WWYD re:kids weight

Maybe I'm off base here, but 70 pounds at 7 years old doesn't sound obese to me.

How tall is she? Did I miss that info somewhere?

Also, it's typical for girls to get a little thicker around the middle a few years before menarch. There are a lot of hormonal,changes going on and a layer of fat plays a role in estrogen storage.

Don't let your obsession with weight become a life long demon for her.
 
I'm going aganist the grain on this thread. I wouldn't do anything as of yet. I'm afraid that she's going to develop a negative body image of herself. Just love her and love her as she is. If her her food is healthy and her snacks are very limited she should be okay. How tall is she. If her weight and height progressing at the same rate she should be fine. If the Dr aren't worried I wouldn't be to worried.
 
If one is eating in a fairly normal and healthy way.... (not gorging on huge portions of pasta and/or heavy foods for supper) A bedtime snack is important.
As a matter of fact, if there are metabolic or blood sugar, or other types of issues, not eating for over 12 hours, like from 6 in the evening til 7 in the morning, is NOT a good thing.
A moderate and hopefully healthy bed-time snack (not a big bowl of ice-cream or bag of chips) can be a GOOD thing.

When I have tried to cut back and kind of diet... I can actually feel my blood sugar drop at the end of the evening... I would not be able to sleep, or sleep well, in that condition.
Even if it is a couple of crackers with peanut butter and maybe a sip of milk... I will have something to eat. Something substantial with protein... ( Not something like fruit which is sugars/frutose/carbs and water.) Try to focus on lower glycemic(sp) food choices.

Please do not force abstainance or try to with-hold when it comes to food.
This is not a good approach.
This kind of strong limits and control can lead to eating disorders.

Listen to those of us who are saying to limit unhealthy/fattening options. Provide plenty of good nutrition, and then watch carefully to determine how your child handles eating, their eating habits.
If the weight does not moderate, I would not hesitate to see a specialist to get a full metabolic workup, followed by other blood/neurological testing for developmental things that can cause an undue appetite and or a desire to remain more sedentary.
 
So...no judgment...
But she might be sneaking food BECAUSE she's hungry, BECAUSE the portions you give her aren't enough to keep up with the calories she burns. Have you tried to let her eat multiple small meals a day? That's what my athlete sister does- she eats small portions as she goes along. So she won't gorge at dinner. It's hard when you're a kid to judge how hungry you are- you just know you're hungry, and you'll speed eat when you are. Comparing her to her siblings really isn't helpful- my metabolism and body type are completely different than my siblings. Sports didn't alter my shape much- for all the weight I lost in my belly, I made up for it in muscle in my legs and butt.

And then there's also the fact that girls grow in height and mature physically earlier than boys. My cousins didn't fill out until their late teens.

No worries.

She really can't be hungry, I mean she eats breakfast-cereal, bagel, pop tarts (yeah I know healthy), oatmeal, muffins, etc.... for school I pack her a good snack and lunch, she comes home and I watch her have a snack, sometimes fruit sometimes not (again I know always not healthy) and if I run out to pick up another kid from somewhere, I come home and find wrappers of what ever. Lately it's been slim jims that I keep on hand for my son as he gets migraines if he doesn't eat often. Then dinner and sometimes a snack at night depending on dinner time. I usually have a ton of fruit, give her the option of what fruit she wants for snack at school (and home).

For instance, if I set a whole watermelon in front of her after she ate a full meal she would eat the whole thing. She already claimed the entire watermelon that is in my fridge.

To clarify, I don't give her 1/4 a cup of pasta when everyone else gets a full cup. She will get less then they get. I make 1 inch meatballs, she gets 2 and my 16 year old tops off at 3 as do I. When she was 2 or 3 she would and could easily eat 2 slices of pizza which was too much so her slice got cut in half so she could still have 2 pieces. I now let her eat 2 pieces and cut her off, she is fine with that. She would eat a bag of carrots if I let her or oodles of edamame, so she does eat a variety of foods and a lot are healthy she just eats too much of all the foods. She is a quick eater, I never have to call her to the table twice, she is done before any of us have taken 2 bites so that is part of the problem. I sometimes serve her last because of that. So the food isn't registering in her mind as quickly as she is eating it.

