Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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It’s possible that POP is open for the August date mentioned but is at the max occupancy allowed with COVID-19 restrictions which would necessitate moving some reservations to other resorts. POP was the big recipient of guests who’ve already been moved from other resorts.. they likely overbooked POP in the moving frenzy of a week ago. 🤷🏻‍♀️
Speaking of covid restrictions, can they not book every room there?
 
I can appreciate the cost aspect and I think your posts are always helpful and informative. I have to disagree a little bit. Perhaps WDW could facilitate the tests in some fashion? Shouldn’t they at least require a test for returning workers? Especially given the rising infection rate in FLA? I guess I just assumed WDW would be doing something to ensure safety in this area. My bad I guess.
You are spot on with your comparison to the effort NBA is making to test its people. Also NBA has expressed concern that workers in their area will not be staying in the bubble. Can’t imagine they will be happy those CMS are untested. Or mayNBA is testing them?
NBA is testing it's players, at NBA's cost-not Disney's. The players are represented by NBA with contracts to play, and those players make the NBA countless monies, hence NBA salaries. Also, the NBA doesn't employ 73,000 employees like Disney does. The cost of testing CMs constantly would put Disney out of business like yesterday.

And remember a test is only good the moment you get it, and it doesn't mean you won't get the virus 5 minutes after your test from someone.
 
Not necessarily true everywhere in Florida. Many testing sites (like those at CVS) still require you to complete a questionnaire, and if you’re not exhibiting symptoms, they won’t let you get a test. As for the “walk-up” testing, you don’t need symptoms for those but at least the ones where I’m at have very limited hours (M, W, F 8am-noon). If you’re like me and are working M-F 8-4 (even from home), you’re out of luck or have to drive a long way away to get access to the test. Also important to remember that some CMs come in from as far as Melbourne/Titusville area, so testing varies significantly by county and area.

And before anyone says “this isn’t true,” that was my experience and I’m not the only one. It really disadvantages people who work outside of 9-5 M-F hours in particular (I.e. most CMs). I’ve heard from a number of CMs who are unable to get a test that works with their schedule. As Tom pointed out, there are many CMs who are over the moon to be there, but there are also quite a few who are still newer to the area, younger, and concerned. As Disney fans, we may only want to consider the first group but we should consider both and so should Disney.

This is what I was reading about, also.

My daughter said at Tampa a friend arrived at the testing site an hour before they opened the doors. There were about 40 people in front of her. An hour later, they were all out of tests.

It's not going to be easy for CMs to get tested.
 
Is everyone able to get a test (that wants one) in FL? I just tried to register for one (I am in NY) and it said I didn't qualify for a test so couldn't get one

Depends where you are. Our hospitals (SE FL) are still only doing tests for symptomatic/confirmed exposure people only. Smaller testing sites are doing tests for those that are not symptomatic though and it costs ~$200.
 
I can appreciate the cost aspect and I think your posts are always helpful and informative. I have to disagree a little bit. Perhaps WDW could facilitate the tests in some fashion? Shouldn’t they at least require a test for returning workers? Especially given the rising infection rate in FLA? I guess I just assumed WDW would be doing something to ensure safety in this area. My bad I guess.
You are spot on with your comparison to the effort NBA is making to test its people. Also NBA has expressed concern that workers in their area will not be staying in the bubble. Can’t imagine they will be happy those CMS are untested. Or mayNBA is testing them?
What would the point of testing at resuming work be? If someone tests negative the day they return to work there is nothing stopping them from then contracting the virus a day or two later. You would need rapid testing, daily, and even then you'd still miss cases due to the incubation period. In an ideal world every work place and school would be able to test daily but there is no way we have the materials or infrastructure currently to make that work.
 
It’s not about the cost of the testing; it’s about the cost of implementing the testing, which does have a not insignificant cost, even more so when compounded with the large losses they’ve just experienced. Disney would have to pay for those administering the test, certain facilities, certain supplies, etc... It’s easier to just tell the CMs to go try to do it (worth noting that when I was a CM, I often had a hard time going in for routine appointments because your schedule is so far from normal business hours and fluid, so I’d often you’d just to have use an off day for any of those types of appointments).

I think them reopening without providing some sort of initial testing for CMs contrasted with the frequent testing for NBA players could result in some bad publicity if the story gets picked up. Disney is banking on it not.
What I was referring to was to was everyone has the ability to get a test. I don’t think that falls on Disney. Most employers don’t provide test because the employees can go and get them free. Sometimes I think Disney gets “nit picked to death”.
 
