saw that last night and knew it's be a "hot topic" this morning!
All I can say is....
"The show must go on"
What kind of idiotic statement that is--way to go Kate, when your kids get older they'll love hearing that.
I think Kate was asked a question because (if I remember right) she said something like "how will the show go on? "the show must go on"?" I don't think she was making a statement so much as trying to throw the phrase in there while answering the question.
I'm glad I didn't watch. And I'm officially done. I'll not be around for thread #5.
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Kate----I, me, my kids
Jon----us, we, our kids
I say the same things - "my kids, my room" whatever...I guess that didn't really stand out to me.
I totally agree. Jon seemed like he couldn't wait to jump out of that chair and "get on with his life." --- and the money. I notice he said he will probably still do the show. If it wasn't so sad, I would have laughed when he said he might get a job offer.
Yes he really seemed disconnected or something like that....maybe wasn't sure what to say because he didn't know what Kate was going to say in her interview??? I think there must be a contract involved to some extent that they cannot get out of if Jon's continuing to do the show. I thought it was weird that he said he might get a job offer - is something already in the works???
I think he was excited about not just having the identity of Jon of Jon and Kate plus 8.
Parents in general "loose" their identity. I'm no longer me, I'm Corbin's mom or Carter's mom and I'm 100% ok with that! Jon will always be Jon and Kate Plus 8 - it will be around forever in cyberspace and with the books and people aren't just going to forget. You can't just walk away from something like that IMO.
Jon's a big boy, he can man up and tell Kate no if he wants to. He quit his job to do the show. Why is everyone pinning this whole thing on Kate? They are both responsible for their decisions.
I think Jon said last night that he was trying to more stand up for himself and speak his mind and that's where the problems were stemming from - because he'd been so quiet for so long.
I agree too - I don't think anyone can "pin" this on one person at this point. Based on what was shown just last night, I would totally put it on Jon 120%. Because I'm a bit more "knowledgable" (thanks to the DIS!!) than the adverage viewer, I think it's more split than that but I only know what's reported and what's shown by TLC at this point.
I'm honestly surprised Kate filed, I can't help but wonder what "activities" she means. Is there any advantage to be the one to actually file for the divorce? Does who files matter at all for anything?
I didn't like how Jon said he let Kate rule the roost, but now he is standing up on his own two feet and is proud of himself. If he passively let her rule roost for 8 or 9 years, how is she supposed to know that all of sudden he doesn't want that? Doesn't sound like he talked to her about it, sounds like he just decided to be a jerk one day. Yes, I know Kate was controlling, ect, ect, but it didn't seem like Jon wanted to step up either. He said himself that he let her rule the roost, maybe because he didn't want to. They have 8 kids, someone had to be "run" things. I'm sorry I don't believe Jon tried at all, if you decide to change the dynamic almost 10 years into marriage you have to talk to the other person and let them know that.
I do think it matters - at least in SC and MI - who files first and how the paperwork is filed.
I agree with your comments regarding Jon.
He said he was excited about this new chapter of his life. He went on to say he's only 32.
I wasn't impressed with his choice of words to describe his situation at all. I don't think his age has anything to do with it and I'm not sure why he felt he needed to keep bringing it up, unless that's an "excuse" to him - like "I'm only 32 and I never got to do xyz.". I think that's crap personally....you chose to have kids, now you need to grow up and deal with that - you can't go back in time and if you could, would you want to??
I think the dogs will stay. This (marital problems) has been going on for months. I think the dogs were bought for protection. Kate has said she "doesn't want to be alone", I think, even though she's not fond of them, she will feel protected and now the entire country knows that there are 2 German Shepards on the premises & in the house. Also, if the kids love the dogs (and obviously they do), I think they'll stay for that reason. Imagine taking those dogs away from Mady!!!
Now they need to do an episode like they did on the Real Housewives of New Jersey and show how they're training the dogs to protect.
I agree. Jon reminds me so much of my Ex-H....towards the end, it was honestly like having a 3rd child. We we're very young too, so I heard all the same excuses..."I'm only 32" ya ya ya...there are plenty of responsible parents at that age...heck I'm only 29 and have a 12 year old.
Totally agree!!
The issue of the house placement tonight was another prime example. Kate's choice may very well have been a better one, but the way that she went about it was totally wrong. Jon had spent time over a couple of months preparing the ground for the playhouses and Kate didn't even bother to go look at the location herself. The very day that the truck arrives, Kate suddenly cares, decides Jon's picked a bad spot, and then undermines him with the installation crew and announces where she wants them. Jon is left to quip "It looks like I've just made a campground!"
I don't think Jon spent months preparing a space for the houses - it didn't appear that way when he was clearing the land at least. It also didn't seem like they'd talked about it. IMO, they should have already had the land cleared before the trucks even got there - how rude to expect others to wait on you to get something done that should have prior to their arrival.
I *think* that neither have been together in so long that they probably texted each other or something and no one really knew where the other one was talking about. I agree that the houses were probably safer up by their house with the kids still being small.
There's is absolutely no reason (other than money) for them to air their dirty laundry and announce their pending divorce on tv
I think it's another darned if you do/don't topic. Had they just parted ways, people would have continued to speculate and as it's been pointed out, the legal documents are public record so it would have come out eventually. I think, just my opinion, that when you have a "reality" show, it should be addressed - maybe not the way it was last night, but in some fashion.
I didnt' hear them say it was a Mother's Day brunch. Jon did say they were going to a fancy dress up brunch but I don't recall it being Mother's Day?
No I don't think anyone actually said anything, it just popped up on the bottom of the screen.
Had they not made an official announcement at all, there would've been posters (maybe not on DIS) complaining that it's all a front, the episodes aren't even real, they aren't together anymore, etc etc.
They defiantely needed to make an announcement, maybe the show wasn't the right way to go about it....a press release from both sides would've been better.
Agreed!
ok....I'm done now...I'm not going to watch or comment any more on the lives of those poor children.
Someone else needs to start part 5 because it won't be me....
Stupid Jon and Kate for ruining what used to be a nice thread to hang out in....
Aww - you have to at least come back and post cute puppy pictures every now and again!
I've started thread 5 (obviously) in case anyone wants to continue to discuss.
I'm sorry....
Now I suspect the kids will rarely see him. If you watched the episode last night he said he was "excited about his new life" and that he already hasn't been around much for the last few months to "prepare the kids" for how things will be in the future. I predict he will be too busy partying to have much time for his kids.
I kind of got that vibe too....
I wonder, on an average day (if there ever is such a thing
), how much time Jon or/and Kate spend managing their household on their own, without help.
That would be an interesting question to know the answer to! I don't know that we ever will.