Timing wise on school days-breakfast at about 7 or so, snack around 10, lunch between 12-1, snack at home just after 3, dinner between 5-7, if I send her to practice before dinner, I make her eat a snack. So it's not like she is just eating breakfast, lunch and dinner. And she like all the kids have 24 access to food in the house. The only time I tell them no is if I am serving a meal with in a very short amount of time.

She is better now, thankfully, she does know her limits with meals. We do water with meals, skim milk at breakfast, soda on occasion-I don't buy it for home.
 


No worries.

She really can't be hungry, I mean she eats breakfast-cereal, bagel, pop tarts (yeah I know healthy), oatmeal, muffins, etc.... for school I pack her a good snack and lunch, she comes home and I watch her have a snack, sometimes fruit sometimes not (again I know always not healthy) and if I run out to pick up another kid from somewhere, I come home and find wrappers of what ever. Lately it's been slim jims that I keep on hand for my son as he gets migraines if he doesn't eat often. Then dinner and sometimes a snack at night depending on dinner time. I usually have a ton of fruit, give her the option of what fruit she wants for snack at school (and home).

For instance, if I set a whole watermelon in front of her after she ate a full meal she would eat the whole thing. She already claimed the entire watermelon that is in my fridge.

To clarify, I don't give her 1/4 a cup of pasta when everyone else gets a full cup. She will get less then they get. I make 1 inch meatballs, she gets 2 and my 16 year old tops off at 3 as do I. When she was 2 or 3 she would and could easily eat 2 slices of pizza which was too much so her slice got cut in half so she could still have 2 pieces. I now let her eat 2 pieces and cut her off, she is fine with that. She would eat a bag of carrots if I let her or oodles of edamame, so she does eat a variety of foods and a lot are healthy she just eats too much of all the foods. She is a quick eater, I never have to call her to the table twice, she is done before any of us have taken 2 bites so that is part of the problem. I sometimes serve her last because of that. So the food isn't registering in her mind as quickly as she is eating it.

Timing wise on school days-breakfast at about 7 or so, snack around 10, lunch between 12-1, snack at home just after 3, dinner between 5-7, if I send her to practice before dinner, I make her eat a snack. So it's not like she is just eating breakfast, lunch and dinner. And she like all the kids have 24 access to food in the house. The only time I tell them no is if I am serving a meal with in a very short amount of time.

She is better now, thankfully, she does know her limits with meals. We do water with meals, skim milk at breakfast, soda on occasion-I don't buy it for home.

I see! Bottomless pit! I was the same way to a certain extent. She'll grow out of it (mostly- I ate a bag of carrots yesterday). But I lost my appetite in my 20s and now the struggle is to find restaurants that do normal servings (aka not American Disneyesque) because I'm conditioned to not leave food on my plate. I don't have any words of advice really...I'd say cut the bread products, but I'm sure your food budget would suffer because it's a filler food.
 
I'm going aganist the grain on this thread. I wouldn't do anything as of yet. I'm afraid that she's going to develop a negative body image of herself. Just love her and love her as she is. If her her food is healthy and her snacks are very limited she should be okay. How tall is she. If her weight and height progressing at the same rate she should be fine. If the Dr aren't worried I wouldn't be to worried.
One in three kids today is overweight, if she's 70 pounds now, the chances of her having a weight problem is pretty high. Belly fat is the most dangerous for adults. Americans eat too much, are too sedentary, and eat too much crap, and clothing manufacturers just keep making bigger sizes. I know many chubby kids, it's pretty rare that they just grow up and out of it. Putting kids on diets is definitely not the answer, lifestyle changes are necessary.
 
No, I would not worry about it at all, and outside of using common sense, nor would I alter her nutrition a ton. She's too young to really know if it's just part of her development or not yet. DW and I are exercise/nutrition nuts and we have 3 kids. My oldest son, who is 13 now, was a bit "pudgy" when he was about that age. We did common sense things...such as make sure he is active in sports, etc... and don't let him eat nothing but junk food. At the same time, we didn't do any kind of extreme health diet either...he's a kid, we're not going to deprive him of things kids like to eat. Balance is the key. Around age 9 or so, he really started to grow. As I said, he's 13 now, and we actually have him on weight gainer shakes and other things to try to help him put weight on. The kid is a bean pole. He's a football player, and plays on the offensive and defensive line. He's only 130lbs, which is actually an improvement because last year he was only 110 at the most.