I can appreciate the cost aspect and I think your posts are always helpful and informative. I have to disagree a little bit. Perhaps WDW could facilitate the tests in some fashion? Shouldn’t they at least require a test for returning workers? Especially given the rising infection rate in FLA? I guess I just assumed WDW would be doing something to ensure safety in this area. My bad I guess.
You are spot on with your comparison to the effort NBA is making to test its people. Also NBA has expressed concern that workers in their area will not be staying in the bubble. Can’t imagine they will be happy those CMS are untested. Or mayNBA is testing them?
I agree; there's certainly more they could do to at least establish a baseline. I'm not saying they have to set up testing sites around WDW and test all CMs themselves. All you have to do is say you will not be permitted to work after [DATE] if you cannot provide a negative test result from within the last seven days. If a CM cannot get a test during that period because of their schedule, they alert management, they call out/call late one day to get a test (and receive an attendance point), and if they turn in a test result (positive or negative) within 5 days of the call-out, that point disappears. They do this will other stuff, so why they can't do this here, I don't know.
 
I agree; there's certainly more they could do to at least establish a baseline. I'm not saying they have to set up testing sites around WDW and test all CMs themselves. All you have to do is say you will not be permitted to work after [DATE] if you cannot provide a negative test result from within the last seven days. If a CM cannot get a test during that period because of their schedule, they alert management, they call out/call late one day to get a test (and receive an attendance point), and if they turn in a test result (positive or negative) within 5 days of the call-out, that point disappears. They do this will other stuff, so why they can't do this here, I don't know.
Sounds great to me. Nicely done. Thank you!
 
What would the point of testing at resuming work be? If someone tests negative the day they return to work there is nothing stopping them from then contracting the virus a day or two later. You would need rapid testing, daily, and even then you'd still miss cases due to the incubation period. In an ideal world every work place and school would be able to test daily but there is no way we have the materials or infrastructure currently to make that work.
Andy man just posted a great scenario for how it could be handled. I understand that it would be difficult, and less than fool proof. But I would at least they should establish that the initial work force is covid free. And unlike schools or workplaces attendance by guests at WDW is voluntary. And they pay a lot to be there.
 
What would the point of testing at resuming work be? If someone tests negative the day they return to work there is nothing stopping them from then contracting the virus a day or two later. You would need rapid testing, daily, and even then you'd still miss cases due to the incubation period. In an ideal world every work place and school would be able to test daily but there is no way we have the materials or infrastructure currently to make that work.
It's about establishing a baseline. Nothing anyone (WDW or elsewhere) does is going to eradicate the risk. This isn't about eradicating risk; this is about minimizing it in every reasonable way.
What I was referring to was to was everyone has the ability to get a test. I don’t think that falls on Disney. Most employers don’t provide test because the employees can go and get them free. Sometimes I think Disney gets “nit picked to death”.
Sometimes I think Disney gets unfair press and attention, I agree. But in this case, they're in a different situation than some employers. They're putting their employees in high-contact roles facing thousands of different people everyday). That's different than any desk job, manufacturing plant, or even restaurant (which wouldn't see the same traffic or proximity that most CMs would see). Disney also has more resources than many other places.
 
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What I was referring to was to was everyone has the ability to get a test. I don’t think that falls on Disney. Most employers don’t provide test because the employees can go and get them free. Sometimes I think Disney gets “nit picked to death”.
I don’t think it’s “nitpicking” to Hold them to a standard In line with the rates they charge to go there.
And don’t tell me I dont have to go. I’m well aware.
 
If anyone needs a test I have used the Lapcorp AT HOME test and the process is EASY AND FAST. From the time you order one online (THEY ARE FREE) and they deliver the test and you take the test and send it back and get your results is 48-72 hours. Everything is done overnight and they send you the return overnight label also. They are NOT however available in every state, most states though.

They are FDA approved also

https://www.pixel.labcorp.com/covid-19
 
I don’t think it’s “nitpicking” to Hold them to a standard In line with the rates they charge to go there.
And don’t tell me I dont have to go. I’m well aware.
I don’t know why you would assume I would tell you not to go, never crossed my mind. I respect different opinions. Disney has made many mistakes through this process, but I have to give them credit for all the efforts they are putting forth in the park safety. It is impossible to please 100% of the the people 100% of the time.
 
I am going to see where Disney moves me out of curiosity, but with the new MA travel restrictions, it looks like this is going to be a cancel for me anyway.
It will be interesting to see what Disney does as more and more states take this approach. With seemingly the whole of New England begining to require it's residents to quarantine on their way back from Florida, will the mass of cancellations that follow make it less desirable for Disney to open? At what point does it become fiscally and ethically irresponsible to do so?
 
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