Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[OnceUponATime15]

Orange County California got approval to move to phase 2 of their opening scheme this afternoon. That should mean positive things for DLR for at least a partial reopening.

 

[Brianstl]

Disney isn’t going to make tons of money off hosting the NBA. The chances are they more likely will lose money on operating hotels and other items that go into hosting the NBA. Hosting the NBA is all about getting the NBA back on TV. The money in that is all in getting back the revenue the NBA generates in TV ad sales.

 

[rteetz]

Watching Yulillin’s stream from DS and she’s seeing about 90% compliance with masks and saw a CM stop a guest and make them put their mask on. Says most everyone is maintaining social distancing.

I think in the current state you can’t compare what DS is like to opening a park. You also can’t know what it’s going to be like when people travel down. We’ve seen the debates and the social media comments. Masks are a hot button issue. Disney doesn’t want to deal with that and I don’t blame them. I think they will watch closely to universals opening.

 

[yorkieteacher]

There is no one who loves Disney more than I do. We have gone every year since my youngest was two. He is now 18. He booked a trip as soon as 2020 opened up and is supposed to go June 28th. He has worked for two years including graduation money to pay for his dream trip. I do not have any issues with Disney doing what is best for their company as I want them to succeed and prosper but I am very upset about the lack of communication. Although I understand they may not be certain on when they are opening, I do believe they know more than three weeks in advance when they are not going opening. If the current plan is July 1st give those who are booked in June that information. Although I am frustrated with Disney more than that, I am disappointed because I feel like the place I love and am loyal to does not value their guests they way I though they did.

I am glad you expressed both your love for Disney and you irritation-I feel both these as well. We went in September and early March, and had a late June trip planned. Although we had planned on waiting, this is the week my son has my grandson for the entire week and we promised a nice vacation. We decided we would just cancel, go to some other Orlando parks we have always skipped because we "do Disney", and are going on our same dates to Legoland and Universal. Maybe SeaWorld if it opens. We have a fabulous resort with a water park for half of what our Disney resort costs, and Universal and Legoland tickets are a little cheaper too. Who knows, maybe we will love Disney less. But I doubt it. The break may be good for us, though, cause I really wanted to go to the Space 220 restaurant!

 

[Jrb1979]

Watching Yulillin’s stream from DS and she’s seeing about 90% compliance with masks and saw a CM stop a guest and make them put their mask on. Says most everyone is maintaining social distancing.

Maybe it's a good sign that they starting to enforce the rules.

 

[cakebaker]

I think in the current state you can’t compare what DS is like to opening a park. You also can’t know what it’s going to be like when people travel down. We’ve seen the debates and the social media comments. Masks are a hot button issue. Disney doesn’t want to deal with that and I don’t blame them. I think they will watch closely to universals opening.

I wasn’t comparing. I was sharing what she was seeing. There had been complaints that there wasn’t compliance or enforcement at DS, so found her take interesting. She also saw them turn a group away at the entrance because they didn’t have masks.

 

[LSUmiss]

That’s all well and good, but they need to make a statement to that effect. Up until now, Disney has been cancelling reservations week by week which gives the impression that they are close to opening. If not, why not just cancel a month at a time and quit stringing people along?
If the NBA comes on property and Disney pushes their opening way back, it will look like Disney is pushing the guests out of the way to cater to the NBA. I doubt most people who had vacations scheduled this summer would be willing to give them up so that the NBA could finish their season.

And continuing to take ppl’s money especially for things that are supposedly nonrefundable like tickets.

 

[rteetz]

And continuing to take ppl’s money especially for things that are supposedly nonrefundable like tickets.

Not to play the Disney defender card but ticket don’t ever lose value. Yes you may have to pay more to use them in the future but it’s not like if you have an unused ticket with $400 you have to pay another $420 to buy a new one. You would just pay $20.

 

[LSUmiss]

Not to play the Disney defender card but ticket don’t ever lose value. Yes you may have to pay more to use them in the future but it’s not like if you have an unused ticket with $400 you have to pay another $420 to buy a new one. You would just pay $20.

But especially in a situation when many ppl are concerned about finances, it’s not right to tie up ppl’s money on something you don’t have any intention of allowing them to use on the days you said they could when they bought them.

 

[Mit88]

Disney can say they care about guest safety all they want, but at the end of the day, theyre in it for the money. The proof is in the pudding when they allowed the parks to remain open at full capacity 4 extra days when they could have shut down the parks the night of the announcement, and let the resorts stay open until everyone had their travel arrangements. But they didnt do that. Its hard to believe they suddenly care enough that they wont open their parks because not everyone will wear masks while Universal had to listen to public comments being read during the task force meeting about guests not coming to the parks and wearing masks and they still revealed their plans to reopen. Different companies, yes. But both love money equally.