DD9 is now struggling with the same issues your daughter is. We're not all that worried. We certainly have made a few changes and geared her diet more toward healthy, but nothing extreme. She's very active in sports and we're confident she will slim out some too. Everyone has a different body type to some degree, and that's OK. As long as she isn't overweight/obese when she gets to be full grown, then she'll be what she'll be.

Like I said, use simple common sense...a well balanced diet (I see no reason it can't include some junk food), stay active...and don't worry about it right now.
Completely agree. My 8 year old is 90lbs (however she is tall for her age and always has been). She has a little tummy, but otherwise is just solid.
Her school sends the physical evaluation every year which indicates her BMI is high and she is technically overweight. I just shake my head at it. The doctor is beyond unconcerned with it. She is a very active child. She takes 4 45 minute dance classes from Sept - June, and just requested that I sign her up for cheer this year (which I have). She rarely eats meat (very few types she likes), and would spend her entire day eating fruit and veggies if she could (nothing I had to ever push on her, just always her preference). And drinks? I could offer soda, chocolate milk and water, and she picks water every time.

She has growing to do, and her belly is just storing what she needs as she continues to shoot up. Here she is a couple of weeks ago at her recital:

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FYI: her Musical Theater dance was "Step in Time".
 


One other thing that no one has mentioned: how is her posture? Her weight seems kind of borderline, but the mention of all of the "pudginess" being in her abdominal area rings a bell with me. When I was a kid I was a bit overweight, but I also had horrendous posture, and ended up with a swayed back that made my gut stick out very noticeably. It wasn't until I started dancing that I got that corrected, and though I've never been thin, I *looked* a lot thinner when I learned to carry my body properly. Learning not to slouch isn't going to fix her eating habits, but it certainly will help make sports more enjoyable, and it will make that tummy less protuberant, which will help to prevent teasing.
 
No worries.

She really can't be hungry, I mean she eats breakfast-cereal, bagel, pop tarts (yeah I know healthy), oatmeal, muffins, etc.... for school I pack her a good snack and lunch, she comes home and I watch her have a snack, sometimes fruit sometimes not (again I know always not healthy) and if I run out to pick up another kid from somewhere, I come home and find wrappers of what ever. Lately it's been slim jims that I keep on hand for my son as he gets migraines if he doesn't eat often. Then dinner and sometimes a snack at night depending on dinner time. I usually have a ton of fruit, give her the option of what fruit she wants for snack at school (and home).

For instance, if I set a whole watermelon in front of her after she ate a full meal she would eat the whole thing. She already claimed the entire watermelon that is in my fridge.

To clarify, I don't give her 1/4 a cup of pasta when everyone else gets a full cup. She will get less then they get. I make 1 inch meatballs, she gets 2 and my 16 year old tops off at 3 as do I. When she was 2 or 3 she would and could easily eat 2 slices of pizza which was too much so her slice got cut in half so she could still have 2 pieces. I now let her eat 2 pieces and cut her off, she is fine with that. She would eat a bag of carrots if I let her or oodles of edamame, so she does eat a variety of foods and a lot are healthy she just eats too much of all the foods. She is a quick eater, I never have to call her to the table twice, she is done before any of us have taken 2 bites so that is part of the problem. I sometimes serve her last because of that. So the food isn't registering in her mind as quickly as she is eating it.

Timing wise on school days-breakfast at about 7 or so, snack around 10, lunch between 12-1, snack at home just after 3, dinner between 5-7, if I send her to practice before dinner, I make her eat a snack. So it's not like she is just eating breakfast, lunch and dinner. And she like all the kids have 24 access to food in the house. The only time I tell them no is if I am serving a meal with in a very short amount of time.

She is better now, thankfully, she does know her limits with meals. We do water with meals, skim milk at breakfast, soda on occasion-I don't buy it for home.

For what it's worth, that diet would have my son falling apart. Not saying your daughter has similar issues, it's just that what you described as her typical breakfast really jumped out at me.

It's nothing but carbs (sugar and processed flour) in the morning. Which is exactly the kind of thing that kicks off my son's blood sugar issues and makes him ravenous all day as his pancreas sends him on the worst roller coaster ride you can imagine.

