Las Vegas Shooting

[HarperLeigh]

In a civil suit one can sue the estate of the deceased and the absence of a criminal conviction is hardly an issue.

I thought that OJ settled in Florida because they couldn't take his house to pay for the award. However, it may be different the "defendant" is dead and there's nobody living in any property.

OJ is in Vegas.

 

[wonder whisper]

And this case has yet another new angle. This just came out from NBC:

Investigators Looking for Mystery Woman Seen With Vegas Shooter

Investigators are trying to identify a mystery woman seen with Stephen Paddock in the days before the Las Vegas massacre, several law enforcement officials told NBC News. They don't know if she has any connection to the attack, but they would like to speak with her as they build a timeline of Paddock's last days, the officials said.

Separately, Marilou Danely's attorney read a statement from her in which -- not surprisingly -- she claimed to have no knowledge whatsoever of her boyfriend's plans and was "devastated" by the deaths and injuries that occurred. She also said "I knew Stephen Paddock as a kind, caring, quiet man. I loved him and hoped to have a quiet future with him."

 

[lifesavacation]

And this case has yet another new angle. This just came out from NBC:

Investigators Looking for Mystery Woman Seen With Vegas Shooter

Investigators are trying to identify a mystery woman seen with Stephen Paddock in the days before the Las Vegas massacre, several law enforcement officials told NBC News. They don't know if she has any connection to the attack, but they would like to speak with her as they build a timeline of Paddock's last days, the officials said.

Separately, Marilou Danely's attorney read a statement from her in which -- not surprisingly -- she claimed to have no knowledge whatsoever of her boyfriend's plans and was "devastated" by the deaths and injuries that occurred. She also said "I knew Stephen Paddock as a kind, caring, quiet man. I loved him and hoped to have a quiet future with him."

Could have been an escort or prostitute.

 

[Magpie]

I was frequently targeted for extra questioning prior to 9/11 when I traveled overseas. I used to joke that they apparently thought I was a designer wearing drug mule and submitted to the indignity with no questions and little sarcasm ( You have to know when to fold).
I was perfectly fine post 9/11 when ALL were subjected to the same treatment and still are; true equality is a good thing.

I've simplified my life whilst air traveling- no sharp implements of any sort...just buy certain grooming tools on the other end and have done. Undoubtedly they will be sharper than my home gear.

I like to knit, so a small pair of disposable scissors is a really nice thing to have. I try not to carry anything I can't afford to lose (including leaving my really nice knitting needles at home, and just taking the old battered ones that I don't love), and I use a checklist when packing so I always know exactly what's in my bags.

I watch a lot of Border Security, so I like to think I have a decent idea of what's happening and why.

 

[bcla]

OJ is in Vegas.

He was settled in Florida before he went to prison.

 

[AnnaFloridaLover]

You're assuming there is any money left. He was a high roller gambler. I wouldn't be surprised to hear he was broke due to gambling.

That's my unproven theory.

 

[mefordis]

Is that normally done?

I believe it works like this: If he wasn't married, his assets don't seamlessly get passed to a spouse. When the estate is being settled creditors have 90 days (I believe) to file a claim agains the estate. He committed mass murder and a whole slew of other crimes so I'm guessing the state of Nevada at least will freeze his assets.

 

[mefordis]

You're assuming there is any money left. He was a high roller gambler. I wouldn't be surprised to hear he was broke due to gambling.

I heard that he wasn't a high roller at all but played video poker. High rollers play table games. He did like to gamble and did earn comps but I don't see him as a high roller, from what I've read in the news.

 

[HarperLeigh]

I believe it works like this: If he wasn't married, his assets don't seamlessly get passed to a spouse. When the estate is being settled creditors have 90 days (I believe) to file a claim agains the estate. He committed mass murder and a whole slew of other crimes so I'm guessing the state of Nevada at least will freeze his assets.

Other than mass murder, which is obviously horrifying on its own, what are the "slew of other crimes"?

 

[HarperLeigh]

I heard that he wasn't a high roller at all but played video poker. High rollers play table games. He did like to gamble and did earn comps but I don't see him as a high roller, from what I've read in the news.

Wagering tens of thousands of dollars at one sitting is a high roller.

 

[msjprincess]

I heard that he wasn't a high roller at all but played video poker. High rollers play table games. He did like to gamble and did earn comps but I don't see him as a high roller, from what I've read in the news.

The stories I've read said he played $10K a day and sometimes up to $30K a day, His brother said he like to play video poker and go on cruises. I'm guessing there is a lot his brother didn't know about him.


http://www.newsweek.com/paddock-gambling-las-vegas-shooter-676516

 

[Gumbo4x4]

That's amazing. My husband has had to hand over at least 5 Swiss army knives to airport security because he cannot for the life of him remember that he's not allowed one or forgets he's carrying it. My poor father had to surrender his (again he forgot) on a China trip once. He was devastated because my brother had personally engraved it for him. Closest I've even seen my father cry. I wasn't about to argue with those guys though. He also forgot he had a water bottle in his carryon. It was quite the drama and left my old father shaking for the rest of the day.