And how you’ll know it to be true that their concern about safety is a load of garbage is IF Vegas swoops in at the last second to bring the NBA there, or if they start airing the NBA games, get big viewship the first couple of days and then people stop caring because the NBA is not the same without the crowd. Then all of a sudden they’ll change their tune and pretend that they care about the guests and say the parks are opening

Edited: because apparently the use of if was ignored

 

[rteetz]

Disney can say they care about guest safety all they want, but at the end of the day, theyre in it for the money. The proof is in the pudding when they allowed the parks to remain open at full capacity 4 extra days when they could have shut down the parks the night of the announcement, and let the resorts stay open until everyone had their travel arrangements. But they didnt do that. Its hard to believe they suddenly care enough that they wont open their parks because not everyone will wear masks while Universal had to listen to public comments being read during the task force meeting about guests not coming to the parks and wearing masks and they still revealed their plans to reopen. Different companies, yes. But both love money equally.

And how you’ll know it to be true that their concern about safety is a load of garbage is if Vegas swoops in at the last second to bring the NBA there, or if they start airing the NBA games, get big viewship the first couple of days and then people stop caring because the NBA is not the same without the crowd. Then all of a sudden they’ll change their tune and pretend that they care about the guests and say the parks are opening

I think Disney has a much better chance than Vegas. The relationship between Disney and the NBA is quite strong. Iger I’m sure is involved in the talks. He didn’t come to the opening of NBA Experience for nothing...

 

[cakebaker]

Disney can say they care about guest safety all they want, but at the end of the day, theyre in it for the money

Of all the things I don’t buy about the rumors, the idea that they want to put off opening due to lack of compliance and health issues is the one I think is pure bunk- no insult to those sharing the info intended. If they host the NBA and keep the parks closed past July, they did it for 1 reason. They could make more $$$ off the NBA than their guests.

 

[Jroceagles]

I think Disney has a much better chance than Vegas. The relationship between Disney and the NBA is quite strong. Iger I’m sure is involved in the talks. He didn’t come to the opening of NBA Experience for nothing...

So do you believe if NBA comes...guests do not?

And how can they possibly spin that with every other park open and running?

 

[Cdn Jeff]

Disney isn’t going to make tons of money off hosting the NBA. They chances are they more likely will lose money on operating hotels and other items that go into hosting the NBA. Hosting the NBA is all about getting the NBA back on TV. The money in that is all in getting back the revenue the NBA generates in TV ad sales.

Disagree! The pent up demand for pro sports is HUGE! ESPN will make a killing on advertising and licensing agreements. Owning the NBA playoffs would be worth mega-millions on a regular day. In the current environment, that’s a heck of a cash cow!

 

[Jrb1979]

Disney can say they care about guest safety all they want, but at the end of the day, theyre in it for the money. The proof is in the pudding when they allowed the parks to remain open at full capacity 4 extra days when they could have shut down the parks the night of the announcement, and let the resorts stay open until everyone had their travel arrangements. But they didnt do that. Its hard to believe they suddenly care enough that they wont open their parks because not everyone will wear masks while Universal had to listen to public comments being read during the task force meeting about guests not coming to the parks and wearing masks and they still revealed their plans to reopen. Different companies, yes. But both love money equally.

And how you’ll know it to be true that their concern about safety is a load of garbage is if Vegas swoops in at the last second to bring the NBA there, or if they start airing the NBA games, get big viewship the first couple of days and then people stop caring because the NBA is not the same without the crowd. Then all of a sudden they’ll change their tune and pretend that they care about the guests and say the parks are opening

I think people will tune in regardless. Sports will be the only new thing on TV for awhile. A lot of people still aren't ready to go to a theme park.

 

[e_yerger]

Of all the things I don’t buy about the rumors, the idea that they want to put off opening due to lack of compliance and health issues is the one I think is pure bunk. If they host the NBA and keep the parks closed past July, they did it for 1 reason. They could make more $$$ off the NBA than their guests.

Totally agree. But just to note, we don’t know if parks/resorts opening to guests & the NBA agreement are mutually exclusive.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

Of all the things I don’t buy about the rumors, the idea that they want to put off opening due to lack of compliance and health issues is the one I think is pure bunk. If they host the NBA and keep the parks closed past July, they did it for 1 reason. They could make more $$$ off the NBA than their guests.

But like plenty have said, they don’t need to choose between NBA and guests in terms of which path makes them most money. Both should be able to happen side by side. They could make most money that way, if money was the only determining factor.

If they are opening to NBA and not guests, I think it will be because they did not want to open to guests yet period.

 

[rteetz]

So do you believe if NBA comes...guests do not?

And how can they possibly spin that with every other park open and running?

I don’t think the NBA coming means no guests until they are done. If that was the case they wouldn’t have opened Springs.

Disney can spin it any way they want. Disney also isn’t equal to every other park.

 

[Jrb1979]

Totally agree. But just to note, we don’t know if parks/resorts opening to guests & the NBA agreement are mutually exclusive.

Having the NBA has nothing to do with parks opening. The NBA is being used to bring in money til they decide when they are opening.

 

[e_yerger]

I think we’re getting the no guests because of the WDWpro rumor about Aug 31st