News Round Up 2016

DDLand said:
This is actually really really good news. Like really good. This means they're actually committed to real enhancements. This is seeming to be something along the lines of the excellent Pirates of the Caribbean Refurb of last year.

This also gives me hope for the yeti.
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That's all we can do is hope.
 
DDLand said:
This is actually really really good news. Like really good. This means they're actually committed to real enhancements. This is seeming to be something along the lines of the excellent Pirates of the Caribbean Refurb of last year.

This also gives me hope for the yeti.
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Not to be a pooper -but that is probably not at all what it means. Unfortunately, more likely what it means is Disney decided to save some money by not operating the ride for another month at a slow time of year. Notice it is now re-opening right before Thanksgiving. While I am with you on hoping they are fixing up the ride properly, adding another month does not really give them the time to do this.

The yeti isn't going to be touched until Avatar is opened and the initial surge of crowds are through - so at least 2019.
 
rteetz said:
People complain when attractions are in bad shape and then they complain when they are down for fixing. Disney can't win.
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Should i say it?

...oh...why not?...
It's price that's being paid for the cumulative awful management in Florida from 2001-2015...

Disney shouldn't "win" this one...if you're fair.

But hey - they now think people want to buy more tickets inside the park...so there's that ;)
 
skier_pete said:
Not to be a pooper -but that is probably not at all what it means. Unfortunately, more likely what it means is Disney decided to save some money by not operating the ride for another month at a slow time of year. Notice it is now re-opening right before Thanksgiving. While I am with you on hoping they are fixing up the ride properly, adding another month does not really give them the time to do this.

The yeti isn't going to be touched until Avatar is opened and the initial surge of crowds are through - so at least 2019.
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Exactly...and my hunch is the yeti will never be touched.

If it's such a violent machine that failed almost immediately...then why try to "bring it back?" Even if it can be solved - the longterm maintenance and operational cost has got to be massive.
 
lockedoutlogic said:
Exactly...and my hunch is the yeti will never be touched.

If it's such a violent machine that failed almost immediately...then why try to "bring it back?" Even if it can be solved - the longterm maintenance and operational cost has got to be massive.
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Then, you need to include all the additional maintenance required just from the thing setting there for years without working, ie, deteriorated hydraulic lines, seals, electronics, etc etc etc. Probably be cheaper in the long run just to build a new one.
 
lockedoutlogic said:
Exactly...and my hunch is the yeti will never be touched.

If it's such a violent machine that failed almost immediately...then why try to "bring it back?" Even if it can be solved - the longterm maintenance and operational cost has got to be massive.
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This is quite true - the ride is very popular without it...they may never choose to fix it at this point. But I think it is just as likely that they decide to at some point in the future.
 
rteetz said:
People complain when attractions are in bad shape and then they complain when they are down for fixing. Disney can't win.
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Yes they can - they can offer hugely discounted admission or free hoppers when they reduce their attraction level.
 
rteetz said:
Fixing the ride to opening day quality isn't an improvement? You want thing to stay broken? Don't assume when you don't know whats being done.
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No, it's not an improvement. It should be the norm expectation. I'm gonna sound all LOL on this, but Disney has never priced itself to be Six Flags - it always aimed higher (in both prices and product delivery). Part of that aim was the standard expectation that rides looked good and worked well all the time. So, getting a ride back to opening day shape is not am improvement, it's a priced-in expectation. Being late on schedule to do it sounds like more money-saving to not have it open in slow times.
 
rteetz said:
People complain when attractions are in bad shape and then they complain when they are down for fixing. Disney can't win.
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To be fair, they can just not let things get into bad shape. Of course wear and tear is inevitable but if you fix things when you should instead of fixing things when you need to...that could help. Proactive action can go a long, long, way...instead of letting the cobwebs settle.

SureAsLiz said:
ha
ask anyone at the company about anything, and they will probably give you that answer. It's what happens when a company has 180,000 employees

I just had this conversation with a friend, and my projects are much, much smaller than ROL
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You know what you call a horse created by a committee right? A camel.

Seriously though, it truly amazes me that ANYTHING gets done within big companies. I work for a company that has about 33,000 employees (a mom and pop shop compared to Disney). In my previous department I worked on creating forms to standardize requests that came into the department. The length of time spent on the most meaningless things having to do with that project was just astounding. No one wanted to come up/talk about ideas that would innovate the process...all they cared about arguing with was grammatical nuances and the font. It truly was the perfect example of Parkinson's Law of Triviality.
 
TwoMisfits said:
Yes they can - they can offer hugely discounted admission or free hoppers when they reduce their attraction level.
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That's just opening a can of worms. One attraction being down for refurb shouldn't mean you get discounted admission. I could see maybe doing something when you have a major project going on like DHS but one refurb?
 
TwoMisfits said:
No, it's not an improvement. It should be the norm expectation. I'm gonna sound all LOL on this, but Disney has never priced itself to be Six Flags - it always aimed higher (in both prices and product delivery). Part of that aim was the standard expectation that rides looked good and worked well all the time. So, getting a ride back to opening day shape is not am improvement, it's a priced-in expectation. Being late on schedule to do it sounds like more money-saving to not have it open in slow times.
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If you want rides in good condition you're going to have to have refurbs at some point. Not all work can just be done at night. A ride that runs every is not going to stay in opening day condition for ever. That's just not possible.
 
rteetz said:
If you want rides in good condition you're going to have to have refurbs at some point. Not all work can just be done at night. A ride that runs every is not going to stay in opening day condition for ever. That's just not possible.
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Well, they could go back to the original operating model at Disneyland and close all the parks every Monday and Tuesday ;)
 
TwoMisfits said:
Yes they can - they can offer hugely discounted admission or free hoppers when they reduce their attraction level.
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Sorry, but that is an absurd expectation. There are ALWAYS going to be attractions down for refurb at the various times of year - they can't discount tickets whenever a few rides are down for refurb. Plus unless people stop going to the parks, they have zero incentive to do something like that.
 
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