Toy Story Lot shuttle instead of ART?

[Jason2015]

So kind of like a grocery store, they put stuff out there to BUY. But you still want to take something for free and eat it.

Even though they charge people to use the lot, your ok with it as long as they don't put a turnstile on the sidewalk?

If the company is okay with the customer taking an item whether it’s a good or a service it isn’t theft. Are the sample stands at Costco theft? In this case Disney doesn’t seem to mind giving a ride to people who aren’t using their parking lots, thus Disney is choosing to offer a free service to all. Now, let’s say Disney gave a ticket to people parking in their lots that allowed access to the shuttle and a person entered the rear doors without said ticket then you’d have theft of service. Yet, it seems the money paid to park in the lot is just for that-to park in the lot. Another way to look at it is that if a customer choose to park in the lot and walk to the park, never using the shuttle, are they granted a discount-thus making the shuttle a paid service?

 

[cmwade77]

So kind of like a grocery store, they put stuff out there to BUY. But you still want to take something for free and eat it.

Even though they charge people to use the lot, your ok with it as long as they don't put a turnstile on the sidewalk?

Personally, we have parking on our passes, so this is not an issue, but here is the thing, the shuttles are not there just for those parking in Toy Story. I have heard people ask cast members what the best way to get to the convention center from Disneyland is and the cast member said take the Toy Story shuttle and walk across.

You can most definitely walk into the parking lot and take the shuttle, if a cast member said it isn't allowed and you snuck in any way, then that would be stealing, but if you are honest about it and they let you, then why should you worry about it?

It is the same thing as taking the M&F tram or Monorail to get you closer to the other end of Downtown Disney. Or when the hotels had trams, taking the tram to the hotel even though you weren't a hotel guest.

 

[JPTexan82]

If the company is okay with the customer taking an item whether it’s a good or a service it isn’t theft. Are the sample stands at Costco theft? In this case Disney doesn’t seem to mind giving a ride to people who aren’t using their parking lots, thus Disney is choosing to offer a free service to all. Now, let’s say Disney gave a ticket to people parking in their lots that allowed access to the shuttle and a person entered the rear doors without said ticket then you’d have theft of service. Yet, it seems the money paid to park in the lot is just for that-to park in the lot. Another way to look at it is that if a customer choose to park in the lot and walk to the park, never using the shuttle, are they granted a discount-thus making the shuttle a paid service?

No the samples at Costco are not theft, you have someone offering you to take one. That’s has no bearing on this conversation, and taking things out of context.

 

[Niltiac]

No the samples at Costco are not theft, you have someone offering you to take one. That’s has no bearing on this conversation, and taking things out of context.

I think the Costco samples example was meant to draw a comparison to the taking-food-from-grocery-store-without-paying example, and honestly the Costco example is the more in-context of the two. There are no prices on the shuttles, no option to pay for them, no understanding that they need to be paid for, like there is for groceries. Costco expects or hopes that you will spend money at the store in general so they're willing to offer a little perk for free to make the experience more pleasant. I think that's spot on with the shuttles since the vast majority of people using them (regardless of where they parked) are going to the parks to spend money. Disney just wants those people in a good mood so they'll have fun and spend more money. It doesn't seem like Disney cares where those people parked since in the end they're all customers. Now if the buses were over-crowded and the people parking in the lot had to wait an excessive amount of time for the shuttle I might feel differently, but as it stands now Disney seems to be perfectly happy to provide enough buses and drivers to accommodate both groups. If that isn't Disney's intent then they certainly have the means to communicate that in some way (a simple polite sign would do the trick for most people, even without strict enforcement).

 

[sheetz]

I think Disney may even want offsite hotel guests to walk over to take the shuttle due to the scarcity of parking spaces. On very busy days when the lots are full it is much more desirable for those staying at nearby hotels to walk over and catch the shuttle because it saves the parking spaces for guests who are driving in from further away.