A good start to my son's day would be something like an omelet made with 1 egg, a small handful of any kind of meat (usually leftover from last night's dinner), and grated cheese. Plus, one piece of fruit. Snack would be a cheese stick and an apple. Lunch would be a whole grain ham sandwich, and some veggies with hummus. Second snack is a hardboiled egg. Dinner is a small (pack of playing card sized) piece of meat and as many steamed or roasted veggies as he wants. And garden salad with light dressing. Right before bed, he'd have a small glass of milk, or a yogurt cup. That was more than adequate when he was nine, and when we started feeding him like that he stopped being hungry all the time.

Also, as someone prone to migraines, slim jims can actually be a trigger. They're very high in sodium. Something like hummus or a cheese stick works much better for me.

Good luck figuring all this out! :hug:
 
I couldn't remember how heavy my girls were at that age, so I went back and checked my notes. Both my girls were around 50 lbs (one was 50 (at 48 inches) and one was 51 lbs (and 50 inches)). Not sure how tall your daughter is but that makes a difference too. For what it's worth, both my girls are about "average". They are not overweight, nor underweight. I commend you for being aware of this issue now. It is quite sad what our society is getting to now with more overweight people than healthy weight people. And the overweight isn't the issue, its the lack of health that generally goes along with that, and I'm sure none of us what that or seek that out for ourselves or our kids.

For us personally, we had fallen into a rut, eating a lot of conveniences foods (throw a lasagna or Sheppard pie in the oven, pasta with jarred sauce, etc) and we thought, hey, we are eating healthy, we aren't like our neighbors eating mcdonalds or wendy's several times a week. But due to some health concerns lately with my husband, as a family, we've had to make some changes (unrelated to his weight, he has chronic lyme disease). He is no longer allowed anything processed or with msg, nothing from a package basically, anything with sugar (including most fruits), and very little carbs. It is amazing when we look at our diet now compared to a few months ago, again, when we thought we were "eating healthy". However, we are all feeling better, have more energy etc. even if we were all healthy weights before.

One thing I do see a lot of people commenting on is that their child eats a lot of fruit. Fruit actually can be an issue when eaten too much. It is very high in sugar, and a lot of fruit have quite high calorie counts too (especially given the typical serving sizes). While fruit is important (and fresh fruit is soooo much better than juice, which we don't buy), veggies are a great alternative as they have just as many nutrients with almost no calories. Cucumber slices, raw carrots, snap peas, cherry tomatoes, celery, etc, are all great snacks.

Regardless, it's not a bad time for you to evaluate your diets as a family. Try to cut out as much processed foods as you can (cook real potatoes, not boxed mashed, make your own sauce, not from a jar, etc). Try not to buy treats, snack foods, etc as they will get eaten! And try to cut down on sugar (including fruit). Watch drinkable calories. My kids drink only water, except a glass of milk with dinner. For a treat they squeeze a third of a lemon into their water. It can be hard to make changes. We're all busy. Trust me, I know, both my daughter do competitive sports, and evenings can be rushed, but with proper planning, it can be done. Try to do as much meal prep ahead of time etc.

Staying active is really important. Find out what she likes to do and use that as a starting point. Be active yourself. You are your best role model for your children. Both me and my husband play sports, and the kids are used to being dragged to watch our games. She will thank you one day.

Most importantly, while it may be just a small issue now, it is so important to nip it in the bud now, before it gets out of hand. Kids are developing health issues like high cholesterol and blood pressure, blood sugar issues, etc in their teens and twenties!

So I wouldn't focus on "diets", but just lifestyle changes, and do them as a family. Even if your other children and yourself are health weights, it can only make you healthier! Only make enough for the portion size of meat and healthy grains you want everyone to have, but make tons of veggies. If she's still hungry, she can have more veggies. If there is leftovers, great, save them for a snack for later, or for her lunch the next day.

Best of luck, and what a good mom you are! So many would just look the other way.
 
Unless you dd is sitting down and eating whole bags of chips, I wouldn't worry too much about the food. If she is coming back for thirds at dinner (which is what my dgd was doing), ok then, you may need some portion control but figure out why. Is she eating too fast? Is she not recognizing when she is full? Other than that, if she is eating a moderate amount and reasonably healthy foods, don't sweat it. Limiting one food group is just going to cause issues. Espeically if you don't limit if for the household. DO NOT make this a struggle.