Past tense. I haven't carried one on a plane post 9/11.

 

[ELKA]

A private business can do (almost) what they want. If the grocery store says "we have to search you for you to enter the store", they can. I just don't think it's a practical solution.

In your other post you mentioned a library, just remembered in 2010, when I was looking up something at the Fifth Avenue Public Library in NYC, you go through a metal detector and they search your bag. Well, if they don't want to get sued because another customer decides to kill people, then they will search their customers.

 

[TipsyTraveler]

Oh. Sounds like you ran into some EU rule. You probably wouldn't have the same issue once they leave the EU.

Not some EU rule. I would've run into the same problem in Boston if the cashier in Tokyo hadn't been prudent enough to warn us NOT to buy the bottle of duty free whisky in the airport if we had any transfers before reaching our final destination. Basically, we would've arrived at Logan (from Tokyo) with a liter of Suntory in our carry-on and the rest of our luggage already checked. We had to change terminals to catch our connecting flight to Baltimore, meaning we would've had to go through security again with a larger-than-3oz bottle of liquid, meaning it would've gone straight into the trash.

Kudos to the Narita cashier who spared me a wasted $80 bottle of whisky and never ending bitterness!

 

[Gumbo4x4]

I have seen Disney ding several people with pocket knives, and they will follow you to make sure you just jump to another line

Disney didn't even check for such stuff when I was last there - 2012.

 

[wenrob]

I heard that he wasn't a high roller at all but played video poker. High rollers play table games. He did like to gamble and did earn comps but I don't see him as a high roller, from what I've read in the news.

There are High Roller Slot/Video machine players. Some casinos even have separate rooms for them. If you’re betting tens of thousands of dollars you’re a high roller. We’ll take your money no matter what form you choose to play.

 

[mefordis]

Other than mass murder, which is obviously horrifying on its own, what are the "slew of other crimes"?

Are you serious? You think 1st degree premeditated murder on a mass scale was his only crime? I"m not a lawyer but I'm certain there are more laws he broke in the process of killing 50+ people and injuring 500+. If he were alive I'm guessing there would be charges for shooting out the hotel window, I'm sure there would be some firearms charges there (even if his firearms were all legally obtained (doubtful), 1st degree murder, 1st degree assault, I'm sure there are more.

 

[wonder whisper]

Is that normally done?

No, and many people here clearly have no knowledge of estate and trust law. If Paddock did proper estate planning, it will be difficult if not impossible for anyone to stop his assets from being be transferred to his designated heirs (if he was really smart, he had a trust written up with CA domicle - because there is no estate tax in CA.).

The bigger question in this area is how many ambulance chasers are going to try to sell their services to victims and their families and file lawsuits against every possible target (The Mandalay Bay, every entity involved in putting on the concert, the manufacturers of the glass in the hotel windows. etc., etc.)

 

[bcla]

Not some EU rule. I would've run into the same problem in Boston if the cashier in Tokyo hadn't been prudent enough to warn us NOT to buy the bottle of duty free whisky in the airport if we had any transfers before reaching our final destination. Basically, we would've arrived at Logan (from Tokyo) with a liter of Suntory in our carry-on and the rest of our luggage already checked. We had to change terminals to catch our connecting flight to Baltimore, meaning we would've had to go through security again with a larger-than-3oz bottle of liquid, meaning it would've gone straight into the trash.

Kudos to the Narita cashier who spared me a wasted $80 bottle of whisky and never ending bitterness!

Well - my understanding is that it's not allowed at all if one is entering the EU and then transferring to another EU flight. Apparently they confiscate at customs.

The issue in the US is with the liquid requirement for carry on. US CBP doesn't care as long as you're under the limit. The solution would be to place it in checked-in baggage before rechecking the baggage for the connecting flight. I'm not sure if there's a charge though. I've seen the recheck counter before but never had to use it myself. I'm not sure if there's an additional baggage charge. I thought that depending on whether or not baggage was included with an earlier flight, it might be free.

 

[mefordis]

No, and many people here clearly have no knowledge of estate and trust law. If Paddock did proper estate planning, it will be difficult if not impossible for anyone to stop his assets from being be transferred to his designated heirs (if he was really smart, he had a trust written up with CA domicle - because there is no estate tax in CA.).

The bigger question in this area is how many ambulance chasers are going to try to sell their services to victims and their families and file lawsuits against every possible target (The Mandalay Bay, every entity involved in putting on the concert, the manufacturers of the glass in the hotel windows. etc., etc.)

Actually, I was only speculating. What you say makes sense. It does seem like the estate would, in fact be untouchable by the victims and go to whomever he left it because the perpetrator is dead and cannot be tried, so no conviction or civil suits.