She just needs to be a normal 7 year old and not worry about diets or even life style changes. Just make sure your overall family diet is healthy for all of you with occasional treats.

Amping up the activity is much more important at her age and a heck of a lot easier too.
 
I have to add a huge 'plus another 1" to some of what Magpie posted above.
YES, she certainly CAN be hungry...
The foods you have described are almost all 'empty carbs' which cause a dangerous spike in blood sugar, followed by low blood sugar and more 'hunger.
When the body is not being fed the proteins and nutrients and fiber that it needs, it will be hungry.

Sadly, what many us us in this culture have experienced, or even think is normal and healthy, is just not healthy. And should not be 'normal.

Also, processed 'sliim jims' are not only empty in nutrition, but are super high in salt, dangerous processed fats, and MONOSODIUM GLUTAMATE.
MSG is a toxin that gives many people instant migraines.

Now, I am a parent, and I know how hard it can be to get kids to eat right.
My son has done many breakfasts that are cereal and/or high carb.
But, I have never, ever, had a box of pop-tarts in this house. And, breakfast cereals are not 'Sugar Pops with Marshmallows'.
 
I would cut back on the carbs at breakfast because they aren't nutrionally dense and don't stick with you. A better option would be a fruit, nut and yogurt parfait or a hard boiled egg and some fruit. You can make them in advance if time is an issue.

I would make it about making the entire family healthier then about her weight. That means everyone makes the changes such as not eating pop tarts.
 
The processed foods from five years ago are a totally different monster than the processed foods we had ten years ago; and definitely a MASSIVE change from the processed foods of the 60's-80's. What with non-GMO, different additives, different flavorings, dyes and colors, preservatives, etc... It just keeps getting worse and worse. The calorie count of what an average American ate in a daily allowance only 50 years ago is shocking. Your great-grandparents didn't survive starvation in the Great Depression by guzzling Tang by the liter, they ate REAL LARD. ;) No fun when you don't like the collard greens let alone the lard in them. But it was real food, compared to say, today's Lean Cuisine in a frozen freezer case.

I figure a Jiffy Muffin Mix dug out from the back of Grandma's Pantry (with an expiration date in 1964!) is probably MORE nutritious and healthy than a Whole Foods Organic Muffin Mix pumped off the factory line last week. We just have too much population to equitably provide full shelves at Walmart and cases of frozen patties at fastfood places, too much shrinkage and loss in the food manufacturing, and the inability to distribute and re-distribute products in a timely manner, to be able to provide, "Nutritious Food From a Box". Plus all the marketing buzzwords! Everyone's green, organic, healthy, natural, complete and holistic. It's a carrot, people! It had better be...
 
For what it's worth, that diet would have my son falling apart. Not saying your daughter has similar issues, it's just that what you described as her typical breakfast really jumped out at me.

It's nothing but carbs (sugar and processed flour) in the morning. Which is exactly the kind of thing that kicks off my son's blood sugar issues and makes him ravenous all day as his pancreas sends him on the worst roller coaster ride you can imagine.

A good start to my son's day would be something like an omelet made with 1 egg, a small handful of any kind of meat (usually leftover from last night's dinner), and grated cheese. Plus, one piece of fruit. Snack would be a cheese stick and an apple. Lunch would be a whole grain ham sandwich, and some veggies with hummus. Second snack is a hardboiled egg. Dinner is a small (pack of playing card sized) piece of meat and as many steamed or roasted veggies as he wants. And garden salad with light dressing. Right before bed, he'd have a small glass of milk, or a yogurt cup. That was more than adequate when he was nine, and when we started feeding him like that he stopped being hungry all the time.

Also, as someone prone to migraines, slim jims can actually be a trigger. They're very high in sodium. Something like hummus or a cheese stick works much better for me.

Good luck figuring all this out! :hug:

That is why every kid is different. My kids don't have issues with sugar thankfully! Muffins are the ones I make from scratch-either pumpkin, zucchini or blueberry. Pop tarts are not daily. Cereal varies between sugary stuff and non sugary. A variety is important I think. I don't have time to make omlets in the am, plus I have made one with cheese and she despises it...yet she loves cheese! So no cheese sticks are allowed in my house-theyet even with in a day or two. School snacks are cut up ones and need to be quick so while 2 choices is great it's not ideal so it's just fruit-cut up apple, frozen grapes, oranges (2 clementines), banana. On occasion a yogurt. But again a variety because the same thing gets boring. I won't do eggs for a snack, she would kill me if I took out the yolk! An eggs more a meal in my house.

I think she is more bored then hungry.

As far as my son, we give him the slim jims before he gets a headache. Like if we are out an about and he hasn't eaten in a few hours "eat a slim Jim" and it prevents them from coming. He won't eat hummus, I am not a huge fan either, I only like one kind and he can't have cheese sticks as he is allergic to dairy, peanuts, tree nuts and egg whites...although he is slowly outgrowing and can have the expensive nuts-pistachios, almonds and cashews and can now eat cooked cheese but can't have a slice of cheese, milk, dairy ice cream...

Thanks...
 
While you don't think your kids have an issue with sugar. They probably do. Try using one of the diet trackers, there are tons out there. Enter your daughter's diet for a few days. Keep a special eye on carbs and sugar, and you'll be shocked, it really is eye opening. For example, most kids should only have 25g of sugar per day or less. Two pop tarts (a serving is only one, but hey, who only eats one) has a shocking 32 grams of sugar! Your already way over what your child should have for the day, and it hasn't even really started yet! Check out those sugary cereals. A serving of 3/4 a cup or 1 cup probably has 12-15 g of sugar, but if your child eats a big bowl, or more, you are looking at your daily quota again before the day gets started.

Like I said, we've really started looking into sugar because of my husband's diet and it is shocking how much sugar is in everything. Even ketchup, 1 tbsp is 4 grams of sugar! Most kids probably consume 2-3 "servings" in a meal, that is half your sugar for the day!

Eating too much sugar makes you crave more sugar and get hungrier faster. Try to fill up on protein and fiber instead! Trust me, her health (not just her waistline) will thank you.
 
That is why every kid is different. My kids don't have issues with sugar thankfully! Muffins are the ones I make from scratch-either pumpkin, zucchini or blueberry. Pop tarts are not daily. Cereal varies between sugary stuff and non sugary. A variety is important I think. I don't have time to make omlets in the am, plus I have made one with cheese and she despises it...yet she loves cheese! So no cheese sticks are allowed in my house-theyet even with in a day or two. School snacks are cut up ones and need to be quick so while 2 choices is great it's not ideal so it's just fruit-cut up apple, frozen grapes, oranges (2 clementines), banana. On occasion a yogurt. But again a variety because the same thing gets boring. I won't do eggs for a snack, she would kill me if I took out the yolk! An eggs more a meal in my house.

I think she is more bored then hungry.

As far as my son, we give him the slim jims before he gets a headache. Like if we are out an about and he hasn't eaten in a few hours "eat a slim Jim" and it prevents them from coming. He won't eat hummus, I am not a huge fan either, I only like one kind and he can't have cheese sticks as he is allergic to dairy, peanuts, tree nuts and egg whites...although he is slowly outgrowing and can have the expensive nuts-pistachios, almonds and cashews and can now eat cooked cheese but can't have a slice of cheese, milk, dairy ice cream...

Thanks...

If she is eating because she is bored, find things that get her moving and not bored anymore. You have to replace a bad habit with a good one.

I don't like omelettes either, so don't feel bad. You just have to find what works for YOUR kids. I would try to find something that they will eat that gives them protein and is healthy. Even peanut butter toast is good. Or half a peanut butter sandwich if no time to make toast. The muffins sound good, just add something else to give her some protein (maybe even something you can add to your muffin recipe).

You are right, variety is important and if you suddenly cut out all sugary cereals, you may find them not eating it at all.
 
There's nothing wrong with egg yolks or whole milk. There is plenty wrong with slim jims. Why aren't cheese sticks allowed in the house?

In your list of foods that your daughter eats, I didn't see any protein (except for 2 meatballs) or vegetables. There seems to be an awful lot of carbs, which will make her feel hungry all the time because they are metabolized into blood sugar too fast.
 

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